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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37147717

It's really pretty horrible. They're saying about 50 dead and 70 wounded now with the suicide bomber being a 12-14 year old boy. What sort of fucking sociopaths do that?

 

Your link is misleading - Turkey isn't part of Europe.

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Your link is misleading - Turkey isn't part of Europe.


Antep in particular is definitely not part of Europe. 

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Turkey is sort of wierd in between, not fully european but not fully middleeastern either
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

Turkey is sort of wierd in between, not fully european but not fully middleeastern either


Fully European and fully Middle Eastern are meaningless things to say. There's no one Europe and there's no one Middle East.

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Fully European and fully Middle Eastern are meaningless things to say. There's no one Europe and there's no one Middle East.

 

Just ask the British.

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Fully European and fully Middle Eastern are meaningless things to say. There's no one Europe and there's no one Middle East.

Turkey isn't Europe /end.
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NATO dauwn count? tongue.gif
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Not to excuse anything but also take into account what the TSK has done to Cizre:

 

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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

Not to excuse anything but also take into account what the TSK has done to Cizre:



Isn't the PKK entirely justified in using violence in Turkey, considering the general situation. Very hard to blame them if they're using a "distasteful" strategy, outside of judging its effectiveness.
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Isn't the PKK entirely justified in using violence in Turkey, considering the general situation. Very hard to blame them if they're using a "distasteful" strategy, outside of judging its effectiveness.


I'm sympathetic to their cause. I think the blame for the revival of the armed conflict can be placed squarely on the government. They didn't have to respond to the murdering of a couple cops by destroying entire neighborhoods. That being said, Ocalan is still a crazy person and I think the PKK has done more to harm the Kurdish cause than to help.

 

I will be interested to see how the movement evolves over the next decade or so with Saleh Muslim and Demirtas at the helm.

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This falls under the acts of inhumanity portion of this thread but I wanted to share this quote from Max Fisher's recent article about the stalemate in Syria:

 

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Syria has seen repeated indiscriminate mass killings of civilians, on all sides. This is not driven just by malice, but by something more powerful: structural incentives.

Continue reading the main story
 
 

In most civil wars, the fighting forces depend on popular support to succeed. This “human terrain,” as counterinsurgency experts call it, provides all sides with an incentive to protect civilians and minimize atrocities, and has often proved decisive.

Wars like Syria’s, in which the government and opposition rely heavily on foreign support, encourage the precise opposite behavior, according to research by the political scientists Reed M. Wood of Arizona State University, Jacob D. Kathman of the State University of New York at Buffalo, and Stephen E. Gent of the University of North Carolina.

Because Syria’s combatants rely on foreign sponsors, rather than the local population, they have little incentive to protect civilians. In fact, this dynamic turns the local population into a potential threat rather than a necessary resource.

The incentives push them to “utilize collective violence and terror to shape the behaviors of the population,” the researchers found. The images we see of dead mothers and children may represent not helpless bystanders but deliberate targets, killed not out of madness or cruelty but out of coldly rational calculation.

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/world/middleeast/syria-civil-war-why-get-worse.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

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GERMANY STABBING Woman fighting for life after knifeman screaming ‘Allahu Akbar’ attacked couple at German music festival

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1686934/knifeman-shouts-allahu-akbar-as-he-attacks-couple-at-music-festival-leaving-wife-fighting-for-life/
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post #1080 of 1434
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Originally Posted by SirReveller View Post

Priority #1: Don't be islamophobic.

http://m.clarionproject.org/analysis/allahuakbarsyndrome-when-terror-attacks-have-no-motive

Oh please, once again, see my post about lone wolves and how many of them are using a thin veneer of "radicalism" as a way to go out in a blaze of pretend-glory. You also must know that police should have a greater burden to decide this was "Islamic terrorism" then some random moron on the internet, which is why they tend to wait.
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