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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Tragedy-Politicizing chart : beginning within 2 seconds of the event

* gun nuts will sarcastically blame trucks
* Muslims will ask why so much 24/7 coverage vs attacks in turkey/bangladesh/etc
* CNN/etc will have incessant and ridiculous coverage with no update but filled with speculation and opinionated drivel
* hardcore righties (suited/kai on SF, Trump in US, Le Pen in France, etc) will say "told you so! Ban the savages!"
* Obama will ask for peace and unity as he continues droning
* The French will complain (about immigration) then go back to being French (and complaining about everything)
* psychos/drunkards (Harvey birdman) will victim-blame
* Sam Harris will blabber about ideology while Asra Noumani/Ayan Ali/etc will sign new book deals and TV appearances
* Muslims will be pressured to apologize/condemn and then given no notice when they do
* Isis will praise the attacks (whether it was involved or not) as it is now losing land and resorting to greater efforts to attack abroad
* more brown people will get beaten/abused
* the next big event will take over the news cycle and everyone not directly affected will move on

Sad state of affairs. Did I miss anything else?

You forgot blaming Merkel for having started it all.


There is a very logical reason behind the bolded part. The developed world has almost no economic interest in countries like Bangladesh, so it's not of interest to them. Also its muslims killing people in an islamic country, at this point in time it's sadly the norm. As these attacks continue the developed world will have less and less interest in them, as they have less and less economic interest in them, a bit like a Pakistani earthquake.

I spoke to someone the other day, who had just come back from a holiday in Egypt. At the 1000 room resort he and his family had stayed at only 20 rooms were occupied and each week 10ish rooms left and 10ish got occupied again. No one wants to go there due to the terror risk and therefore what is happening in the country is becoming less interesting.

As long as things like this happens and we let hate preachers roam freely spreading hate and radicalizing idiots nothing will change.
Edited by Find Finn - 7/15/16 at 1:22am
post #632 of 1314
The media is now saying he drove 1.8km zig-zagging through the crowd while shooting. I think the numbers are going to rise a lot.
post #633 of 1314
What a bunch of assholes.
post #634 of 1314
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Tragedy-Politicizing chart : beginning within 2 seconds of the event

* gun nuts will sarcastically blame trucks
* Muslims will ask why so much 24/7 coverage vs attacks in turkey/bangladesh/etc
* CNN/etc will have incessant and ridiculous coverage with no update but filled with speculation and opinionated drivel
* hardcore righties (suited/kai on SF, Trump in US, Le Pen in France, etc) will say "told you so! Ban the savages!"
* Obama will ask for peace and unity as he continues droning
* The French will complain (about immigration) then go back to being French (and complaining about everything)
* psychos/drunkards (Harvey birdman) will victim-blame
* Sam Harris will blabber about ideology while Asra Noumani/Ayan Ali/etc will sign new book deals and TV appearances
* Muslims will be pressured to apologize/condemn and then given no notice when they do
* Isis will praise the attacks (whether it was involved or not) as it is now losing land and resorting to greater efforts to attack abroad
* more brown people will get beaten/abused
* the next big event will take over the news cycle and everyone not directly affected will move on

Sad state of affairs. Did I miss anything else?

I shan't disappoint.

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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

Also its muslims killing people in an islamic country, at this point in time it's sadly the norm.

We expect attacks in countries populated with Islamic religious fanatics. We don't expect frequent attacks in places with evolved cultures. And yet we're forced to deal with them and throw our hands up as if we don't know what's changed over the last 60 years, and have to hear about them being "homegrown" problems. I remember that episode of Leave it to Beaver when Nidal Malik Hasan shouted Allah Akbar and opened fire. Islamic terrorism is as American as apple pie.

Apparently the number of Muslims in your country/Islamic terrorism are the only two positively correlated things in the universe that don't increase together. Democrats are the party of science!
post #635 of 1314
Watched the truck video. French police are pathetically ineffective. They recognised the impending attack and followed a slow moving truck while shooting sporadically at the driver and tires. Then he lost them behind when he pressed the gas. They had over 10 seconds (on the video) to approach and kill him, while he was driving at 10 miles/hour. He was also chased by some scooter or motorcyclists on the video.
post #636 of 1314
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Gingrich seems to be desperately trying to regain ground with Donald Trump amid reports that Indiana Gov. Mike Pence is likely to be his running mate.
 

