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Dressed for work today, loving how quietly perfect this feels. 116000 (Click to show)

Just catching up on the thread after a few weeks around the Adriatic and northern Italy. Lots of well-thought-out posts to read; there's been some great discussion here lately. biggrin.gif

Briefly, I'm truly glad to hear that you're enjoying the watch! Maybe I'm a bit biased, but I think it's difficult to top that one as a high-quality but still-practical watch that suits everything. I highly appreciate the non-trendy nature of the 36 mm Oyster case and bracelet; they make a classic steel sculpture that seems to look consistently great on every wrist. (And I saw tons recently, as Italians are absolutely mad about Rolex!) It's not really a "cool" watch, but that's why I think it's the coolest in a certain way; it's just old-school, simple and good.

Enjoy, and wear it as the reliable long-haul companion that it's meant to be. cheers.gif
post #2192 of 3949
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Dressed for work today, loving how quietly perfect this feels.


Also late with the congratulations here, but this certainly looks quite nice on your wrist, mimo!

Can we expect a change in avatar? happy.gif
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I have been trying to find information on the time only movements Rolex currently uses in it s watches. So far, no luck. Anyone have pointers to an article or site.
post #2194 of 3949
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I have been trying to find information on the time only movements Rolex currently uses in it s watches. So far, no luck. Anyone have pointers to an article or site.

off the top of my head.... the only ones i can name are the caliber 3130, 3131, and the 3132 ... maybe 3165 too?
post #2195 of 3949
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Dressed for work today, loving how quietly perfect this feels.


looks good mimo!!
post #2196 of 3949
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off the top of my head.... the only ones i can name are the caliber 3130, 3131, and the 3132 ... maybe 3165 too?
Sorry. What I meant was descriptions and comparisons of the movememnts. And Mimo's watch uses a 2000 series movement, I think.
post #2197 of 3949
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Sorry. What I meant was descriptions and comparisons of the movememnts. And Mimo's watch uses a 2000 series movement, I think.

ah i thought you meant current no date movements....all the current are the caliber 31xx.

im not sure which rolex mimo has.... hard to see from the pic...but i THINK the 2xxx calibers are all for the ladies DJs. could be wrong...
post #2198 of 3949
Derek's correct. That oyster perpetual *should* have a 3130 in it.

I believe that our man mimo was jokingly referring to the 36mm case size as being a "ladies" model.

Not all of us have to compensate for ...other shortcomings, right mimo? LOL.
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I think Rolex lists it as a lady's model too(?). And IIRC, the dink had it reviewed by a woman as well. I wonder if something like this might have an impact on discounts and/or used prices...

Personally it wouldn't bother me one bit if Rolex or their ADs called it a lady's model.
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I think Rolex lists it as a lady's model too(?). And IIRC, the dink had it reviewed by a woman as well. I wonder if something like this might have an impact on discounts and/or used prices...

Personally it wouldn't bother me one bit if Rolex or their ADs called it a lady's model.

I don't think it would really affects discounts or used prices.  I've heard the early really small ladies Datejusts are tougher to resell and these days have a lower value as many women want a midsize or larger watch rather than a traditional ladies size.  Even if men were to move away from 36 mm watches, with lots of women moving up to 34 and 36 mm pieces, I don't see calling an OP a ladies watch having much effect sales, discounts, or value on 36 mm watches. 

 

A friend of mine wears a 36 mm WG Day Date.  He & a friend went into a Rolex AD in Europe.  His friend wanted to try a Day Date II, but once he had it on, he didn't like the proportions or fit.  So he asked the sales woman to show him the 36 mm version and she asked, "Sir, why would you want to try on a ladies watch?"  To which my friend wearing one in WG said, "Well if its a ladies watch, I'm definitely in good company with Presidents, athletes, and other famous men who have worn this ladies watch."  He said the SA got a little embarrassed and blushed. 

post #2201 of 3949
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I don't think it would really affects discounts or used prices.  I've heard the early really small ladies Datejusts are tougher to resell and these days have a lower value as many women want a midsize or larger watch rather than a traditional ladies size.  Even if men were to move away from 36 mm watches, with lots of women moving up to 34 and 36 mm pieces, I don't see calling an OP a ladies watch having much effect sales, discounts, or value on 36 mm watches. 

this is true... i bought my mom a ladies DJ a few years back for a STUPID cheap price.
post #2202 of 3949
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Yeah I was referring to the notorious Hodinkee piece in which she referred to it as such. It is of course the classic, actually larger, men's size, but now listed on Rolex's site under both men's and women's: the trend for large watches having reached the ladies too.
post #2203 of 3949
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Sorry. What I meant was descriptions and comparisons of the movememnts. And Mimo's watch uses a 2000 series movement, I think.

