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post #1171 of 4653
Narrowed my next one down to a GMT IIC (black bezel), SubC, or white dial Daytona (current model). This will be a counterpoint to a 36mm Datejust and probably the only other nice watch I buy for 5+ years.

Pros for the GMT: comfortable, far less common than the Sub, can be had for a decent price due to the BLNR craze, still as waterproof as I'd ever need (beach/snorkeling at the most), been eyeing one for years. It's some bling but not too much.
Cons: my only two watches would both have PCLs, so no true 'put it on and forget it' option, the bezel's #s are a little big. I would considering getting the bracelet brushed. No current need for the GMT function.

Pros for the Sub: the default do it all watch. The 'bubble' in the back of the case doesn't make it sit terrific on my wrist, though proper bracelet sizing probably fixes this. Perfect daily wearer
Cons for the Sub: the default do it all watch, even in my town where no one has nice watches, they are prevalent.

Pros for the Daytona: it's just stunning, in pics but especially in person. Perfect balance of elegant and sporty, especially in the white dial to me. Incredibly comfortable.
Cons: I have seen some reaaally beat to shit examples online and I want a daily wearer I don't have to treat quite like my Datejust. I know I'd baby this one. The consensus seems to be that the bezel will get some serious wear if you don't take great care of it. Also a good 4k more than the other options.

Which would you guys get?
post #1172 of 4653
Question for those who might have some knowledge/experience with this:

My good friend is looking to sell his mint SubC with date.......full set with box and papers. How much should he expect to get? He's not on any forums and has no desire to get involved in the secondary market, just wants to sell at the highest possible amount. I'm just being a goo friend and figured I'd ask here given the amount of collective knowledge in the TWAT community.

Any input is greatly appreciated!
post #1173 of 4653
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Originally Posted by Viral View Post

Question for those who might have some knowledge/experience with this:

My good friend is looking to sell his mint SubC with date.......full set with box and papers. How much should he expect to get? He's not on any forums and has no desire to get involved in the secondary market, just wants to sell at the highest possible amount. I'm just being a goo friend and figured I'd ask here given the amount of collective knowledge in the TWAT community.

Any input is greatly appreciated!

If he is not on any forums and doesn't want to get involved in the secondary market then who is he selling to? A dealer? Jeweler? That will determine price. 

 

For instance on the forums I'd expect to pay $7k ish for a mint Sub Date. A dealer/jeweler would probably give him $5K tops.

post #1174 of 4653
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

If he is not on any forums and doesn't want to get involved in the secondary market then who is he selling to? A dealer? Jeweler? That will determine price. 

For instance on the forums I'd expect to pay $7k ish for a mint Sub Date. A dealer/jeweler would probably give him $5K tops.

i haven't looked in a while, but 7k sounds high for a preowned subc. i think my buddy just got a new sub nd for around 6.5k.
post #1175 of 4653
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff View Post

Narrowed my next one down to a GMT IIC (black bezel), SubC, or white dial Daytona (current model). This will be a counterpoint to a 36mm Datejust and probably the only other nice watch I buy for 5+ years.

Pros for the GMT: comfortable, far less common than the Sub, can be had for a decent price due to the BLNR craze, still as waterproof as I'd ever need (beach/snorkeling at the most), been eyeing one for years. It's some bling but not too much.
Cons: my only two watches would both have PCLs, so no true 'put it on and forget it' option, the bezel's #s are a little big. I would considering getting the bracelet brushed. No current need for the GMT function.

Pros for the Sub: the default do it all watch. The 'bubble' in the back of the case doesn't make it sit terrific on my wrist, though proper bracelet sizing probably fixes this. Perfect daily wearer
Cons for the Sub: the default do it all watch, even in my town where no one has nice watches, they are prevalent.

Pros for the Daytona: it's just stunning, in pics but especially in person. Perfect balance of elegant and sporty, especially in the white dial to me. Incredibly comfortable.
Cons: I have seen some reaaally beat to shit examples online and I want a daily wearer I don't have to treat quite like my Datejust. I know I'd baby this one. The consensus seems to be that the bezel will get some serious wear if you don't take great care of it. Also a good 4k more than the other options.

Which would you guys get?

there is no question. always get the more expensive one if you are already considering it. you will just want it again down the road.
post #1176 of 4653
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Originally Posted by Akeem View Post


i haven't looked in a while, but 7k sounds high for a preowned subc. i think my buddy just got a new sub nd for around 6.5k.

I agree. Usually add about $1k for the date model. I would say $6.6k to $6.8k for a non-forum "dealer" on a Sub Date.. 

post #1177 of 4653
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff View Post

Narrowed my next one down to a GMT IIC (black bezel), SubC, or white dial Daytona (current model). This will be a counterpoint to a 36mm Datejust and probably the only other nice watch I buy for 5+ years.

