• Hi, I am the owner and main administrator of Styleforum. If you find the forum useful and fun, please help support it by buying through the posted links on the forum. Our main, very popular sales thread, where the latest and best sales are listed, are posted HERE

    Purchases made through some of our links earns a commission for the forum and allows us to do the work of maintaining and improving it. Finally, thanks for being a part of this community. We realize that there are many choices today on the internet, and we have all of you to thank for making Styleforum the foremost destination for discussions of menswear.
  • This site contains affiliate links for which Styleforum may be compensated.
  • We would like to welcome House of Huntington as an official Affiliate Vendor. Shop past season Drake's, Nigel Cabourn, Private White V.C. and other menswear luxury brands at exceptional prices below retail. Please visit the Houise of Huntington thread and welcome them to the forum.

  • STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

    Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Please support us by using them. You may learn more here.

Winot

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
589
Reaction score
564
I've probably ranted about this before, but it's incredibly frustrating how difficult it is sometimes to find out information about case thickness. It's pretty fundamental to how a watch feels on the wrist, and yet so many makers/sellers don't bother to list it.

An example - I'm trying to find out how thick the new Panerai 562 & 564 are - and yet the information is difficult to come by and isn't even on Panerai's own website as far as I can tell.

Not good enough!
 

pmeis

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2014
Messages
892
Reaction score
2,009

I've probably ranted about this before, but it's incredibly frustrating how difficult it is sometimes to find out information about case thickness. It's pretty fundamental to how a watch feels on the wrist, and yet so many makers/sellers don't bother to list it.

An example - I'm trying to find out how thick the new Panerai 562 & 564 are - and yet the information is difficult to come by and isn't even on Panerai's own website as far as I can tell.

Not good enough!


Yep, very strange. I have a 562 and I'm not even sure. Seems to be between 14 and 15mm. BTW, highly recommend one if it appeals to you!
 

no frills

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jan 16, 2013
Messages
2,217
Reaction score
2,121
I've probably ranted about this before, but it's incredibly frustrating how difficult it is sometimes to find out information about case thickness. It's pretty fundamental to how a watch feels on the wrist, and yet so many makers/sellers don't bother to list it.

An example - I'm trying to find out how thick the new Panerai 562 & 564 are - and yet the information is difficult to come by and isn't even on Panerai's own website as far as I can tell.

Not good enough!

I actually take a caliper and measure the case dimensions and thickness myself, as even published statistics are imprecise. The currently produced Rolex Daytona ref 116520, for example, is listed as 40mm in terms of case size, but taking a caliper and measuring it from the standard 10-4 (not including the pushers) yields 38.5mm (@Belligero mentioned this long ago, but I had to confirm it for myself). Hence, it WILL wear smaller than a SubC / SD (which really do clock in at 40mm).

As far as thickness goes, I've measured the SubC ref 114060 at 12.5mm, the new SD4000 ref 116600 at 15mm, and the DeepSea ref 116660 at 17.5mm. No info for your Panerai references though. Sometimes you gotta do it on your own.
 

Viral

Distinguished Member
Joined
Aug 7, 2009
Messages
5,302
Reaction score
1,420

I actually take a caliper and measure the case dimensions and thickness myself, as even published statistics are imprecise.  The currently produced Rolex Daytona ref 116520, for example, is listed as 40mm in terms of case size, but taking a caliper and measuring it from the standard 10-4 (not including the pushers) yields 38.5mm (@Belligero
 mentioned this long ago, but I had to confirm it for myself).  Hence, it WILL wear smaller than a SubC / SD (which really do clock in at 40mm).

As far as thickness goes, I've measured the SubC ref 114060 at 12.5mm, the new SD4000 ref 116600 at 15mm, and the DeepSea ref 116660 at 17.5mm.  No info for your Panerai references though.  Sometimes you gotta do it on your own.


interesting - and good to know!
 

AriGold

Distinguished Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2009
Messages
1,364
Reaction score
607
Guys I am absolutely torn as to which watch I should get next (considering my interval for buying watches is probably around 3-5 years per watch!)

I currently own an Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich as my daily wearer.


Option A: Rolex BLNR
Option B: IWC Portuguesier Automatic 7-Days (ref: 5007 with updated ceramic components and double barrel spring)

Love the Rolex BLNR and also love the 7 day movement of the IWC. They are completely different watches and I hope to own both one day. I can get a good price on the IWC (under $9,500) or an OK price on the Rolex BLNR ($9,000) OR wait 6-12 months to get an even better price on the Rolex BLNR ($7,800) through a dealer.


What to do what to do? I live in the tropics right now so worried that excessive sweating isnt great for a leather strap's longevity.



2118642


2118643
 
Last edited:

bdavro23

Distinguished Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
3,687
Reaction score
4,452
^ To me, since the above are very different watches and dont fill the same space at all, it would be difficult to make a like for like comparison to help decide. With that being said, you already have a speedmaster, so I would go with the IWC for a little change of pace.
 

tricky

Distinguished Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2008
Messages
5,398
Reaction score
5,434
Both solid choices but the BLNR would be my choice. I'm rather bias toward Rolex and the BLNR is very versatile. I would put the Speedmaster on a leather strap or nato for casual.
 

robw

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2010
Messages
187
Reaction score
106
They are both great watches, so a win either way in my opinion. One thing to consider, I would suggest, is that the IWC, although not a classic dress watch because of its size, goes well with a suit or sport coat and is much more usable in that way then the Rolex (or Omega that you already have). If that is a consideration, then the IWC may get the nod.

On a side note, it's your money, but is it really worth paying 1000+ to get 6 to 12 months more wear out of the Rolex? I would give that some thought too.

