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post #16 of 33
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Originally Posted by MTLinStyle View Post


Well it not only Kiton and Attolini have no fusing. I have many items by Caruso and Cornelliani that are fully canvased with zero fusing, and they are not in the same level when it comes to pricing even compared to SP

 

 

I think all those are around the same tag price:

 

SP retails 1500-1800 euros, same as Corneliani, Zegna, Caruso( that on the base lines also fuses) etc.

 

Corneliani CC ( the base line aprox 800e is fused)

 

What price do you get for SP?

post #17 of 33

Last time I checked (here in Norway), the various suits retail/start at:

 

Corneliani mainline: around 9500 NOK / 1200 USD / 1050 EUR

Canali: Same as Corneliani 

Caruso: 12000 NOK / 1500 USD / 1350 EUR

Zegna: 16000 NOK / 2000 USD / 1800 EUR

Isaia and Partenopea: 20000 NOK / 2500 USD / 2200 EUR

 

The price seems to reflect the difference in quality pretty well. But all the above suits are fully canvassed. Maybe one rare exception would be a totally unlined piece, where they'd only use a chest canvass...but I haven't seen them yet. 

 

Caruso has slightly more hand-work than Corneliani and Canali, and is on par with modern mainline Zegna. Both Isaia and Partenopea are one notch above mainline Zegna. 

 

It seems like Isaia is much cheaper over here, than in the states for examples. But then again, those are the base prices. The finer fabrics, the more expensive it gets... 

 

I'd say that Caruso would be the best bang for the buck brand you can get. I've owned a couple of Sartoria Parma suits that had just as much handwork as both SP and Isaia, but was also much cheaper. Similar cuts too.

post #18 of 33
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What is the difference if any between:

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serif vs. sans-serif   :rimshot:

 

 

as someone else said, I think it's just old label and new label. fwiw, I like Partenopea. To me it's the best of the Italian look. Nothing too exaggerated. The lines are clean but the feel is soft.

post #19 of 33
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Originally Posted by dreamspace View Post
 

Last time I checked (here in Norway), the various suits retail/start at:

 

Corneliani mainline: around 9500 NOK / 1200 USD / 1050 EUR

Canali: Same as Corneliani 

Caruso: 12000 NOK / 1500 USD / 1350 EUR

Zegna: 16000 NOK / 2000 USD / 1800 EUR

Isaia and Partenopea: 20000 NOK / 2500 USD / 2200 EUR

 

The price seems to reflect the difference in quality pretty well. But all the above suits are fully canvassed. Maybe one rare exception would be a totally unlined piece, where they'd only use a chest canvass...but I haven't seen them yet. 

 

Caruso has slightly more hand-work than Corneliani and Canali, and is on par with modern mainline Zegna. Both Isaia and Partenopea are one notch above mainline Zegna. 

 

It seems like Isaia is much cheaper over here, than in the states for examples. But then again, those are the base prices. The finer fabrics, the more expensive it gets... 

 

I'd say that Caruso would be the best bang for the buck brand you can get. I've owned a couple of Sartoria Parma suits that had just as much handwork as both SP and Isaia, but was also much cheaper. Similar cuts too.

 

 

Sartoria Parma from Caruso is the highest label, I got Caruso’s without a single handstitch, also got SP that are semi fused and got low handwork.  They seem to do a lot of lines and different prices. 

post #20 of 33

Corneliani mainline (not CC): around  1900-2300 CAD

Canali: Same as Corneliani 

Caruso: never seen it being sold in Canada

Zegna: $3000 - $4000 CAD 

Isaia  $3500 - $5000 CAD 

Partenopea: $3500 CAD (only saw once, and the store that used to carry SP now closed)

 

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Originally Posted by dreamspace View Post
 

Last time I checked (here in Norway), the various suits retail/start at:

 

Corneliani mainline: around 9500 NOK / 1200 USD / 1050 EUR

Canali: Same as Corneliani 

Caruso: 12000 NOK / 1500 USD / 1350 EUR

Zegna: 16000 NOK / 2000 USD / 1800 EUR

Isaia and Partenopea: 20000 NOK / 2500 USD / 2200 EUR

 

The price seems to reflect the difference in quality pretty well. But all the above suits are fully canvassed. Maybe one rare exception would be a totally unlined piece, where they'd only use a chest canvass...but I haven't seen them yet. 

