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@Belligero, something for you to look forward to next summer: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Like everyone else on the forum it seems, I have 2 girls (4 and 2) and I absolutely love having 2 girls. Would be happy to have another one.
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Another with 2 girls! (9 & 11). Congratulations!

We have quite a club here as I see ))

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I promise I won't spam this thread with baby photos — at least not watchless ones, anyway

It's ok we still can talk about watches biggrin.gif







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Casual Friday...

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Hey dudes.

I had the best new arrival ever on Monday... it was literally Labour Day!
 

Hey, a bit late to the party as I was traveling, but congrats on the new addition!!!  She's really adorable.  Glad to hearing Mom, daughter and Dad are all doing well.  Congrats again my friend! :cheers:

 

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It's interesting that you mentioned DavidSW as he had the watch I was looking at:

 

http://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16710-gmt-master-ii/

 

It too is a Z serial, but as the papers show the original bezel was black.  At the end of the day I'll have to decide on serial, bezel matching papers and condition.  I think for me the serial won't matter quite as much, but we'll have to see.  Either way the watch you linked is definitely not what I'd be looking to spend since I'm more aesthetically driven.  Of course I'm also interested in a few different watches at the moment so we'll have to see how things go.  

I've heard good things about DavidSW, but never dealt with him.  I only posted the DavidSW photo as an example showing the bezel color identified, not necessarily suggesting its the watch for you.  While its cool in a sense to get a watch that is the last of the breed, and to be one of only 2 serial numbers/years of production to carry cal 3186, but personally I could be happy spending a lot less and buying a 16710 with full box and papers in great condition but carrying the more common cal 3185.  Then I'd still have some fun money to use on another watch.  I get it that there are some collectors that will go nuts for a Z or M serial with cal 3186...but I'm not one of them.  Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

 

I've heard good things about DavidSW, but never dealt with him.  I only posted the DavidSW photo as an example showing the bezel color identified, not necessarily suggesting its the watch for you.  While its cool in a sense to get a watch that is the last of the breed, and to be one of only 2 serial numbers/years of production to carry cal 3186, but personally I could be happy spending a lot less and buying a 16710 with full box and papers in great condition but carrying the more common cal 3185.  Then I'd still have some fun money to use on another watch.  I get it that there are some collectors that will go nuts for a Z or M serial with cal 3186...but I'm not one of them.  Cheers!

 

Yeah, DavidSW seems great.  Had some email correspondence in the past and he was excellent.  

 

Yeah, I'm not fussed about the movement.  I'm more concerned with condition than anything and the best looking 16710s that I've come across recently were Z serials.

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I'd also like to chime in and say congrats to one of the most helpful posters here! Thanks for sharing your wonderful news @Belligero.

Now I wonder if you also critiqued the font on the birth certificate. smile.gif
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Tale of woe, I lost my "baby" yesterday.

Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration but I post to seek recommendations for a replacement of my lost Seiko diver with metal bracelet (a Seiko 5 that was much ballyhooed on here a few years back, I bought online for 100 bucks all in and I liked it). And, to caution how else a watch can be lost in an instant!

So, I was bringing my sailboat up to a dock under power yesterday. Cel phone was on the deck, car keys in my pocket, etc. Watch just checked on my wrist a few minutes back to acertain that I was on time to meet a friend arriving shortly at the dock. A dockhand was waiting for the bowline to get close enough and when it does, he grabs it and snubs the bow to a cleat. Rather than wait patiently for him to then get my stern line, I grab it and hop off to the dock myself to secure the boat. He says, "oh, I could have got that, you knocked something into the water." I say, thanks, it's ok, I've got it, and no, I didn't drop or knock anything overboard. We stand there and discuss while I take inventory. I see my celphone (whew)! I feel the keys. We drop the subject.
A minute later, I say to the dockhand, "I know what it was!" "What?" I look at my sweaty wrist where the clunky metal Seiko band was a few minutes before. I realized that, as I jumped ashore, my wrist brushed the wire rigging of the boat and it must have opened the clasp and neatly "picked" my watch off my arm and it fell into the drink and that's what the dockhand had heard splash in. I was glad I wasn't wearing a Rolex!

