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I need to make my watch bracelet smaller by 3 links.  Am i better off removing 2 on one side and 1 on the other?  Or better to remove only 1 on each side and then adjust the clasp?

Try both and go with whatever sits best on your wrist and/or gives you the best viewing angle when you tell the time.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Dressed for work today, loving how quietly perfect this feels.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I feel the same way when wearing my Aqua Terra.

Looks superb, mimo. Congrats again.
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Monday morning in Hong Kong:
Rolex GMT 16700 today


post #2179 of 3944
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Nice size, as well.

Much agree. I recently tried on both the new 39 and 36mm OP (the same model as mimo's, which is great even though I would have personally liked to see it without the double batons). Having a 40mm Sub and a 38mm Mk XV, I was expecting to prefer the 39mm model and to find the 36 too small. But the 39 wore bigger than my Sub (due to the larger dial) - too big. And the 36 was just perfect - even compared to my two slightly larger watches.

It really is a handsome size for this type of watch.
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A few straps and the family ...



post #2181 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

Much agree. I recently tried on both the new 39 and 36mm OP (the same model as mimo's, which is great even though I would have personally liked to see it without the double batons). Having a 40mm Sub and a 38mm Mk XV, I was expecting to prefer the 39mm model and to find the 36 too small. But the 39 wore bigger than my Sub (due to the larger dial) - too big. And the 36 was just perfect - even compared to my two slightly larger watches.

It really is a handsome size for this type of watch.

Agree completely. I have a very similar watch (silver dial smooth bezel oyster bracelet DJ), and putting it side by side with my 114060 Sub, I was surprised how 'big' the DJ is in comparison, I assumed it would appear much smaller. 36mm is a perfect size for that type of watch.
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Haven't had enough time to cruise the forums in a while, but I've gotten a few pics lately that are too good not to share. Loving my Leica Q

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by SteveH35 View Post



The Opus V is like a relic from Atlantis. It wouldn't surprise me if it has one of these driving it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

A fascinating watch. Great pottery too.
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Originally Posted by BLAUGRANA View Post

 

Some talking points for me here as well as some questions.

 

As I noted the other, I'm starting to see that there is some inventory generally out there.  I'm also finding that a lot of watches that I've considered that are "limited editions" or that were only made in a limited run are still cropping up from time to time.  However one thing that I'm noticing, at least as regards JLC, is that there seem to be fewer "boutique" editions out in the grey market than there are actual limited editions.  I've noticed this with the Reverso Tribute to 1931 as well as with one of the Master Compressors.  For example I've not seen as many of the boutique edition "Rouge" Tribute to 1931 Reversos as I have the Thin Tribute to 1931 Reversos (with the Casa Fagliano strap).  Now the number is nominal, but I've simply seen more of the latter out there which I find surprising as they only made 200 of them total.  Again, I've seen the same with one of the Master Compressors.  One explanation could be that the Thin Tribute Reverso simply sold more and thus there is more potential for one to come up for resale.  However it has had me curious as to the production numbers of the boutique editions and if they actually produce fewer of those than even the limited editions.  Any insight that you or anyone else can provide?  

 

Some great commentary as regards dealers, ADs and how how they treat customers.  While I've never been treated poorly, I have encountered some poor communication and even lack of a communication from some grey dealers.  In fact one is well known and they failed to reply to an email inquiring not only about a watch they had for sale, but also about something else they sell.  On the contrary I've had great communication from other grey dealers who in the end I didn't even buy from.  I guess I'm just shocked at the communication at times from someone who stands to gain your business and they can't even reply to a basic inquiry.  I will say that when I made that recent trip down to Chicago that the gentelman that I dealt with at Marshall Pierce was good.  There was some "salesmanship" if you will going on there, but at the end of the day he literally told me "I need to earn your business" which I thought was great as he was quite frank.  Anyway, I'm just curious as to your experience with that AD who you no longer shop with and whether or not that manager knew who you were.  I mean if both you and your father had been shopping there for some time previously, and not only for watches but for jewelry as well, I find it rather amazing that he said something like that.  Did he know who you were as a repeat client?  It's one thing to say that there's already quite a list already which is fair if that's the case, but it's entirely another to send you elsewhere.  He could have simply said that the list is quite extensive already, but that he'd be happy to get you on it and that as he appreciates your business he'll see what he can do about getting you the watch at some point.