All models in the current men's range use 31XX movements with Parachrom hairspring (cal. 3130, 3131 and 3132), which are essentially identical. They all now have the -2/+2 rating, and the only differences are Kif vs. Paraflex shock protection and base plate diameter.

The important thing is that they're all extremely well-designed and well-manufactured movements. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

I think Rolex lists it as a lady's model too(?). And IIRC, the dink had it reviewed by a woman as well. I wonder if something like this might have an impact on discounts and/or used prices...

Personally it wouldn't bother me one bit if Rolex or their ADs called it a lady's model.
It's true that it comes up under the women's choices, and it can work well in that role to give an oversized effect that can make the wrist appear to be more feminine. I think they call that the "boyfriend watch" look.

At the same time, it's a mainstay of the men's range, and is still most definitely a man's watch; the design is arguably the man's watch of the past seventy years or so. In the same way that a disproportionately-large watch can make the wearer's wrist appear daintier by comparison, a traditionally-sized one generally tends to give a more grown-up and confident effect.

Y'know, I find that in real life, overtly macho-posturing watches usually have the opposite of the effect that the wearer probably intended when they're actually worn, in that they can come across as being a bit needy and insecure... unless you're both jacked and impeccably-dressed, like @no frills.

Conversely, a watch like the 36 mm OP isn't trying to look cool, it just is cool. teacha.gif
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I don't think it would really affects discounts or used prices.  I've heard the early really small ladies Datejusts are tougher to resell and these days have a lower value as many women want a midsize or larger watch rather than a traditional ladies size.  Even if men were to move away from 36 mm watches, with lots of women moving up to 34 and 36 mm pieces, I don't see calling an OP a ladies watch having much effect sales, discounts, or value on 36 mm watches. 
A friend of mine wears a 36 mm WG Day Date.  He & a friend went into a Rolex AD in Europe.  His friend wanted to try a Day Date II, but once he had it on, he didn't like the proportions or fit.  So he asked the sales woman to show him the 36 mm version and she asked, "Sir, why would you want to try on a ladies watch?"  To which my friend wearing one in WG said, "Well if its a ladies watch, I'm definitely in good company with Presidents, athletes, and other famous men who have worn this ladies watch."  He said the SA got a little embarrassed and blushed. 
Yes, I think sales people do their clients a real disservice when they steer them toward watches that simply don't fit. Back in 2009 or so, I remember a saleswoman telling me that the 36 mm Nomos Club I wanted to see was too small "for today's fashion", and trying to push their Panerai and IWC stuff on me. And this after I came in wearing my vintage Enicar from the '60s, which is about 35 mm and slim. I thanked her for her time and said that I wasn't looking for a fashion watch.

My tastes apparently haven't changed much since then. Although the last thing I need is another freaking watch, I still want a 36 mm Club!
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Yeah I was referring to the notorious Hodinkee piece in which she referred to it as such.
I certainly caught the reference. I think Hodinkee did some damage to their credibility by letting that gaffe get published, though they tried to backtrack later.

Forster recently wrote an article about the 116000 that I'm sure you've seen. Like most of his stuff, it's still a bit heavy on wordiness and light on substance, but it at least it gives a more realistic assessment of the watch. And the photos are nice, as always.
Edited by Belligero - 6/21/16 at 2:31pm
post #2204 of 3949
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

All models in the current men's range use 31XX movements with Parachrom hairspring (cal. 3130, 3131 and 3132), which are essentially identical. They all now have the -2/+2 rating, and the only differences are Kif vs. Paraflex shock protection and base plate diameter.

The important thing is that they're all extremely well-designed and well-manufactured movements. tongue.gif
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Yes. When I was checking Rolex's site, I mis-remembered and thought Mimo's was a 26mm OP. That does have a 2xxx series movement,
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^
Although the 2000-series movements from Rolex are incredible performers, even I'll concede that 26 mm is somewhat on the small side for an adult male. wink.gif
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