 

Is it just me or with how impulsive Trump seems to be, I could see him getting up on stage to announce Pence, and then just deciding to announce Newt instead.

post #637 of 1314
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Is it just me or with how impulsive Trump seems to be, I could see him getting up on stage to announce Pence, and then just deciding to announce Newt instead.

Pence has to announce whether he's running for governor by today, so it'll be fun if Trump makes him wait and/or yanks the rug out from under him at the last minute.
post #638 of 1314
Thread Starter 
Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel of Franco-Tunisian or Tunisian origin.
post #639 of 1314
It's not victim blaming when we're the aggressor.
post #640 of 1314
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel of Franco-Tunisian or Tunisian origin.

"...was a bitter divorced delivery man with a violent criminal record — but no apparent ties to any religious extremist group.
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel — identified by French media as the 31-year-old Tunisian-born Frenchman shot dead by cops after the Thursday night massacre — was known to police for his lengthy criminal record.
The delivery man was previously convicted for armed robbery, domestic violence and making threats, and he was once arrested after he fell asleep while driving for work, according to France’s BFM-TV.
However, Bouhlel’s neighbors said the dad did not appear to be interested in religion, and was more into dating than prayer after his bitter divorce."

So, aside from his name, what qualifies him as a terrorist rather than plain run of the mill psycho ? This seems another case of a vague religious undertones but very much characterized by disenfranchisement and general anger of 1st/2nd/3rd/Nth gen immigrant lashing out at society for his own shortcomings due in large part to the inability (or lack of effort) to integrate into the adopted society. the arabs have a saying that basically says, "hey stranger -- better be well-behaved." seems really applicable when changing countries...
post #641 of 1314
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post


So, aside from his name, what qualifies him as a terrorist rather than plain run of the mill psycho ?

Cannot the latter also be the former?

Also, if we don't ascribe religion to this, 'Turk is going to attribute genetics to it.
post #642 of 1314
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Cannot the latter also be the former?

I would think that's always the case, terrorist = subset of psycho but with different ambitions (delusions of grandeur). see my additional comments i added. i'm just curious what qualifies this fellow as a terrorist if he has no association with any organization and seems to have acted out of some perceived sense of victimization/anger ? i guess it's really too early to speculate on motive but not early enough to conclusively label ?
post #643 of 1314
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

I would think that's always the case, terrorist = subset of psycho but with different ambitions (delusions of grandeur). see my additional comments i added. i'm just curious what qualifies this fellow as a terrorist if he has no association with any organization and seems to have acted out of some perceived sense of victimization/anger ? i guess it's really too early to speculate on motive but not early enough to conclusively label ?

Well, humans like labels. I'm sure it has to do with how our brains are wired.
post #644 of 1314
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

"...was a bitter divorced delivery man with a violent criminal record — but no apparent ties to any religious extremist group.
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel — identified by French media as the 31-year-old Tunisian-born Frenchman shot dead by cops after the Thursday night massacre — was known to police for his lengthy criminal record.
The delivery man was previously convicted for armed robbery, domestic violence and making threats, and he was once arrested after he fell asleep while driving for work, according to France’s BFM-TV.
However, Bouhlel’s neighbors said the dad did not appear to be interested in religion, and was more into dating than prayer after his bitter divorce."

So, aside from his name, what qualifies him as a terrorist rather than plain run of the mill psycho ? This seems another case of a vague religious undertones but very much characterized by disenfranchisement and general anger of 1st/2nd/3rd/Nth gen immigrant lashing out at society for his own shortcomings due in large part to the inability (or lack of effort) to integrate into the adopted society. the arabs have a saying that basically says, "hey stranger -- better be well-behaved." seems really applicable when changing countries...

The disenfranchised seem to identify with one group more than all the others. Erring on the side of caution is a great idea even when performing the most everyday mundane tasks like considering whether to put loctite on that screw, but somehow when it comes to the mass slaughter of innocent human life we can't err on the side of caution for fear of offending people or being accused of bigotry. Has anybody, here or in academia/media/news/politics been able to justify why western countries should continue to import this culture given the associated risks? The arguments boil down to "diversity is our strength" and we should never consider that maybe some kinds of diversity are bad.

Getting blown up at the airport and watching our culture decay are both worse than a more generalized approach to immigration that prevents some good people from getting in.
post #645 of 1314
speaking of diversity, i can at least credit you for changing some of your words and sentence structures when you copy/paste the same thing over and over.
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