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I definitely wouldn't turn my nose up at one of those.

And much as I like to wind up anti-quartzitic forum autists about their goofy Spring Drive quartz movement, there's no doubt that Seiko makes a quality watch. You have to respect their autonomy, even if some of the designs can be rather derivative. That one is more distinctive, and I like it; one could certainly do a lot worse.
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

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I definitely wouldn't turn my nose up at one of those.

And much as I like to wind up anti-quartzitic forum autists about their goofy Spring Drive quartz movement, there's no doubt that Seiko makes a quality watch. You have to respect their autonomy, even if some of the designs can be rather derivative. That one is more distinctive, and I like it; one could certainly do a lot worse.

The sheer volume of product that Seiko puts out (probably the biggest total collection of all the makers) makes some of their designs derivative by default. But they make some of the most individualistic watches around as well. When the "Tuna" launched back in the late seventies I highly doubt that anybody else would have the imagination to make such a product. ( Yeah, the PloProf existed:) ) In 1975 it was the first divewatch made from titanium as well. The kinetic and Spring Drive hybrids are similar stories with both good and bad, but Seiko is probably the brand that pushes advancement and technology in accessible watches the most. They make the most beautiful and probably some of the ugliest watches around, but they always make me smile.











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@chanoch - GO Senator Sixties is where I'd put my money on. I've had a love affair with the silver/white dial version for a while. Indeed I should've chosen that watch for my wedding watch instead of the JLC MC..
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

@chanoch - GO Senator Sixties is where I'd put my money on. I've had a love affair with the silver/white dial version for a while. Indeed I should've chosen that watch for my wedding watch instead of the JLC MC..


Right ho, rnguy001! But I can't imagine suffering with a JLC for one's wedding ... I'll try on the Glashutte this week and see how it feels.

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@chanoch  Take your time and really look to see what's out there.  There are a lot of watches out there that are great in their own right and plenty that seem to fit the bill of a black dial that you might be looking for.  My advice would be an older Lange Saxonia 37mm.  Just came across one from a search and it was just slightly north of what you're looking to spend.  Otherwise considering your Metro and how much you like it, I would agree with the suggestion of another Nomos.  Orion 35mm with the anthracite dial.  Otherwise considering what you're posted about legibility on top of a watch with Roman numerals, you could always go the Ludwig route.  Nomos did a special edition Ludwig inspired by teachers which is apparently still available through Wempe according to the Nomos Instagram.  It's a black dial with a blackboard inspiration and so the numerals and markers and such look like they were done in chalk.  I don't think it's exactly what you're looking for, but might be worth a look.  Not a fan of the two you suggested, but you have to wear it so get something you're interested in.

 

With regards to some of the other watches mentioned, I think the Senator Sixties is alright, but definitely without the date window.  Still it's in my opinion too big (and I would recommend you scale back the sizes you're looking at, but that's just a personal preference) and if you wanted a "60s" look you could just go vintage or maybe get a slightly older Rolex (which you don't want).  I'm just not a GO fan at all and I'd take any number of JLCs over one, but then I only own JLCs so I guess I'm biased.  Few if any Seikos do anything for me either.  It'd have to be pretty different or say a Japanese day window for me to get into it as every time I look at one I think "I'd rather just pay more for a better watch that this one looks like."  The Zenith or the IWC that someone else recommended are I think the best options mentioned.

 

Thanks for the write up of the Metro.  Nice read.  I personally LOVE the case and the lugs of the watch.  I think of some instrument like an old school meat thermometer or something when I see it.  I know that sounds crazy, but just love the case and lugs.  I wish the watch had more of a military vibe to it as a result.  The Champagner Neomatik has a bit of a desert vibe if you ask me, but then you've got that pop of orange which actually is great.  I guess it's the color of the hands on that one.  Would have preferred they match the grey.  I also love the crown.  Agree on the dial looking different colors.  That's actually a point of detraction on the Tangente Doctors without Borders which is the Nomos I want the most.  I would prefer it didn't look silver and rather just the cream.  Nomos do a nice date window, and I hate them on pretty much every watch.  Not a fan of the strap and I'd change it straight away.  Camille Fournet offers the option of that sort of spring bar you're referring to.  Movement size on the back wouldn't bother me at all.  I think it just looks different and actually works with the watch.  I also wouldn't think about Nomos going anywhere or losing it's appeal.  For the price and what you get in terms of design I think they're definitely here to stay.  

 

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I wore one for a year, while its not black like a Submariner or anything, it's definitely not what a lot of people have in mind when they think blue.

Here is an old pic of mine...it often looked just like this:

 

I see what you mean based on that picture.  It just didn't look that dark when I handled one, but lighting can make such a big difference.  

 

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I swung by the F.P. Journe Boutique yesterday. I saw the new and old dial versions of the Chronometre Souverain, and the current version of the Resonance. Though I've never seen it in person, I think the older dial is preferable. That and the Octa Reserve de Marche remain my favorite Journe pieces (not my pics):


The Resonance is great from a horological perspective but I think it would be a hassle to set and wind.

For some reason, I think the RDM would be nicer as a manual. And without a date window.

 

I just can't get into Journes all that much.  Totally respect what's inside them and like one or two of them generally, but the hands just kill them for me.  

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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Interesting combo on that GMT. The green really *shouldn't* work, and yet I think somehow it does.

But then when I clicked to enlarge, I notice....is that NATO hardware gold-tone? If so, then -1.

