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They are priced competitively after the inevitable 30 per cent discount.
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They are priced competitively after the inevitable 30 per cent discount.

Yes, I wouldn't pay retail for one, but after a discount some of their pieces are reasonably priced. 

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Thanks!  Yes, I like diving watches also.  Its another example of a purpose designed watch that has become mainstream.  They tend to be a great choice for active people as they can be worn for almost any activity or event, other than when one may really want a true dress watch. 

Blancpain, makes a very nice product, but for what they cost there is almost always something else I would rather own.  Not to mention, I do not like the Bathyscaphe, which I find very generic looking.  Around here, BP is a very tough watch to sell, or resell.  Most of my former local ADs were discounting them heavily as they just couldn't move them, and eventually they stopped carrying BP.

I like GO products, provided its not the Pano model, which I won't go into here, as many people here already know of my lack of love for that model.  However, they do make great products that are very competitively priced.  Cheers! 


I keep telling myself (and you guys): one of these days they're going to bring the 50 Fathoms down to a more reasonable size, right? If that thing was more like 40-42mm I would be all over it.

And I know the Bathyscaphe gets a lot of love, but it's never done anything for me, either. (Though I think generic-looking might be harsh, dino happy.gif )

To me, it's mainly just that the hour markers seem too small for the dial space, and I find the bezel a bit thin as well. But personally, I kinda like the hands and the dial itself. And when I tried one on at the AD, I was also impressed with the quality of the NATO-style strap. It was a big step up from some of the cheaper ones that I have used over the years (and still frequently employ).

Also, just to keep it real... that piece is probably over-priced by a considerable margin vs. say, a Sub or Planet Ocean (to name a couple).

Having said all that, would welcome any owners' thoughts or impressions after some reasonable amount of wrist time.
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one of these days they're going to bring the 50 Fathoms down to a more reasonable size, right? If that thing was more like 40-42mm I would be all over it.

And I know the Bathyscaphe gets a lot of love, but it's never done anything for me, either. (Though I think generic-looking might be harsh)

Also, just to keep it real... that piece is probably over-priced by a considerable margin vs. say, a Sub or Planet Ocean (to name a couple).
 

it they would bring it down to 43-44mm it would be quite acceptable; instead of that current satellite dish :)) 

 

the "generic" looks of Bathyscaphe are exactly the reason why I did not get it :)) I like the thinner case of it compared to other dive watches; this was the prime reason I gave it a look. The Rolex and Omega dive-watches are too massive; I'm buying a watch not a thick protruding bracelet. 

The new Master Planet Ocean (market start in August) should be better; great mechanism coupled with a new case size. 

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But all of Rolex's divers are smaller than 44mm, and can be worn on a strap...is a Submariner ever wrong?  And the Planet Ocean comes in 42mm as well as 45mm anyway, doesn't it?

 

I'm still very taken by the Tudor Black Bay in its (modern) original burgundy form, and a pretty reasonable price too that seems to have dropped another ten per cent (used) since the black one came out.  

 

Perhaps if you want something in the Bathyscaphe price range that's a bit more individual, you might want to look at the JLC Deep Sea Chronograph.  About the right size, very good looking and on a cool strap. 

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For me Tudor is a Rolex spin-off; or how to make money with less substance. I'm not saying Tudor is not a great watch, it's just that I would go for the original (Rolex).

Rolex Submariner is a fantastic product; if only it would be a fraction bigger (42 or 43mm; thus having a bigger dial compared to the massive bracelet). Second thing; I love transparent backs, to see the mechanism :D after all, I'm buying a mechanical watch :)) 

 

I very much dislike chronographs; I find them littered and totally without function. 

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Guys thoughts on the Tudor Bronze? Being offered it from jewelers for just over 2k GBP which is a great price! Comes with canvas and leather strap
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It is a good price, but I do have a couple of issues with the bronze: making the dial and the bezel brown, plus the unusual case, plus the unusual strap, and the size inflation...it's perhaps one or two steps too many at the same time.  I like the idea of a bronze BB a lot.  But this feels just a shade overdone.  Bronze also makes me think Helson, which isn't a bad thing, or Archimede, or something.  Perhaps that's just me.

 

I don't hate it, and I almost really like it, but I'd have to give it a wrist test first and I think $2k for a mint used red or blue BB looks like better value.

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For me Tudor is a Rolex spin-off; or how to make money with less substance. I'm not saying Tudor is not a great watch, it's just that I would go for the original (Rolex).

Rolex Submariner is a fantastic product; if only it would be a fraction bigger (42 or 43mm; thus having a bigger dial compared to the massive bracelet). Second thing; I love transparent backs, to see the mechanism :D after all, I'm buying a mechanical watch :)) 

 

I very much dislike chronographs; I find them littered and totally without function. 

 

Tudor is a third of the price, and the size you want.  But I get you on the "Rolex but not" thing - it's why I can't quite love the Pelagos, or even the great-looking BB Black.  The red one sings to me as being more its own man.  The one Rolex that meets your spec is the Deep Sea then, with a bracelet considered by some to be too small for its larger case.  No looking inside though. 

 

But, I think this is an interesting challenge: apart from the Bathyscaphe, I'm struggling to think of a diver with a transparent case back - an inherent contradiction in engineering terms, but I can empathise with your desire to reconcile it.  Still leading back to a 42mm Planet Ocean then?  $3800 new, available on a strap...what else?

