That's what I am doing, I am budgeting about 12-14k and I've elected to find 2 in the 5-7k range.
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The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre, Baume & Mercier and more) - Page 134post #1997 of 57106/6/16 at 11:16pmQuote:Originally Posted by Keith T
Enjoyed reading your thoughts on all those great brands, BLAUGRANA, There's nothing like going on a great "tyre-kicking" excurion to fire up the horological imagination. Been awhile since I've made the rounds like that and checked out a bunch of pieces in person.
I personally get something like a "window shopping high" when I'm doing it right
Sounds like it was a worthwhile trip. And certainly you've got some interesting stuff to think about before making that next purchase.
Well it was a bit rushed. I wanted to hit Marshall Pierce, Swiss Fine Timing and the Omega Boutique. I had two hours on the meter which was about 5 blocks from Michigan Avenue. The only catch after that was that Swiss Fine Timing was about another 4 blocks or so south of the other two. Plenty to see between those three places, but next time I'll skip Swiss Fine Timing (depending on what I'm looking for) and spend more time at Marshall Pierce. The catch there is that I'd be taking in the Langes which exceed the budget unless I go to the low end. So for me being somewhat rushed, or at least quick, didn't make it as "fun" as I guess it should have. I could have gone back and fed the meter I guess, but I wanted to get lunch and then get out of town. Oddly enough I'm thinking of going back this coming weekend...
Well I've narrowed things down, but a few pieces I want. I'll call on one this week for sure and see what a grey can do (which would basically be matching a previous price they had), but then it's a matter of making offers at another grey dealer. The concern I have is that I don't want to lowball too far, but I also want to get the best deal possible. I'm thinking of starting at 25% below list but the prices are competitive enough as it is so we'll see. I've had mixed experiences with some grey dealers even without discussing price as some of them seem rather impatient. Had one last week who had two listings for the same watch, but the listing I referenced didn't have an important piece of information in it and when I asked about it the seller wanted to move the deal forward regardless. Anyway, while I'm comfortable negotiating I'll be starting with an online offer and going from there. It's a well known grey dealer and I think they work with you, but we'll see.Quote:Originally Posted by Captm2016
First time foray into this thread so be gentle please. Anyway, I am thinking about buying an actual nice watch (currently only have fashion watches like Burberry Michael kors etc). But the thing is, I know nothing about the movements etc so I don't know if I'd "appreciate" what makes these watches so special. But I do love the way some of them look, specially BM Capeland, IWC Portugieser/Pilot, and Nomos Tangomat/Ahoi. I know the question of whether something is "worth it" is in the eye of the beholder, but I guess my question is, knowing basically nothing about watches, would a purchase of one of the above be justified just due to aesthetics? Or would I be better off just sticking to cheaper ones from fashion companies that I look the looks of?
Having read all of your posts and considering your budget I would think that you could do a lot more with your funds than a B&M and a Nomos. I mean that both literally and figuratively. You could get a nice Rolex and a nice JLC with that sort of budget. At the end of the day though you have to decide what you like. As others always note here you should get what puts a smile on your face. I don't know much about the movements myself and I could care less about an exhibition caseback with most watches as I won't even see it when it's on my wrist. And like you I'm very aesthetically drive, and no, there is nothing wrong with that. Fortunately for me the watches that I've been aesthetically attracted to had other attributes. What I would recommend though is taking your time and taking in a lot of watches. If you're in a market where you can see a lot of them in the metal I would suggest doing so. Having the watch on your wrist is so much different than looking at them online. They usually look better in person, but something else I learned was that the pictures online make the watches seem bigger than they are which lends to that as well. Anyway, I was somewhat in your position a year ago or so and I looked into a lot of watches before buying something. I have literally looked at watches online, the same watch, over and over and over again before I ever moved on anything. In fact I'm now considering a couple of watches, one I'd "written off" after initially loving it and the other from a brand that I used to scoff at.
