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So a birth year (1980) two-tone Rolex 16753 head only popped up on line in pretty decent condition (no box or papers). I've fancied the idea of a less than perfect looking birth year Sub or GMT that I could wear on a strap for awhile, but really don't have a good picture of the right price. I've done business with the seller before so I trust the provenance. Any ideas of what a reasonable price would be for something like this?

According to Chrono24, the general range is between $5.5K and $7K. Maybe a little less without bracelet.
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OMG mimo... srsly?!

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If you haven't already, I think you'll enjoy reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. It's about quality.
It's a favourite. cheers.gif
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I suspected as much :-)

Final recommendation: The Tao of Physics.
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Thanks for the grinder advice guys! 



Bit of a double take when I read this.  Reminded me of a post a blind friend of mine made on Facebook recently: "So, Grindr is not the same as Tinder then...hard to tell when you can't see the faces."  True story.

Baaahahahahaha!
I totally missed that when I typed it out!!! You win the internet gold star for today!
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So, I am not a watch collector but certainly appreciate them. I have several automatics, the best being a Baume Capeland S I got years ago. I have been looking for a dress watch for a while and have been thinking gold (or plated) to match my yellow gold wedding ring. While I would love a hobnailed Calatrava or a Patrimony, or even a Reverso for that matter, it just isn't in the budget with a new baby. So, I found this:

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It would be under $300, so very cheap, but I thought I would check with the experts here before pulling the trigger. I am well aware that this is not an important horological piece, but want to make sure it isn't junk either. Thoughts? Thanks ahead of time and I appreciate all the pron that is displayed here.

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So, I am not a watch collector but certainly appreciate them. I have several automatics, the best being a Baume Capeland S I got years ago. I have been looking for a dress watch for a while and have been thinking gold (or plated) to match my yellow gold wedding ring. While I would love a hobnailed Calatrava or a Patrimony, or even a Reverso for that matter, it just isn't in the budget with a new baby. So, I found this:

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It would be under $300, so very cheap, but I thought I would check with the experts here before pulling the trigger. I am well aware that this is not an important horological piece, but want to make sure it isn't junk either. Thoughts? Thanks ahead of time and I appreciate all the pron that is displayed here.

 

@bdavro23 that's really pretty! What's the size though? If it's 34mm or less, you'll need to be comfortable with a watch that's pretty small by today's standards. 

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@bdavro23 that's really pretty! What's the size though? If it's 34mm or less, you'll need to be comfortable with a watch that's pretty small by today's standards. 


27 x 27. I am ok with smaller watches, so the size doesn't bother me, but that's a great point you bring up. I am more concerned with general quality thoughts or perhaps background on Universal Geneve/ this watch in particular.

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An interesting article in the Financial Times.
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Originally Posted by pmeis View Post

So a birth year (1980) two-tone Rolex 16753 head only popped up on line in pretty decent condition (no box or papers). I've fancied the idea of a less than perfect looking birth year Sub or GMT that I could wear on a strap for awhile, but really don't have a good picture of the right price. I've done business with the seller before so I trust the provenance. Any ideas of what a reasonable price would be for something like this?

 

This GMT website should help you figure out the year of the watch.  It seems 1980 is the end of the 1675/3 two-tone and the start of the 16753 two-tone.  Without box and papers, it may be hard to tell the year of manufacture and also if the seller knows you are looking for a particular year, they may charge you more.  In this case, it looks like 1675/3 was last produced in 1980 while the 16753 started production in 1981.  I would read up just to make sure then also figure out if there is any significance to the dial on the watch as that can affect pricing.

 

5513 Subs have many different dials which means pricing can vary widely depending on the particular dial.  Gilt, Meters First, Serif dial, and so on.

 

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/gmt-master_ref_1675.html

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After several months (years?) of lurking in this amazing thread, I figured I might try to contribute back myself. 

My first mechanical watch was a very humble vintage 60s Prim Spartak made in Czechoslovakia. Sadly, I didn't receive it from my grandfather (even though he most likely worn one like this back in the day), but off internet auction, as I was just starting to learn about mechanical watches, and wanted to see if I could live with a watch I have to manually wind. The watch is tiny (about 31mm), and I don't wear it much these days but it is a nice reminder of my home country whenever I do.



The second mechanical watch was a JLC Reverso Grande Taille. I got it when I was finishing grad school in Switzerland and getting ready for my new career across the Atlantic to remind myself of the time I spent there. The JLC manufacture is actually around 50km away from Lausanne where I lived - I used to go to Le Sentier for biking and cross-country skiing. When I first tried it on (about a year before I finally got it), it made me so happy for the rest of the day - I never thought a watch could do this to people smile.gif Now it is my office watch, although it looks great with a polo and shorts as well (as long as I don't wear it to the beach).




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Finally, the last watch I got so far is a diver Seiko SKX007. Arguably, I got it out of necessity (I didn't want to wear my Reverso to more casual occasions), and also to see if I could like divers watches in general, but I have since come to really enjoy it.