Moral of the story, there are an infinite number of ways to lose things on the water.

And, thanks in advance for any recommendations for a replacement stainless, auto diver type watch with a metal bracelet at popular prices.
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Originally Posted by Spats View Post

Tale of woe, I lost my "baby" yesterday.

Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration but I post to seek recommendations for a replacement of my lost Seiko diver with metal bracelet (a Seiko 5 that was much ballyhooed on here a few years back, I bought online for 100 bucks all in and I liked it). And, to caution how else a watch can be lost in an instant!

So, I was bringing my sailboat up to a dock under power yesterday. Cel phone was on the deck, car keys in my pocket, etc. Watch just checked on my wrist a few minutes back to acertain that I was on time to meet a friend arriving shortly at the dock. A dockhand was waiting for the bowline to get close enough and when it does, he grabs it and snubs the bow to a cleat. Rather than wait patiently for him to then get my stern line, I grab it and hop off to the dock myself to secure the boat. He says, "oh, I could have got that, you knocked something into the water." I say, thanks, it's ok, I've got it, and no, I didn't drop or knock anything overboard. We stand there and discuss while I take inventory. I see my celphone (whew)! I feel the keys. We drop the subject.
A minute later, I say to the dockhand, "I know what it was!" "What?" I look at my sweaty wrist where the clunky metal Seiko band was a few minutes before. I realized that, as I jumped ashore, my wrist brushed the wire rigging of the boat and it must have opened the clasp and neatly "picked" my watch off my arm and it fell into the drink and that's what the dockhand had heard splash in. I was glad I wasn't wearing a Rolex!

Moral of the story, there are an infinite number of ways to lose things on the water.

And, thanks in advance for any recommendations for a replacement stainless, auto diver type watch with a metal bracelet at popular prices.

Ha! Your story finally explains the second clasp over the clasp that is present on the slightly higher end Seikos (like my Prospex Tuna). I was wondering what was the point. 

 

Picture:

 

I've only ever sailed with a G-Shock partly for that reason, partly because they are indestructible, partly because I didn't want to mind losing the thing...

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Ha! Your story finally explains the second clasp over the clasp that is present on the slightly higher end Seikos (like my Prospex Tuna). I was wondering what was the point. 
Well, I think it had a clasp like the one you pictured. I remember there was a lot of SF talk about what a great bracelet the watch had for the money, back when I bought.
Full disclosure: because the watch was heavy and the band made my wrist sweat at times, I WAS in the unconscious habit of unfastening the clasp and letting the clunker dangle loosely on my wrist for a few minutes at a time. I honestly can't remember if I had done that yesterday just before the loss, or not. It's funny; after I realized what I'd lost overboard, my sweaty wrist had a "memory" of brushing the wire and losing the weight of the watch. But I didn't realize it at all at the moment it happened.
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Feel free to post pictures of said tuna. I really like the aesthetics of the tuna not sure what that says about me.
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Ah yes recommendations. Members of this thread, you might want to avert your eyes as we're heading for a budget that wouldn't even cover a service for your typical wrist pieces.

 

I quite like my Seiko, the SRP637. It is absolutely massive, thanks to the shroud, and heavy even with the factory bracelet, solid steel, but very, very readable in all conditions. I liked it most skiing, it was stormy, windy, my goggles were fogging up as well. The watch is easily graspable even with a large glove and readable even when you can't see a meter away. Prospex means much higher build quality but it's not much more expensive than the Seiko 5 divers which (in my experience owning a half dozen) are less solidly built. Metal bezel means no scratches when you do what you have to do on your boat, which is not a watch friendly environment (not the ones I've been on). The lume is ferocious, which is why I've started taking long haul flights with this watch instead of something dressier, when I wake up my vision is not particularly clear and it's very easy to see what time it is on the baby tuna.