Guys I am absolutely torn as to which watch I should get next (considering my interval for buying watches is probably around 3-5 years per watch!)

I currently own an Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich as my daily wearer.


Option A: Rolex BLNR
Option B: IWC Portuguesier Automatic 7-Days (ref: 5007 with updated ceramic components and double barrel spring)

Love the Rolex BLNR and also love the 7 day movement of the IWC. They are completely different watches and I hope to own both one day. I can get a good price on the IWC (under $9,500) or an OK price on the Rolex BLNR ($9,00) OR wait 6-12 months to get an even better price on the Rolex BLNR ($7,800) through a dealer.


What to do what to do? I live in the tropics right now so worried that excessive sweating isnt great for a leather strap's longevity.



2118642


2118643
 

rnguy001

Distinguished Member
Joined
Mar 30, 2010
Messages
1,569
Reaction score
991
^ Yowza, both great watches though being completely different. Flip a coin?

The BLNR is surely a favorite among watch guys, even more so with Rolex purists so it must be doing many things right. Personally I prefer the IWC, as the polished links on the oyster bracelet are a bit of a pet peeve, but again both solid choices.
 

Farhad19620

Distinguished Member
Joined
Oct 17, 2007
Messages
1,112
Reaction score
314

Guys I am absolutely torn as to which watch I should get next (considering my interval for buying watches is probably around 3-5 years per watch!)

I currently own an Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich as my daily wearer.


Option A: Rolex BLNR
Option B: IWC Portuguesier Automatic 7-Days (ref: 5007 with updated ceramic components and double barrel spring)

Love the Rolex BLNR and also love the 7 day movement of the IWC. They are completely different watches and I hope to own both one day. I can get a good price on the IWC (under $9,500) or an OK price on the Rolex BLNR ($9,000) OR wait 6-12 months to get an even better price on the Rolex BLNR ($7,800) through a dealer.


What to do what to do? I live in the tropics right now so worried that excessive sweating isnt great for a leather strap's longevity.



2118642


2118643





IWC for me! I cannot get my straps to wear out quickly enough so I can buy another strap! LOL
 

golfinz

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Messages
625
Reaction score
216
There is something about the BLNR that would make it hard for me to pick the IWC over it. The BLNR will be my next Rolex
 

kimmo

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2010
Messages
162
Reaction score
113
Weather.

Now that Northern Europe has something remotely similar to summer, I noticed that my "go to"-watch changed. All winter I've grabbed the Milgauss first but since weather warmed up, JLC DSC with NATO wins the day.

(disclaimer: this has been achieved in long vacation / sabbatical circumstances, if I'd been at the office, I'd probably would have had more variation)
 

Dino944

Distinguished Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
7,691
Reaction score
8,638
Guys I am absolutely torn as to which watch I should get next (considering my interval for buying watches is probably around 3-5 years per watch!)

I currently own an Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich as my daily wearer.


Option A: Rolex BLNR
Option B: IWC Portuguesier Automatic 7-Days (ref: 5007 with updated ceramic components and double barrel spring)

Love the Rolex BLNR and also love the 7 day movement of the IWC. They are completely different watches and I hope to own both one day. I can get a good price on the IWC (under $9,500) or an OK price on the Rolex BLNR ($9,000) OR wait 6-12 months to get an even better price on the Rolex BLNR ($7,800) through a dealer.


What to do what to do? I live in the tropics right now so worried that excessive sweating isnt great for a leather strap's longevity.
The choice for me is easy, as I am biased in 2 ways...I've never really liked the IWC Portuguesier and I'm a big fan and owner of a BLNR.

All kidding aside, in warmer weather/or a tropical climate I prefer watches on a metal bracelet. Most straps if worn in tropical climates have to be replaced more often than if you lived in a more temperate climate, particularly if you are outside a great deal (as you know sweat ruins or hastens the wear on straps). That being said, you could go with an aftermarket strap with a rubber lining, which might give you some additional wear from a strap.

For me the GMT is a very different and versatile watch. Obviously, if you travel or need to keep track of contacting people in another timezone the GMT function is very handy. You can wear it in all sorts of weather without worrying about the strap, you can wear it to go swimming, and other than for occasions that truly require a dress watch you can get by wearing it with a suit. Also if you go with a new or newish GMT you get a 5 year warranty or the balance of it, rather than a 2 year warranty. You mention living in a tropical area, and so I can't help but think that knowing heat, humidity and moisture are not watch friendly conditions there really isn't a watch I'd rather have for such an environment than a Rolex.

I would also ask if you have tried both on and if one made you smile more than the others. That can often be a more important factor than any advice we could give you. In the end, whatever you don't get this time you could add it to your list of "Must haves" for the future. Wishing you luck with whatever you decide.

Here is a quick photo to help you decide.
 

TheTukker

Distinguished Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2007
Messages
2,560
Reaction score
139

...

I would also ask if you have tried both on and if one made you smile more than the others.  That can often be a more important factor than any advice we could give you.  In the end, whatever you don't get this time you could add it to your list of "Must haves" for the future. Wishing you luck with whatever you decide.
....
[/URL]


This; +7.
 

Featured Sponsor

How important is full vs half canvas to you for heavier sport jackets?

  • Definitely full canvas only

    Votes: 45 40.5%
  • Half canvas is fine

    Votes: 44 39.6%
  • Really don't care

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • Depends on fabric

    Votes: 18 16.2%
  • Depends on price

    Votes: 25 22.5%

Forum statistics

Threads
504,443
Messages
10,573,992
Members
223,704
Latest member
nother
Top