As for limited editions vs. boutique editions and the numbers produced, it really depends on the company.  Not all companies do limited edition plus a boutique edition. Some companies will simply do one or the other...not to mention with the exception of companies that are also in the jewelry business (Cartier, Bvlgari, Chopard, Van Cleef & Arpels) the boutique phenomena is relatively new.  Boutique editions are really something that have really only come about in the last 10-15 years (depending on the company), so there is not a huge amount of data out there.  However, at least my understanding is the boutique editions are often made in smaller numbers than the limited edition.  As for the Rouge Reverso, a friend of mine had an opportunity to get one of the last new ones in his country, but he located a used one in nice condition (with B&P) at a gray dealer, and decided since he wears the hell out of his watches, there is no reason to spend the extra for a new one. So they do pop up occasionally, if you search...but there could be a combination of lower numbers and it really being popular with collectors that make that or other boutique editions less common at gray or pre-owned watch sellers.

 

I think we have all had good and bad experiences with sales people at ADs and grays.  There are people who really seem to love what they do and they really connect with clients, and then there are others who are lazy, know little about the products and just go through the motions.  As mentioned previously, there are some great ADs and grays, who always treated customers well regardless of how well the economy and their business were doing.  Then there were those who regardless of past purchases, would screw you or other repeat customers because times were good and they didn't care if you came back.  

 

As for the AD I no longer shop with, yes, the manager knew me and my family quite well.  Its a family owned store from another state, and at the time we started shopping there they had just been open for about a year or so.  In the first year that I was dealing with them, I spent over $30K with my sales man.  I'm sure they had customers who spent a lot more than I did, but I was under 30, and could have had a long future of shopping with them.  I continued to shop there regularly and my sales person eventually became that store's manager.  He was a good guy and always nice to deal with, but I should state he was not in charge of the watches that came into the store.  One of the store owners was in charge of watches.  I had met him once or twice.  I would have been ok with the idea of him having the store manager say, "Look, I've been told the list for that item is quite long and we aren't sure how long it will take to reach you, but we will add you to the list and do the best we can."  Instead, being told, "The watch manager/owner said,we have a long list, and if you can find it elsewhere, that's what he suggests you do," which was a bit surprising.  I think the store manager was both embarrassed and uncomfortable having to say that, since I had purchase a lot of stuff from him.  Its not like I asked to move to the head of the list or for a discount on a tough to get item, I merely asked to be added to their list.   The ball was in their court.  They suggested I visit competitors...so I did, and I built a new long terms relationship with another AD.   

 

However, its not the first time I've seen AD's do something foolish or greedy, just because times are good for them.  My father had been dealing with another family owned store.  In 10 years he had purchased, 3 Pateks, 3 steel Rolex watches, 2 tutone Rolex watches, and 2 all gold Rolex watches from them.  We happened to stop in one day, and saw a WG JLC Geographic that he was interested in purchasing.  He asked for a price on it, and they gave him a price, but then one of the guys said, "That's an old price, so I'd need to mark it up, and then discount it."  My dad asked,"Why, clearly you purchased it at an old, lower cost?"  They guy said, "When we replace our stock the next one will cost me more."  My dad said, that's not my problem, thanks but I won't pay more for it.  They stood there ground on the price and we left.   My Dad did some research on line found another model he was interested in, ended up going to my "New AD" and bought a new platinum JLC 8 day reserve from my new salesperson.  Then 6 weeks later I guess his old AD had been sitting on their WG watch, and things were a bit slow, so they called and said he could have their WG watch at the price they initially came to using the old price.  At which point, my Dad said, thanks but I already got a JLC from another dealer. 

 

If the watch market continues to slow down, it will be interesting to see which dealers survive the tough times.  

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@SteveH35 stunning photography! That Journe with its officer casebook looks delightful; any more photos? 

post #2186 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

Much agree. I recently tried on both the new 39 and 36mm OP (the same model as mimo's, which is great even though I would have personally liked to see it without the double batons). Having a 40mm Sub and a 38mm Mk XV, I was expecting to prefer the 39mm model and to find the 36 too small. But the 39 wore bigger than my Sub (due to the larger dial) - too big. And the 36 was just perfect - even compared to my two slightly larger watches.

It really is a handsome size for this type of watch.
I guess you didn't agree with the rest of my comment, huh?
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Thread Starter 
Teehee.
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Originally Posted by SteveH35 View Post

Haven't had enough time to cruise the forums in a while, but I've gotten a few pics lately that are too good not to share. Loving my Leica Q Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)











Saving for a Q currently! Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

I guess you didn't agree with the rest of my comment, huh?
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Heh. I kinda did, actually. I both prefer watches without dates and Rolexes sans the cyclops, but the size thing was what I felt like commenting on, as it's a relatively new realisation on my part (that I would prefer a 36 over a 39mm OP).
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I was wondering...where the heck is Frilly?  

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