 

Not only does the green work, the gold-tone even works.  Might not be as good as steel-tone, but IMO it works in a vintage sort of way. 

 

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Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post

Life would be boring if we all had the same opinions.
I've yet to see a bracelet type watch with a NATO strap that wouldn't look better on the bracelet.

 

Black Bay is an obvious in my opinion.  Of course the vintage styling helps with that.  Still I think I prefer NATOs actually.  Of course a bracelet is always nice as well.  

 

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I agree about the brown shell strap on an Orion.  I do not even own a black strap as I love the way the brown shell interacts with the dial.  Wearing mine today (slightly bigger than 35 mm):

 

Looks great.

 

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

The 38mm looks good with the date, but odd without it. 

 

Not as bad as I thought it would, but prefer the 35mm myself.

 

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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

Lange Saxonia Thin 37 mm just arrived today in the Miami Lange boutique:


Price is $14,800. I think it's going to sell very well.

 

Looks great.

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Quote:@BLAUGRANA : Thanks for the write up of the Metro.  Nice read.
 
Thanks, much appreciated. I do love the Metro, even if those wire lugs make changing straps a pain. It's few design flaws are really minor, and it's very comfortable. Glad you liked my write up.
 
My search for a new watch to replace my father's old Rolex (not interested in another one ...) has widened a bit, thanks to suggestions from many of you and reading some old threads. Shying away a bit from dark dials, except for those where the hands are a bit thicker and clearer than that Portofino, whose hands tapered to a fine point and for me got lost. Am now looking at a varied range of things from Glashutte, JLC, Frederique Constant, and dear old Nomos (for something really different, that my beloved father would have shuddered at but which I love). NB: I like the Orion, but find the 35 a bit small and if I get one I would prefer to wait until the 38s have the newer movement with their in-house escapement, like my Metro.
 
As always, your thoughts for this relative new-comer would be most appreciated. Besides style, any guidance on the quality of movements would be really helpful. I found that article posted in this discussion by Belligero about the problems with the IWC automatic with the 7-day reserve very interesting.
 

 

 

 

 

 

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Out of those listed, I would go with the JLC MUT. Best combination of aesthetic and technical merit IMO.
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Congratulations on your new watch!
I think I can voice, we're all hoping for a glorious pic of it on your wrist!
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Sorry for delay!
These pics don't do it justice imo. Still really enjoying it.


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What do folks think about panographs? This Glashutte PanoReserve looks really interesting, but as I've never owned one, I don't know if the novelty of the design wears off after awhile. Anyone out there with experience of the PanoReserve or similar version, your thoughts would be most appreciated. Now that I'm off that Portofino, which also looked interesting, I am looking at a lot of different things. Seems to me that GO gets a lot of watch into a well-sized package at 40mm. And the blue and white hands work well with the combination of a stainless case and white face, I think. But does this pano design hold up over time (sorry for the pun ...)?

 

 

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Thread Starter 
Teehee.

Please refer to the FAQ on page one!

Personally I rather like it, especially the grey dial PanoReserve. But only at a big discount.

It will always be seen as a poor man's Lange 1, and to many a straight rip-off, but get the watch you like if the deal is right.
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Dear All,

 

I am in the market for a Portuguese Chronograph Automatic White Dial Men's Watch with white face and blue dial.

I would like to buy brand new; is there a retailer you would recommend? I do not mind grey market goods with in-house warranty, such as jomashop.

 

Thank you.

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I love that GO pano in that white/silver color. I thought there was a 42mm version as well but I might be mistaken.
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What do folks think about panographs?

I despise them.  As mimo suggested check the FAQ, or research some of our earlier discussions about them. 

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I have owned the GO PanoMaticDate for over a decade. I think the GO Pano series is the best option of all the ones you've posted. If it's still under 40 mm, that is.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Teehee.

Please refer to the FAQ on page one!

Personally I rather like it, especially the grey dial PanoReserve. But only at a big discount.

It will always be seen as a poor man's Lange 1, and to many a straight rip-off, but get the watch you like if the deal is right.


I see that I have stepped in it again -- thanks for pointing me to the FAQ. Not the first time and likely won't be the last. Looking at the pics of the Lange and the Pano, they seem different enough to me. I like the GO's implementation of the small seconds hand, but I wish they had bisected the main dial more carefully. As you can see in the picture, the seconds dial intersects between 24-25 and 35-26 -- I would have expected them to set the dial at exactly 25 and 35. But I like the concept. Another small knock; we don't need typeface to tell us what the power reserve is or the date. Seems a bit of eye-poking in an otherwise understated design. But I do like it, at least in pictures, and will see if I can find one to try on this week. I don't mind if folks think I'm just too poor or too dumb to get a Lange ... I like the GO's overall gestalt, and hope if feels as good on my wrist as it looks on my screen. I also appreciate the many positive comments about the movement.

 

I will also see if I can try out the JLC MUT Moonphase and the Frederique Constant version. The moonphase complication actually interests me a bit, so it's not a bad use of the dial's real estate. I like the power reserve better than the moonphase in the GO, and the manual wind is a big plus to me; but in the JLC and less-pricey FC version, the moonphase is nice. Seems I've come a long way from those oversized Portofino hand-wounds that I was interested in when I began this search for a new watch to remember my Dad. A shame they turned those Portofinos into SUVs.

 

Many thanks for all your comments and advice, as always.

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