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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post


Nobody wanted to buy Japanese watches either.


 

Leave that shit for the poor man's watch thread.

post #797 of 1314
Ukranian journalist killed by car bomb
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-journalist-idUSKCN1000J3
post #798 of 1314
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

War is hell. A lot of civilians died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not many Kamikaze pilots around these days. If we're going to avoid conflicts that result in loss of civilian life, we might as well just admit we're never going to defeat radical Islam.

We're never going to defeat radical islam at least not in our lifetimes, defeating isis will demand civilian casualties though. But I'd argue it is a thing that needs to be done.

Secondly comparison with Japan are off. Equivalent would be bombing to oblivion or nuking of every ISIS held city. There are grounds to argue dropping the bomb was a display of power aimed at USSR and Japan was going to concede anyway in matter of few weeks at most. They were trying to surrender for months.

It's not like all of military stood by this decision either

The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military point of view, in the defeat of Japan.
— Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet

The use of [the atomic bombs] at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons ... The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.
— Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman, 1950

The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.
— Major General Curtis LeMay, XXI Bomber Command, September 1945

The first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment ... It was a mistake to ever drop it ... [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it ...
— Fleet Admiral William Halsey, Jr., 1964
Edited by wojt - 7/21/16 at 4:52am
post #799 of 1314
Have there been any ISIS attacks in Russia?
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on occasion they claim responsibility for attacks on police in Dagestan region
post #801 of 1314
Thread Starter 
As I've been saying here for years, and getting laughed at by some, this is not a nation-state we're fighting and so comparing this to Japan is specious.
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can someone tell me how ideologies are defeated anyway?
post #803 of 1314
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

can someone tell me how ideologies are defeated anyway?

Whisky and casual sex.
post #804 of 1314
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Have there been any ISIS attacks in Russia?

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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

on occasion they claim responsibility for attacks on police in Dagestan region

Thanks. I don't think I have heard of those, although it might be because there is already unrest there and maybe people think that it has nothing to do with ISIS and it is like ISIS claiming credit for the shooting of police officers in Dallas. Or maybe it is just that they are un-spectacular.
post #805 of 1314
Debt.

I think that capitalism and it's debt is the tool needed to "convert" a ideology. Nothing stops a guy from protesting in the streets like the wife telling him it's time for work. Of course this takes proper government, a decent economy and the infrastructure to accommodate such employees. How does one convert a dictatorship into the western world, I guess time and collective want.
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I'm actually pretty convinced it's getting a material part of your population unrepressed enough to have mutual (rape doesn't count, of women or little boys) consent casual sex, recreational substances, and secular education. Controlling the sex urge, proscribing mind altering substances, and keeping religion at least mainly in control of education is probably the easiest way to control a population.
post #807 of 1314
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Originally Posted by A Canuker View Post

Debt.

I think that capitalism and it's debt is the tool needed to "convert" a ideology. Nothing stops a guy from protesting in the streets like the wife telling him it's time for work. Of course this takes proper government, a decent economy and the infrastructure to accommodate such employees. How does one convert a dictatorship into the western world, I guess time and collective want.


We can't. We just need to step back and let them chop each other's heads off in peace. In a few decades they'll calm down and start buying iPhone 12s.
post #808 of 1314
Thread Starter 
Nice killer did not act alone: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36859312
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The four men and one woman aged between 22 and 40 are due to appear in court shortly.
They include an Albanian couple suspected of providing Lahouaiej-Bouhlel with a pistol.
Another of the suspects is a 22-year-old man believed to have received text messages from Lahouaiej-Bouhlel on the night of the attack, discussing the supply of weapons.
Police found a Kalashnikov rifle and ammunition at the man's home, AFP news agency reports.
Like Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, none of those detained were known to French intelligence prior to the attack.
Mr Molins said information from Lahouaiej-Bouhlel's phone showed searches and photos that indicated he had been studying an attack since 2015.
post #809 of 1314
Wonder how many weapons went through that guys hands?
post #810 of 1314
BBC is reporting shots fired at a Munich shopping center...
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