Now I could definitely stop there (one vintage watch - one "real" dress watch - one divers watch), but of course, once you have been bitten with the bug, there is no going back smile.gif Thanks in big part to this thread, I have completely changed my opinion on Rolex, and I could see myself with an older Submariner 14060 or Explorer 14270 in a few years when the occasion is right for it. I also have a soft spot for Nomos (Tangente or Tetra, which was really pleasant when I tried it on). And if I ever win the (IPO) lottery, a Patek Aquanaut or Nautilus would be just the right way to celebrate it. Dreams...



I'm obviously late on this one ... but really enjoyed reading the original post, and wanted to quote for the awesome Reverso pic.

Excellent watch / excellent value and also one of THE most versatile SS pieces out there, IMHO.
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An interesting article in the Financial Times.

Ouch.

Not that I consider myself a big Werdelin guy ... but I can very much see where he's coming from, in terms of the outlook for smaller independents.
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Originally Posted by bdavro23 View Post


27 x 27. I am ok with smaller watches, so the size doesn't bother me, but that's a great point you bring up. I am more concerned with general quality thoughts or perhaps background on Universal Geneve/ this watch in particular.

I know nothing about the piece, but I like it. It is simple, understated despite being gold, and a sensible size. I am not a fan of recent trends in watch size or, indeed, garish design. It is manually wound?
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Originally Posted by bdavro23 View Post
 

So, I am not a watch collector but certainly appreciate them. I have several automatics, the best being a Baume Capeland S I got years ago. I have been looking for a dress watch for a while and have been thinking gold (or plated) to match my yellow gold wedding ring...

 

It would be under $300, so very cheap, but I thought I would check with the experts here before pulling the trigger. I am well aware that this is not an important horological piece, but want to make sure it isn't junk either. Thoughts? Thanks ahead of time and I appreciate all the pron that is displayed here.

Universal Geneve has made some nice watches, and they are probably most famous for their chronographs.  Although, I'm no UG expert, based on the design and dial it looks like something from the 1970s, which was a tough time for many watch companies. Not knowing exactly when it was made, or what is inside, its hard to know if this was a quality piece, or just something they scraped together just to stay afloat.  While not on par with Patek, JLC, etc, being inexpensive doesn't make it junk.  There are plenty of good vintage pieces, that are not all that expensive.  That being said its sort of hard to expect a lot from a watch that costs under $300...today one could spend that on a necktie.  So if you love that watch, and its in good condition and works maybe its a good purchase.  Do your homework, look online and see what similar pieces are selling for and if anyone has done a review on a similar vintage piece from UG.  Wishing you luck and happy shopping. 

 

P.S...I'd skip gold plated pieces.  While plating has improved over the years, once some of the plating comes off, items tend to look pretty bad and depending on what you pay for an inexpensive watch, it could cost you more to have re-plated than you originally spent on it. 

 

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Ouch.

Not that I consider myself a big Werdelin guy ... but I can very much see where he's coming from, in terms of the outlook for smaller independents.

Yea, never been a fan of their watches.  Still interesting to hear that their pieces aren't selling.  I had heard last year was the first time in years that several Swiss companies had flat sales or a slight drop in sales.  One would like to think it might give some brands a reason to pause when considering whether or not to increase prices.  

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Thanks for the grinder advice guys! 

 

Bit of a double take when I read this.  Reminded me of a post a blind friend of mine made on Facebook recently: "So, Grindr is not the same as Tinder then...hard to tell when you can't see the faces."  True story.

 

Not sure why I'm not quoting your properly, but per your GMT comment about a strap change I agree.  Not sure what I'll do for my next watch, but one watch I've been considering is a Coke GMT which I would put on a strap like the Hodinkee aged green moss leather strap.  I think it gives the watch a completely different look which can work for someone individually depending on how they'd wear it.  

 

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An interesting article in the Financial Times.

 

This doesn't surprise me with a few points he mentioned.  For starters there seem to be a lot of older watches out there.  Take Rolex for example.  According to Crown and Calibre there are nearly 2000 watches on that site alone.  Obviously you'll get a mix per individual style and you'll probably find more Datejusts than you will Daytonas.  Still it amazes me how well some of the watches in general hold their value despite the availability.  Take that Coke GMT I mentioned for example.  I could find one today in the condition I want as I see them on multiple sites out there.  Anyway, I'm new to the game but it seems like there is plenty of inventory in the secondary market such that I would think it would affect the sale of new watches considering how popular vintage is.  And it's not just Rolex either.  On top of that there's a new watch that I could buy new directly from an AD, but I know they're not sold out and are probably not that close, and this was a watch limited to 300 pieces.  So I think in some cases you'll continue to see more limited production, or at least you should.  

 

There seems to be an influx of and demand for stainless steel watches.  I think inventory is a bigger issue, but there also seems to be a demand for steel as opposed to gold or platinum based on the difference in price.  

 

This being the first Basel that I've followed this closely, it amazes me how much they spend.

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