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I read on one of the watch sites ("Watches by SJX," I think), that both models of the Daytona will be available for sale. Any truth to that? What's the logic behind it? I wonder if anyone will be buying the "old" Daytona, especially if the price is the same.
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This is not meant to be any more than an honest question. Why, typically, does one prefer the Daytona to the Speedy? Bullet points are fine.
post #813 of 3941
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Originally Posted by dan'l View Post

I read on one of the watch sites ("Watches by SJX," I think), that both models of the Daytona will be available for sale. Any truth to that? What's the logic behind it? I wonder if anyone will be buying the "old" Daytona, especially if the price is the same.

I had thought the ceramic one was replacing the steel bezeled model, but perhaps I was wrong.  That being said, Rolex sold steel bezels Daytonas along side those with black inserts on their manual wind Daytonas from the 1960's through the late 1980s, so there is some precedent for offering both.  Whether that will happen, we will just have to wait and see. 

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Originally Posted by dan'l View Post

I read on one of the watch sites ("Watches by SJX," I think), that both models of the Daytona will be available for sale. Any truth to that? What's the logic behind it? I wonder if anyone will be buying the "old" Daytona, especially if the price is the same.


Shrug, I would as it's the one I prefer.

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I had thought the ceramic one was replacing the steel bezeled model, but perhaps I was wrong.  That being said, Rolex sold steel bezels Daytonas along side those with black inserts on their manual wind Daytonas from the 1960's through the late 1980s, so there is some precedent for offering both.  Whether that will happen, we will just have to wait and see. 

Here's the exact quote:

And to answer a question everyone will ask: the new Daytona is an addition to the line, and does not replace the existing ref. 116520 which will continue in production.

I suppose the Deepsea is another model with two versions (two dials, that is), but still, seems like most of the crowd would be drawn to the newer one.
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I suppose the Deepsea is another model with two versions (two dials, that is), but still, seems like most of the crowd would be drawn to the newer one.

Newness always creates a frenzy.  People were dumping their previous 16520s the minute 116520s became available.  People were getting rid of 16710 GMTS when the new ceramic models came out.  Yet, there is a thriving interest in 16520s and 16710s and the values are both significantly higher than when they were new.  Newness wears off, greatness survives and I think there is room in plenty of collections to own each version.  

 

As someone who owns 2 generations of Daytonas, I wouldn't sell either to get the ceramic model, I would just save up and add a ceramic one, once I know which color I prefer in person. 

post #817 of 3941
Thread Starter 

Seems to me they have such a distinctive difference in tone and personality that there's plenty of room for both - especially as demand has been so consistent over the years.  After all, they already sustain the gold/steel version that is cheaper used than the steel one, and several precious metal versions.  I think the stable is plenty big enough.

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This is not meant to be any more than an honest question. Why, typically, does one prefer the Daytona to the Speedy? Bullet points are fine.

 

I'm the opposite - I prefer the Speedy Pro to the Daytona.

 

A large part of that is the price, as I simply wouldn't want to pay as much as a Daytona costs for a "tool watch" and since I've got a Speedy Pro and a Heuer Carrera, I don't feel the need for another three-dial chronograph.

 

Also, for me, the Daytona is a bit too blingy, with the polished surfaces, and I don't like the design of the pushers for the chronograph functions but those are, of course, entirely subjective opinions - some people would like those features.

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I'm the opposite - I prefer the Speedy Pro to the Daytona.

A large part of that is the price, as I simply wouldn't want to pay as much as a Daytona costs for a "tool watch" and since I've got a Speedy Pro and a Heuer Carrera, I don't feel the need for another three-dial chronograph.

Also, for me, the Daytona is a bit too blingy, with the polished surfaces, and I don't like the design of the pushers for the chronograph functions but those are, of course, entirely subjective opinions - some people would like those features.

I tend to agree. I'm just wondering if I missed some significant heritage/pedigree component to the Daytona. To be perfectly honest, the Speedy to me is pretty much the quintessential chrono, and as you say, the price can't be beat - especially considering the history behind it. If I were in a position to desire several chronos, I would see the Daytona as a strong contender, but it likely wouldn't be the second one I'd add. I might go for a Carrera as well. As such, I feel like I must be missing something.
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From these two, I feel like I would get...

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Panda that, Frilly.
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Now THIS, I really like.



What is this? I've searched Baselworld blogs trying to find this but haven't had any luck. I really like "EVERYTHING" this has going on with it!!!
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What is this? I've searched Baselworld blogs trying to find this but haven't had any luck. I really like "EVERYTHING" this has going on with it!!!

 

Here you go:

 

H.Moser & Cie Pioneer Perpetual:

 

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-h-moser-pioneer-perpetual-a-favorite-now-comes-with-a-more-casual-vibe-and-120-meter-water-resistance

 

Edited to add: As the name indicates, it's a perpetual calendar (ie indicates months and days and also takes account of leap years). There's also a dressier version available, called the Endeavour Perpetual.

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One more pic..

post #825 of 3941
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

This is not meant to be any more than an honest question. Why, typically, does one prefer the Daytona to the Speedy? Bullet points are fine.

I don't! Lol.






I just don't like how the SS Daytona wears. I may could like a precious metal though. Never had one on the wrist. After wearing the SS for a few days I was just put off by it for some reason and never had the itch to change my mind until the black ceramic panda was released. It looks so much more appealing to me.
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