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post #136 of 1314
we swam to america. when we got too tired to go on some muslim dolphins carried us on their backs
post #137 of 1314
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I drove to America. Interesting fact: there's no choice on the form for "drove."
post #138 of 1314
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I'm actually not in favor of some arbitrary limit to immigration.  Anyone who comes here gets screened for certain things (such as risk of being a terrorist), and if they pass the screening they come in as permanent residents.  Then after some period of time, they can apply for citizenship.  They take a test, and then are full citizens.  I would also reform welfare, so it only applies to citizens.

A good start. I would add a religious test and questions that predict alignment with American values (meaning "not future Democrats, freeloaders, or RINOs").
post #139 of 1314
i LOVE this game of "what would I do if I were in suddenly charge of America with no regard to laws or practicality or history or anything else, really!"

it's as fun as it is useful
post #140 of 1314
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i LOVE this game of "what would I do if I were in suddenly charge of America with no regard to laws or practicality or history or anything else, really!"

it's as fun as it is useful


The Constitution doesn't pose any problems. If there is a federal law prohibiting discrimination in immigration policy, then my policy would certainly be in the spirit of that law, given the tens of millions of "other," "brown people," non-Christians, and Democrats that have poured into the U.S. since 1965.
post #141 of 1314
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i LOVE this game of "what would I do if I were in suddenly charge of America with no regard to laws or practicality or history or anything else, really!"

it's as fun as it is useful

I would institute a guaranteed minimum income and a Bismarck style universal healthcare system. I would also outlaw the whole Occupy movement and all camo clothing.
post #142 of 1314
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no no no you're not playing the game right

you have to answer the question only while keeping to pennglock's assumptions: everyone believes in numerical quotas on immigration; there's a hierarchy of cultures whereby brown pakis are less accretive* to our culture than chinamen

* - i cringed typing this phrase. i know it's too much to ask pennglock to say something smart, but maybe he could work on making his prose a little less abject

Probably 95%+ of the US political spectrum would consider those 2 premises utterly uncontroversial.

Uncapped immigration and favoring paki neighbors over east asians are positions well outside of the mainstream.

Not that that's a problem. Extremism is mostly where the fun starts in online debates. But you do see the issues with pushing for policy prescriptions on the basis of assumptions that, to a rounding error, no one in this country shares?
post #143 of 1314
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(or a convenient brown spokesperson!)




This glibly dismisses someone that has been active for many years in seeking a peaceful Islam that is also more equal for women. Over a decade ago she was receiving death threats for daring to be a female that led an Islamic worship service. She's also won awards for her work in interfaith building.
post #144 of 1314
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Probably 95%+ of the US political spectrum would consider those 2 premises utterly uncontroversial.

yeah i'm probably 98%+ not even going to engage with your level of idiocy

but just one final fyi - "paki" is a slur. i used it to ventriloquize the stupidity of your position.
post #145 of 1314
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I would institute a guaranteed minimum income and a Bismarck style universal healthcare system. I would also outlaw the whole Occupy movement and all camo clothing.

 

Guaranteed minimum income is interesting because it would at least eliminate a lot of dead-weight loss in administering all the various programs.

 

Also, the screening process was too light for you.

post #146 of 1314
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html
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Killer Omar Mateen visited Pulse club a dozen times before shooting, witnesses say

At least four regular customers of Pulse, the nightclub where the massacre took place, said Monday that they believe they had seen Mateen there before.

"Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.

"We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times," Smith said. "He told us he had a wife and child."

It's looking clear that he hated gays so much because he was closeted.
post #147 of 1314
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html
It's looking clear that he hated gays so much because he was closeted.

Ironic, and this should be interesting,

Milo To Speak Tuesday At UCF Orlando About Gays And Islam

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/13/milo-speak-tuesday-ucf-orlando-gays-islam/
post #148 of 1314
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I agree with this and think this is a good spot to repost this:

video

At 9:37, Christian Broadcasting Network news? As much as she tries to play the "I am one of them so I can't be a bigot" card, the Islamophobia comes to the surface.

I watched the video until the bit about CAIR (the attempt to link it to terrorism is laughable); nothing she said relied on her "authority" as a "Sunni Muslim." It might as well all have come from CBN or another right wing Islamophobic source. A quick read through her Wikipedia page reveals who she is politically. She is, in fact, anti-Muslim on every issue involving Muslims. So why the emphasis on "I am a Sunni Muslim"? Because Islamophobia sells books and talk show expertise, especially when you're a "terrorism expert" who can throw a few Arabic words around or, better yet, a "Muslim" or "former Muslim."
post #149 of 1314
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http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_religions45.html

I know actually quoting Jefferson won't help at all because you'll believe in whatever Jefferson you want believe in. And, of course, whenever it suits you, you'll revert to some sloppy appeal to historical contextualization whereby Jefferson could never have foreseen these complex modern times we live in with the existential threat of large-scale mooslem immigration. But, in any case, there's a quotation for you to weasel around. Have fun.


Nice quote, but it has absolutely nothing to do with immigration policy. Are you actually arguing that this quote shows that Jefferson or any of the other Founding Fathers would be in favor of large scale muslim immigration to the U.S.?

Jefferson understood the dangers of Islam. In fact, Islamic aggression led Jefferson to overcome his heavy misgivings about military interventions and led him to go to war with the muslim principalities on the Barbary coast.
post #150 of 1314
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At 9:37, Christian Broadcasting Network news? As much as she tries to play the "I am one of them so I can't be a bigot" card, the Islamophobia comes to the surface.

LIGHTHOUSE NOTE: This is how it works. Muslims can't be prejudiced.

I watched the video until the bit about CAIR (the attempt to link it to terrorism is laughable); nothing she said relied on her "authority" as a "Sunni Muslim." It might as well all have come from CBN or another right wing Islamophobic source.


LIGHTHOUSE NOTE: The term Islamophobic implies an irrational fear of Islam. Let's just agree that its Islamorational or Islamoskeptical and call it a day.


A quick read through her Wikipedia page reveals who she is politically. She is, in fact, anti-Muslim on every issue involving Muslims. So why the emphasis on "I am a Sunni Muslim"? Because Islamophobia sells books and talk show expertise, especially when you're a "terrorism expert" who can throw a few Arabic words around or, better yet, a "Muslim" or "former Muslim."

LIGHTHOUSE NOTE: "Anti-Muslim on every issue involving Muslims" = anti-Israel, anti-GITMO, anti-immigration control = She is pro American.
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