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post #1 of 9
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I am having my eyes set on a brand new pair of Johnston & Murphy Aldrich II from its so-called higher end Aristocrat collection (Made in India now). It's currently on sale for about 199 USD. However, I have also seen some suggested ideas of buying use AE Park Revenue from eBay. I've found a pair for around 200 USD (incl. shipping and duty as I'm in Canada sadly). The used AE looks slightly used with like new uppers and I can get a local cobbler to put TOPY on their worn soles. 

 

Which option do you think would be better in term of value and long-term use? 

post #2 of 9

Are a new pair of AEs completely out of reach?

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Are a new pair of AEs completely out of reach?

Yes, I kinda need to budget this purchase to around $200

post #4 of 9

At this price range it's slim pickings in terms of qualifty footwear. I would personally never buy used shoes (for health reasons), and I think Johnston Murphy is definitely overpriced for the quality.

 

If you have time, wait for sales of higher quality shoes. A $400-500 shoe, which would most likely be a league ahead in terms of quality and construction, could fall down into your price range if the time is right and you look for it.

post #5 of 9

I recently joined the world of AE. And the entry was through ebay (1 pair of Black Delray - used, 1 pair of Brown Delray - new with defects [mismatch size and some scuffs] and 1 pair of Black Park Avenues - new with defects [mismatch size and some scuffs]). All 3 cost less than $180 (Canadian) a pair, which includes delivery!

Previously, in terms of Goodyear welt shoes, I've only had British (Dacks, Barker, Hawkins, Doc Martens) and Indian (Charles Tyrwhitt) models. The British/Indian shoes are generally heavier and scuff very easily.

The AE ones are lighter in weight, and a lot more stylish. I suspect the Brown Delray and Park Avenues were seconds to begin with, and returned.

The Black Delrays were really comfortable, and I am on my feet all day (a lot of walking). This pair was lightly worn, as the insoles, and soles showed little use.

I honestly believe that these is nothing wrong with buying second hand shoes - as long as the soles and insoles show little wear and tear. Remember, AE can be recrafted by AE themselves, or other reputable services like Nucraft.

 

Try the second hand route. Good luck on finding deals!

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I am having my eyes set on a brand new pair of Johnston & Murphy Aldrich II from its so-called higher end Aristocrat collection (Made in India now). It's currently on sale for about 199 USD. However, I have also seen some suggested ideas of buying use AE Park Revenue from eBay. I've found a pair for around 200 USD (incl. shipping and duty as I'm in Canada sadly). The used AE looks slightly used with like new uppers and I can get a local cobbler to put TOPY on their worn soles. 

Which option do you think would be better in term of value and long-term use? 

You can also look for retail returns or new without box, which I have found on eBay. The Crown Aristocrats go for about $200 (shipping included) and Allen Edmonds can be had for less than. 200 ( shipping in included ). I bought 2 new pairs of AE on eBay but they were size mismatched.
post #7 of 9

How about Meerimin?  https://www.meermin.es/catalogo.php?idFamilia4=1&idFamilia3=1

 

A lot of good models for under or around $200.

 

https://www.meermin.es/articulo.php?idArt=4639

$175

 

post #8 of 9

I would order a pair of "factory seconds" from Allen Edmonds.  They're slightly imperfect shoes, but I've ordered 10 or so pairs over the years, and only two or three have defects I was able to notice, and most of them are just a pair of loose stitches or something similar.  Many of their factory seconds sell for $150-$225, and they're full-grain leather, goodyear welted, etc.  

 

Allen Edmonds makes a model called the Bloor Street, which is essentially a version of the Park Avenue that's made exclusively for the Canadian retailer Harry Rosen.  It has a couple of differences from the Park Avenue (a poron insole being the major one), but, at $199, that's as reasonably priced as you'll find a new full-grain cap-toe oxford.

 

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I am having my eyes set on a brand new pair of Johnston & Murphy Aldrich II from its so-called higher end Aristocrat collection (Made in India now). It's currently on sale for about 199 USD. However, I have also seen some suggested ideas of buying use AE Park Revenue from eBay. I've found a pair for around 200 USD (incl. shipping and duty as I'm in Canada sadly). The used AE looks slightly used with like new uppers and I can get a local cobbler to put TOPY on their worn soles. 

 

Which option do you think would be better in term of value and long-term use? 

post #9 of 9

Forgot to mention, the website for their factory seconds inventory is www.shoebank.com.  If you ask, a salesperson will usually take a look at the shoes and let you know if the defect that makes them factory seconds is obvious or not.

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