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Kap, I can't possibly condone that intervention.

But it reminds me of a Breguet minute repeater smile.gif



No, my Citizen is much more elegant )))



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So the Breguet looks like a Citizen, maybe.

I was thinking the same ))

Jokes aside, I don't think they have much in common. And this is not the best shot of that beautiful Breguet wink.gif
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Kicking tyres this lunchtime (excuse the crappy phone pics). Reinforced my desire for a Lange Annual Calendar for my 50th, or earlier if possible.





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Wempe or WoS? Absolutely love the Saxonia Annual. The white gold with the blued hands makes me go hnnnng.

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I have the first year version of this one (which has the sandwich dial).  Love my hunk of titanium on the wrist.

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I pick the other one!
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Wempe or WoS? Absolutely love the Saxonia Annual. The white gold with the blued hands makes me go hnnnng.

The Patek store then WoS for the other two. I'm a bit embarrassed about how many times I go in there.
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I love Lange in general and I have a guilty lust for certain Panerais. And I do think Patek have rather lost their way in some respects.

Despite all that, this particular Calatrava is the winner of the three: I don't know why I can't love the Saxonia Annual - maybe it feels like it was made to plug a gap between the Saxonia and the Langematik Perpetual (unloved, but I love it)? And I'm such an embarrassing Lange fanboi. And I like the phat Luminor as a guilty pleasure but it belongs elsewhere - and even in that elsewhere I think the 1940 Rads are the pick.

But, as someone once said: "good luck with whatever you decide".
Edited by mimo - 9/2/16 at 2:29am
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I love Lange in general and I have a guilty lust for certain Panerais. And I do think Patek have rather lost their way in some respects.

Despite all that, this particular Calatrava is the winner of the three: I don't know why I can't love the Saxonia Annual - maybe it feels like it was made to plug a gap between the Saxonia and the Langematik Perpetual (unloved, but I love it)? And I'm such an embarrassing Lange fanboi. And I like the phat Luminor as a guilty pleasure but it belongs elsewhere - and even in that elsewhere I think the 1940 Rads are the pick.

But, as someone once said: "good luck with whatever you decide".

I'm definitely going to get the Luminor next time I pass through LHR and sell my Radiomir. The Radiomir isn't getting much wrist time as it's a bit caught in the middle between dressy and casual.

The Lange is a long-term prospect. Far too expensive for me right now. I like it far more than the Perpetual which is too busy for my taste. I like clean symmetrical dials and the Lange is the most successful of that complication that I've seen.

The Patek is lovely - when I was looking for a gold dress watch I tried on a few vintage/pre-owned Calatravas but couldn't find anything that hit the spot. No idea why I didn't try the 5196 - it would have done so. But not sure whether I would have gone for it over the Saxonia Thin, which was a touch cheaper. Don't know.
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The Patek store then WoS for the other two. I'm a bit embarrassed about how many times I go in there.


Feel the same way about William & Son. On passing, I am compelled to pop in and play with the Laurent Ferriers. Think by now they must sense the hook is set ...

post #2920 of 4021
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Different strokes, eh? I do like the Luminor in its own right as a casual beast - and that simple dial is a win.

As for over-visiting watch shops...yeah I think I'm over quota too!
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A couple of quick questions about a Rolex GMT Master II:

 

-So I'm noticing some listings out there along with some Instagram posts of GMT Masters with both bezels. So I'm curious if say I want a GMT Coke, is there a way I can tell from the papers that the GMT was originally Coke or if the bezel was replaced?  

 

-If not to the above question, does it matter?  Obviously that's a matter of opinion, but say if I were to consider reselling the watch someday would it make a big difference?  Would a buyer be able to tell?

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:slayer:Another interesting thread

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:cheers:

 

My time zone

 

 

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A couple of quick questions about a Rolex GMT Master II:

 

-So I'm noticing some listings out there along with some Instagram posts of GMT Masters with both bezels. So I'm curious if say I want a GMT Coke, is there a way I can tell from the papers that the GMT was originally Coke or if the bezel was replaced?  

 

-If not to the above question, does it matter?  Obviously that's a matter of opinion, but say if I were to consider reselling the watch someday would it make a big difference?  Would a buyer be able to tell?

I don't believe the papers on early 16710 GMT II's indicate what the original bezel was.  They can easily be popped out and replaced with another color if one chooses (I don't believe it has much effect on the value of a watch, the way the original dial does, ).  I believe only the dial color was indicated on Rolex papers, and from what I recall that only started around the early/mid 90's.  If you buy one prior to that it won't indicate dial color. 

 

Edit:  Actually, in thinking about it more, I remember last few serial numbers M & Z (it may be indicated on the credit card like warranty card and/or hang tag)...but those are rare ones with huge premiums because they are the only ones to carry the revised movement that went into the ceramic GMTs cal 3186).     I tried doing some research and saw a few hang tags which may have an indication, but the bezel might have been wrong.  I think if you see one that says LN, it should have a black bezel, BLRO (blue rouge) should be blue red.  Not sure what it would be for black red.  Do some homework and ask some people on a dedicate Rolex forum that have some late model 16710s.  Good luck!

 

Below is an example where a bezel may have been switched, if that's the correct hang tag for that watch...it has an LN on the tag.  

 

Image result for hang tags Rolex GMT 16710

 

Here is a Z model...DavidSW has if you look at the hang tag it seems to say, BLRO 

http://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16710-gmt-master-ii-4/


Edited by Dino944 - 9/3/16 at 10:43pm
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Any recs on London/Milan vintage or independent AD's to look at while I'm on vacation? Wondering if there's any deals (relatively) post-Pound drop.
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