Again, if you prefer cheaper pieces from fashion brands then that's fine. However I think you might find that you'll prefer a timepiece from a traditional watchmaking brand that give you not only great looks but also a great timepiece. You can get great designs at a number of price rangers too. You obviously know about Nomos. Still if you have to go with a piece from a fashion brand then go get one of these:
Just be sure to sell it to me at a nice discount when you grow tired of it. Speaking of Hermes, you can change the aesthetics of a just by adding a great strap.post #1998 of 57106/7/16 at 2:10amThere are fashion brands who try and ones who are just in it for the cash just like their sunglasses and perfume etc. As Blaugrana has said Hermes is one of the good guys. Montblanc and Cartier are a couple of other brands known for other products who make their own watches, Cartier especially has a real history in wrist-watches perhaps the greatest but I think if you go for Nomos they are not in your sights. The Slim de Hermes is at the top of your range price wise but Hermes make other watches with a modern aesthetic which are not as expensive.
There are plenty of less well known watch brands with lower prices whose style you may like: Autodromo (Group B), Fortis (Terrestis), Garrick (Hoxton), Vulcain (President's). Bang for your buck though I think JLC offers perhaps the best value of the major watch brands and they do make watches in a huge variety of styles and prices. Try them all on!post #1999 of 57106/7/16 at 3:13amAnyone following today's Christie's sale in NY? I happened to be in NYC last week and was able to attend the first day of the preview. A few interesting lots, and a few watches that I surprisingly didn't like.
Possibly looking at the A series Royal Oak or the jubilee
Hated the small sized Aquanut and Nautilus
Considering trading down my 38.5mm 1815 up down to the 36mm platinum if the price is right
The vintage chronos were awesome but IMO are now overpriced
Nothing I'm serious about but am monitoring the auction to see if anything falls into a "value" pricepointpost #2000 of 57106/7/16 at 5:28amQuote:For me, I'd have to really have a passion for something to spend $10-$15k on it. For that reason, I'd say it isn't "worth it" no. If you would simply like a higher quality watch that will last, get yourself a Nomos and spend the rest of the money on something you truly enjoy and are passionate about.Originally Posted by Captm2016
First time foray into this thread so be gentle please. Anyway, I am thinking about buying an actual nice watch (currently only have fashion watches like Burberry Michael kors etc). But the thing is, I know nothing about the movements etc so I don't know if I'd "appreciate" what makes these watches so special. But I do love the way some of them look, specially BM Capeland, IWC Portugieser/Pilot, and Nomos Tangomat/Ahoi. I know the question of whether something is "worth it" is in the eye of the beholder, but I guess my question is, knowing basically nothing about watches, would a purchase of one of the above be justified just due to aesthetics? Or would I be better off just sticking to cheaper ones from fashion companies that I look the looks of?post #2001 of 57106/7/16 at 5:31amQuote:Originally Posted by tifosi
For me, I'd have to really have a passion for something to spend $10-$15k on it. For that reason, I'd say it isn't "worth it" no. If you would simply like a higher quality watch that will last, get yourself a Nomos and spend the rest of the money on something you truly enjoy and are passionate about.
I agree that a fashion accessory for 10-15K$/€ must be special.
For quality; I think I would suggest Omega.post #2002 of 57106/7/16 at 11:21amThread Starter
Time to read the whole of TWAT1 perhaps? If not, take a look at DL's Best Dress Watches Under $5000 for inspiration. We never did get around to the best sports watches under $5000.
But the answer is a used Rolex Submariner*. Probably.
*(My incoming is not a Rolex Submariner, incidentally. Sigh. And I love that my TWAT Bros can thumb my "incoming" announcement with good humour after my consistent form for underwhelming acquisitions. You guys are great!)post #2003 of 57106/7/16 at 12:04pm
Those lists would be a lot more interesting without the New and MSRP limitations.
But as everyone has said, try them on and see what you like. If you are open without the bias of brand right now, trying on and seeing what you like can be really eye opening. You may find you like some $5K watches far more than $10K watches. It's amazing what happens when you try things on side by side without a preexisting bias.post #2004 of 57106/7/16 at 6:57pmpost #2005 of 57106/7/16 at 10:32pmThread Starterpost #2006 of 57106/8/16 at 12:37ampost #2007 of 57106/8/16 at 3:38ampost #2008 of 57106/8/16 at 3:43ampost #2009 of 57106/8/16 at 8:19amQuote:
It's up there with square toed shoes, as in something that seems so obviously horrific yet a shocking number of men wear.post #2010 of 57106/8/16 at 9:04am
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