 

OK, now I'm looking:

 

Tissot Seastar (man that's cheap!)

PAM 392? Love that 1950 case.


Edited by mimo - 5/29/16 at 1:43am
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now you have motivated me to look through the offer; actually I've got so hungry doing it, I need a snack now :D :)) (it's 11:17 AM here)

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The one Rolex that meets your spec is the Deep Sea then, with a bracelet considered by some to be too small for its larger case.  No looking inside though. 

 

But, I think this is an interesting challenge: apart from the Bathyscaphe, I'm struggling to think of a diver with a transparent case back - an inherent contradiction in engineering terms, but I can empathise with your desire to reconcile it.  Still leading back to a 42mm Planet Ocean then?  $3800 new, available on a strap...what else?

 

OK, now I'm looking:

 

Tissot Seastar (man that's cheap!)

PAM 392? Love that 1950 case.

The Rolex Deepsea is wonderful, except the thickness! it's 18mm thick (0,7inch)!!! one needs a permission to wear cold arms with that on your wrist. :sly: 

 

The Planet Ocean has great discounts everywhere, since an updated model is coming out in a few months; presented in Basel, the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean Master.

-an improved Master Chronometer movement; more precise and with highly antimagnetic properties (15.000Gauss) 

-new case size - the three-hand Master Chronometer Planet Ocean is 43.5mm wide

-new ceramic (or titanium) dials (nicer-looking than the outgoing lacquer dials)

-updated 6, 9, and 12 applied Arabic fonts

 

reference prices are 5.800€ strap, 5.900€ steel bracelet. 

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Tissot brand is not worth the typing time.

I agree completely and profoundly on what you've put down about Tudor :D 

 

Panerai? very particular; for another type of person. 


Edited by Nikolaus - 5/29/16 at 3:05am
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Perhaps if you want something in the Bathyscaphe price range that's a bit more individual, you might want to look at the JLC Deep Sea Chronograph.  About the right size, very good looking and on a cool strap. 

 

I think that JLC is a great looking watch.  At least the dial is.  I even love that indicator which would normally put me off.  What I don't like about it is the size at 42mm.  40mm and I'd probably be in for one.  Love that strap as well.  

 

I've been eyeing a very well priced Deep Sea Vintage Chronograph.  Just can't pull the trigger as I want a European Tribute to Deep Sea Alarm instead, which I stupidly moved too slowly on last week and it's now gone.  Really upset with myself for that one, but happy I'm not just jumping into another watch to "make up for it."  

 

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Guys thoughts on the Tudor Bronze? Being offered it from jewelers for just over 2k GBP which is a great price! Comes with canvas and leather strap

 

Not sure what MSRP is, but it doesn't sound like it's that far from it.  Either way while I don't mind the bronze itself or some of the styling, it's too big for my taste and I don't like how they added the "Exploreresque" or "Rangeresque" numerals.  Love that Nato it comes with though.

 

Like Mimo said, I'd be in for a standard Black Bay.  Red, Blue or even Black.  I like them all and can see myself getting one at some point.  Red or Blue more likely as I don't see many red divers out there much less ones I like and I think that's a very distinctive looking watch.  Blue as again I don't see many blue divers out there much less ones I like.  Blue would definitely be on the Nato though.

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One of my regrets.. I did a lot of bad choices on buying and selling watches, getting rid of the FF remains one of the top.. Highly recommend.. 

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and BTW, GO rocks! One of the best values around..

 

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And I know the Bathyscaphe gets a lot of love, but it's never done anything for me, either. (Though I think generic-looking might be harsh, dino happy.gif )

To me, it's mainly just that the hour markers seem too small for the dial space, and I find the bezel a bit thin as well. But personally, I kinda like the hands and the dial itself. And when I tried one on at the AD, I was also impressed with the quality of the NATO-style strap. It was a big step up from some of the cheaper ones that I have used over the years (and still frequently employ).
 

The regular Fifty Fathoms is a fine watch.  Just too pricey IMHO.  I like it, but after looking at the price there is always something else I'd rather own.

 

Hmmmm, you think I was harsh with the Bathyscaphe?  I thought I was being kind and generous ;)...I actually find it a struggle to like anything about it, other than maybe the movement.  I find the syringe style hands unattractive, the hour markers too small for such a large dial, the bezel is too thin.    Also not being a Nato-strap kind of guy, the quality of their NATO strap wouldn't be much encouragement for me to pull the trigger.  I personally find the dial and hands work better on the chronograph version in terms of appearance.     Still, once we get to price...I'd rather have something else. 

 

But if we all had and loved the same pieces...this would be a dull place.  Cheers!:cheers:

 

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Guys thoughts on the Tudor Bronze? Being offered it from jewelers for just over 2k GBP which is a great price! Comes with canvas and leather strap

Only buy it if you love it.  Too many people buy something because its a great price, rather than it being the right watch for them or a watch they truly want.

 

The use of bronze is different, but I don't see a real need for it.  I don't find it as attractive as gold, yet it still has a bling factor to its color, and its not as understated as a white metal.  So it has some of the bling of gold, but not its beauty, and yet its not understated.  For me its sort of an in between metal that I don't care about owning.  Also, I wonder how it holds up with exposure to being used in swimming pools, as I had heard that chlorine is harmful to bronze. 

 

A friend of ours, Frills, summed it up nicely saying something to the effect of,  "It looks like it comes with a free UPS delivery man uniform."  

 

However, if it puts a smile on your face, then go for it. 

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