 

I would not however call it "pretty". That's the biggest criticism from other people. Personally, I can't fit it under any shirt cuff and I can't really swim (pool swim; it's fine with flippers) with it because it's so heavy on the arm (this probably applies to most modern divers). Also, the bezel is a little hard to turn in part because of the shroud which hides a portion of it, in part because they made this particular bezel hard to turn vs more standard divers. 

 

I like it because I used to be an engineer and I like things where form follows function, particularly when I'm going to use them in a setting where looks don't matter. There's a time for a Patek and a time for a Seiko beater.

 

The Marine Masters are a good upgrade and the last mechanical model in the line. Sumo fits under a shirt cuff better. The "real" Tunas are exceptional quartz movements but we're getting into budgets beyond the "popular". If you want to get historical, the MM600 was the ground breaking watch that put Seiko ahead of all the competition, it famously did not need helium escape valves and was the result of years of R&D after an angry letter from a local diver about his exploding watches.

 

SKX007/9 are massively popular but the Malaysia-made models (SKX007K) are - at least in Singapore - almost all affected by the slightly offset dial (look at the 6, see how the triangle is a mm or two to the right) and the premium for the Japan-made model which avoids this problem (SKX007J) puts you in Prospex territory. SKX009 has the Pepsi dial which will avoid your wrist looking like a wannabe sub (although I think the designs are distinctive enough, that is what non-watch-enthusiasts say). If I were to spend several thousand, it would be for a Darth Tuna.

 

Just saw your reply to my earlier post. Rubber or NATO might be a solution? I have my G-shock on NATO and take it windsurfing. It can be machine washed...

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Feel free to post pictures of said tuna. I really like the aesthetics of the tuna not sure what that says about me.

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The only thing that put me off the Baby Tuna is that is doesn't offer any depth rating improvement over the Monster despite it's big mean-looking case. Makes it feel like a bit of a fraud. But I like the look.

I'm also looking for a cheap, chunky diver,on a bracelet. Preferably big. And blue.
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The only thing that put me off the Baby Tuna is that is doesn't offer any depth rating improvement over the Monster despite it's big mean-looking case. Makes it feel like a bit of a fraud. But I like the look.

I'm also looking for a cheap, chunky diver,on a bracelet. Preferably big. And blue.

Oh, the case is not about extra depth, it's about protecting the bezel. Tunas were originally for professional divers, and one problem was that if they hit tools, oil platform steel bits, etc. the watch would take at least a scratch, potentially a decent dent. So now the shroud takes the dent, and when it is covered in dents, you just unscrew it and put a new one in. 

 

Of course since virtually all buyers are desk divers ("real" divers, amateurs or professionals, now rely on dive computers), it doesn't *really* matter but I personally find the Monster a tad aggressive looking and prefer putting a curve around most of the teeth. That and the asymmetry which gives it a certain uniqueness. Can't really explain it. I wasn't going to get one, but then I walked past it in a shop, tried it, and I just had to buy it after playing with it for a while.

 

There are heaps of chunky blue divers in Seiko world, of the aforementioned most famously the Sumo. If you're not going to beat it around too much, and you want something for casual wear, why not the Pogue chronograph? It was the first chronograph in space, named after Col. William Pogue who wore it to Skylab because NASA took too long getting him his official Omega, so he bought it and trained with it. You can get one for a few hundred bucks and it is massive looking. Silver is rarest, Pogue's was orange, there's also a blue. They've been around for decades, most never serviced, and still working fine.

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

The only thing that put me off the Baby Tuna is that is doesn't offer any depth rating improvement over the Monster despite it's big mean-looking case. Makes it feel like a bit of a fraud. But I like the look.

I'm also looking for a cheap, chunky diver,on a bracelet. Preferably big. And blue.
Well, according to the dockhand, my Seiko 5 now rests in about 25 feet of water at low, so the 100 foot depth spec was more than adequate!
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