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post #2521 of 3942
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Originally Posted by chanoch View Post

@mafafoon

I took your advice and tried ADs in Europe, though only two; only one even replied to my request about a discount, but it was a very instructive reply. They would give me the VAT, but nothing else. I believe the reason is that they are selling the discounted ones through grey market vendors (they didn't say so directly, I figured that out after a few other conversations with two ADs here and one very helpful American grey market seller). This keeps their sales up, making GO happy to continue dealing with them, while avoiding the ire of customers complaining to GO or others about unfair pricing. BTW: I've talked to several grey market and AD vendors since your advice (which as you can see I very much appreciated and took to heart), and it's the same here as in Europe, at least for GO watches. Insofar as GO now forces vendors to take more watches than the smaller ADs can handle, they need to offload them to grey market partners.

Are you e-mailing or calling? Get them on the phone. Blatantly asking for discounts by e-mail is not the right strategy. Call, tell them you are interested in a few different watches. Name a few, even ones you aren't really going to buy. Ask them about availability and pricing. Then ask them for best possible pricing on the one you actually want. Negotiate from there.

Try the larger dealers. They will be sort of hit or miss. Almost all will give you some discount. Many will not budge beyond a token amount. But many will play ball and go to the 15-20% range without much effort. Smaller dealers are more likely to clench tight.

The worst people to give you advice about buying watches are people who sell watches.
post #2522 of 3942
I've had good exchanges by phone and email, but your point is well-taken. The grey market dealer is giving me the 20% off plus VAT and handling the shipping. He seems to have a good reputation and has confirmed that the watch has the full, 2-year GO warranty, with papers from an AD. I really doubt that I'll save much more than that.

I will try to call a couple places when business opens in Europe tomorrow, as you suggest, but at this point don't see much more room. At $7200 (GO Senator Date Moon) with papers, GO warranty, and all the trimmings, I think my shopping may be done.
post #2523 of 3942
Sounds like you made a good choice. fing02[1].gif So you still have the trade-in credit with Tourneau?
post #2524 of 3942
Guys how are the grey market dealers able to give hick discounts on watches like AP?
post #2525 of 3942
@ambulance chaser

Thanks for your encouragement. Yes, I still have the trade-in credit, which I will try to sell back to them for their original offer. I doubt they will do it, in which case I'll see if I can sell it or keep it until they have a good sale or maybe use it for service, etc. Open to suggestions on what to do with it. Guess I made a mistake... not my first, not my last!
post #2526 of 3942
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Originally Posted by chanoch View Post

@ambulance chaser

Thanks for your encouragement. Yes, I still have the trade-in credit, which I will try to sell back to them for their original offer. I doubt they will do it, in which case I'll see if I can sell it or keep it until they have a good sale or maybe use it for service, etc. Open to suggestions on what to do with it. Guess I made a mistake... not my first, not my last!I 

If you are able to sell it to them, I believe it will be a lesser amount.  I vaguely recall a friend bringing in a watch years ago, and they asked if he was selling or trading, because the amount they would give is greater with a trade.  Wishing you luck.

post #2527 of 3942
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Originally Posted by chanoch View Post

@ambulance chaser

Thanks for your encouragement. Yes, I still have the trade-in credit, which I will try to sell back to them for their original offer. I doubt they will do it, in which case I'll see if I can sell it or keep it until they have a good sale or maybe use it for service, etc. Open to suggestions on what to do with it. Guess I made a mistake... not my first, not my last!

Apply the credit toward a no-date Sub. The Rolex will remind you of your dad, and you will have a great two-watch collection.
post #2528 of 3942
^ +1
post #2529 of 3942
I had recently come to the conclusion that 39-41mm is the perfect size for my wrist. I had even 'decided' that my 'final' 2 watches would be 2 of the following 3: a ceramic Daytona, RO 15300/15202, or the upcoming VC Overseas. I made a 'retail therapy' trip to NYC this past weekend to check out various boutiques in general & specifically to check out the 15202, FPJ Chronometre Bleu, GO's offerings, & hopefully the new Yachtmaster out in person.

Unfortunately the FPJ boutique did not have the bleu in stock & I was not able to find the YM. The 15202 was simply amazing on the wrist but I'm having a hell of a hard time justifying spending that kind of coin on a single watch. I was able to try on a watch I've long admired but have wished was much smaller: the GO Senator Observer. It's even more amazing in person & I've found myself lusting for that watch since trying it on. However I've had a bad experience with the last 44mm watch I bought, an Omega Speedy 9300, a watch I found to be very bulky & heavy when worn on the bracelet (less so on a strap). I find myself rationalizing the GO by trying to convince myself that it'll wear smaller & comfortable as it's a thinner watch, that being said I would be purchasing it on a bracelet as I like the flexibility of being able to wear a watch on a strap or bracelet.

I've attached pics, what do you all think? (BTW, my current 'collection' includes a BLNR, Reverso ultrathin duoface bleu, & a Speedy 3572.50 Mitsukoshi conversion)







post #2530 of 3942
I've found 36-42mm being suitable for me, with 38-40 being my sweet spot.
post #2531 of 3942
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

I've found 36-42mm being suitable for me, with 38-40 being my sweet spot.

Same here.
post #2532 of 3942
^ I've always liked that GO and think you wear it well. I think I would prefer the white dialed version though.
post #2533 of 3942
@IGotId my vote is for the Chonometre Bleu.
post #2534 of 3942
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Originally Posted by IGotId View Post

I had recently come to the conclusion that 39-41mm ... I find myself rationalizing the GO by trying to convince myself that it'll wear smaller & comfortable as it's a thinner watch, that being said I would be purchasing it on a bracelet as I like the flexibility of being able to wear a watch on a strap or bracelet.

I've attached pics, what do you all think? (BTW, my current 'collection' includes a BLNR, Reverso ultrathin duoface bleu, & a Speedy 3572.50 Mitsukoshi conversion)

If you have to rationalize and convince yourself...then it might not be the right choice for you/your wrist.

 

Personally, this watch does nothing for me.  I don't really like the dial ...I find it lifeless, and it might be improved if the date were eliminated. I like the simple time only Senators or the date and moonphase model someone had posted earlier far more than this piece.  Also, I really don't like anything over 41mm...they just become too clunky. However, you are the one who will be wearing it so if it puts a smile on your face...then go for it!  Good luck with whatever you decide.

post #2535 of 3942

For anyone in the UK, I was informed by a JLC AD in London that prices are to go up between 8-10% on models in the second or third week of August following the movement against the pound of late. 

 

Disappointing, but at the same time there is a huge disparity now between RRP in the EU/USA and the UK. I suspect all major brands will be following suit. 

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