 

Caruso has slightly more hand-work than Corneliani and Canali, and is on par with modern mainline Zegna. Both Isaia and Partenopea are one notch above mainline Zegna. 

 

It seems like Isaia is much cheaper over here, than in the states for examples. But then again, those are the base prices. The finer fabrics, the more expensive it gets... 

 

I'd say that Caruso would be the best bang for the buck brand you can get. I've owned a couple of Sartoria Parma suits that had just as much handwork as both SP and Isaia, but was also much cheaper. Similar cuts too.

post #21 of 33

not clear when people say SP is half-fused or semi-fused? everything i head read is SP new line jackets are all fully canvassed (not half canvased)... maybe full canvass can still have some fusing?

 

where can you tell this on a jacket? what is the effect of fusing vs. hand stitching ?

post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by SartodiNapoli View Post


I think all those are around the same tag price:

SP retails 1500-1800 euros, same as Corneliani, Zegna, Caruso( that on the base lines also fuses) etc.

Corneliani CC ( the base line aprox 800e is fused)

What price do you get for SP?

I have come across many Caruso and other brands made by Caruso...some are nicer than the others. But all full canvassed.

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Originally Posted by alpinewhite View Post

not clear when people say SP is half-fused or semi-fused? everything i head read is SP new line jackets are all fully canvassed (not half canvased)... maybe full canvass can still have some fusing?

where can you tell this on a jacket? what is the effect of fusing vs. hand stitching ?

Full canvassed means full floating canvass. A simple pinch test can reveal/confirm whether the jacket is full canvassed or fused.
post #23 of 33


So are SP all full canvassed?

 

Excuse my ignorance but what exactly am i looking for in a pinch test?

post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by alpinewhite View Post


So are SP all full canvassed?

Excuse my ignorance but what exactly am i looking for in a pinch test?

Here is how I do it: You lightly pinch the jacket fabric around the chest area. If the thickness of the fabric is the same as the fabric on the back of jacket, it is full floating canvassed construction. If it is thicker than the fabric on the back, it means there is a layer glued to the fabric (fused).

You do the same pinch test for the lapel. If the lapel is also fused, then it is fused. If the chest is fused, but the lapel is not, then I think it is called half-canvassed.
post #25 of 33
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Originally Posted by alpinewhite View Post
 


So are SP all full canvassed?

 

Excuse my ignorance but what exactly am i looking for in a pinch test?

no,i saw one SP half canvassed, though most are full

post #26 of 33

This is Sartoria Partenopea's logo.

 

Can someone explain to me what this is, or at least what is going on here?

 

post #27 of 33
Partenope is the ancient name for Naples. There is a legend of a siren that was buried where the city grew. The siren's name was parthenope.

That is presumably an image of the siren.
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post #28 of 33

Sartoria Partenopea is closed by bankrupt since last year.

 

I got the joy to cooperate doing shirts.

 

If ant got chance to get suits  or suits  on outlets my advise is to get them.

post #29 of 33
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Originally Posted by SartodiNapoli View Post
 

Sartoria Partenopea is closed by bankrupt since last year.

 

I got the joy to cooperate doing shirts.

 

If ant got chance to get suits  or suits  on outlets my advise is to get them.

 

Why did they go bankrupt?  Do you have any inside information?  Who is left to re-employ their tailors and seamstresses and designers?  Isaia? 

 

So the suits still available must be 2015 season latest?  or did they produce anything for 2016?

post #30 of 33
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Originally Posted by toscano_adottato View Post

Partenope is the ancient name for Naples. There is a legend of a siren that was buried where the city grew. The siren's name was parthenope.

That is presumably an image of the siren.

 

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Originally Posted by partenopean View Post
 

This is Sartoria Partenopea's logo.

 

Can someone explain to me what this is, or at least what is going on here?

 

 

 

Am I the only one, or are you gentlemen simply being terribly polite?  :)
There seems to me a lot going on in that image.  There is the overall form, reflecting the elegance of a suit jacket hanging on a hook--indeed, as often displayed in store windowfronts, or as you would do in your home or office....

Then there is the siren.  The girl.  Suggestively posed....her hand, her hair hiding her face to allow the darker recesses of your imagination to run riot...and all fronted with some story from the classical mythology..."Parthenope"..."Parthenos" is virgin in Greek...
 

 

It's all very tastefully done.  Keeping it real..but politely so.  What a nice alternative to the in-your-face advertising of SuitSupply!

Shame they went under!  Like their siren!

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