Pros for the GMT: comfortable, far less common than the Sub, can be had for a decent price due to the BLNR craze, still as waterproof as I'd ever need (beach/snorkeling at the most), been eyeing one for years. It's some bling but not too much.
Cons: my only two watches would both have PCLs, so no true 'put it on and forget it' option, the bezel's #s are a little big. I would considering getting the bracelet brushed. No current need for the GMT function.

Pros for the Sub: the default do it all watch. The 'bubble' in the back of the case doesn't make it sit terrific on my wrist, though proper bracelet sizing probably fixes this. Perfect daily wearer
Cons for the Sub: the default do it all watch, even in my town where no one has nice watches, they are prevalent.

Pros for the Daytona: it's just stunning, in pics but especially in person. Perfect balance of elegant and sporty, especially in the white dial to me. Incredibly comfortable.
Cons: I have seen some reaaally beat to shit examples online and I want a daily wearer I don't have to treat quite like my Datejust. I know I'd baby this one. The consensus seems to be that the bezel will get some serious wear if you don't take great care of it. Also a good 4k more than the other options.

Which would you guys get?

There are arguments to be made for and against each.  

 

You said you have no need for a GMT function.  Do you have a need for a true diving watch or a chronograph ?  Most likely not.  100 m of the GMT or Daytona has you covered for any swimming/snorkeling.  The Chronograph function is a fun toy, and yes folks here use them to timing cooking, time on parking meters, and other things just as an excuse to use it, but for most its entertainment.  So is there one of the three that makes you smile more than the others when its on your wrist?  

 

If you beat the heck out of any of these watches it is going to show, regardless of whether the surface is polished or brushed. The Daytona bezel will look like sh*t after a few years if you are really rough on your watches.  However, you can always have the bezel replaced for a few hundred dollars.  

 

If your main concern is scratches being hidden, or minimized in terms of appearance, then go for the Sub C.  The brushed finish tends to hide scratches better than polished surfaces.  So no PLCs and no polished lugs (Daytonas have polished lugs), and the ceramic bezel won't show the scratches that a metal bezel will show...or you could wait and try to get on a waiting list for a Daytona with a ceramic bezel...although unless you have good connections your wait for one could be well over a year from when they actually reach our shores. 

 

As for Subs being too common...who cares.  If I walk into a place and I'm wearing a watch and someone else has one, I just think, "Damn that guy has good taste!"  ;)  Also, if you go with a black bezel GMT and your watch is recognized, it will probably be mistaken for a Sub anyway.  When i had a black bezel GMT...the few people that would notice & comment on it would say, "Nice Sub."  So to me without a 2 color bezel, the GMT loses some of its identity.  

 

In the end, all of these are great watches.  Get the one that makes you the happiest.  

post #1178 of 4653
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

I like Mimo's idea about buying for your wife and if I may suggest the JLC Reverso with your daughter's initials engraved on the back. Would make an absolutely amazing 18th bday gift..

As I mentioned earlier, I got my wife a Cartier Tank for xmas and she has shown no indication that she is planning on giving it to our daughter. I am the sentimental one of us...

 

The Reverso has always been very high on my list and with a bit more encouragement, I could be convinced to go that route instead of Rolex. I would have some reservations about wearing the Reverso on a regular basis for 18/21 years and the condition it would be in at presentation time though.

 

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

 

The dude wants a watch, let him...I take it back!  Doesn't mean he can't have a Reverso though...

 

 

 

See? This guy ^ gets it, why is my wife having so much trouble understanding why having several very expensive watches is a great idea?

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I have a house full of women, even the dogs gang up on me so it's 5:1! I'm not buying the hounds watches though shog[1].gif

3:1 here, and our dog has recently indicated that she wants a Daytona in stainless steel. Since my wife got the Cartier and it looks like a DateJust for my daughter, I think it would be cruel not to include her, right?

post #1179 of 4653
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Originally Posted by Cleav View Post

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I have a house full of women, even the dogs gang up on me so it's 5:1! I'm not buying the hounds watches though shog[1].gif

For me it's my wife, two daughters, and a live-in nanny.... do... do I need to buy 4 watches? ffffuuuu.gif
post #1180 of 4653
Make it 5 and I'll move in mwink[1].gif
post #1181 of 4653
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

If he is not on any forums and doesn't want to get involved in the secondary market then who is he selling to? A dealer? Jeweler? That will determine price. 

For instance on the forums I'd expect to pay $7k ish for a mint Sub Date. A dealer/jeweler would probably give him $5K tops.

Thanks!

I was thinking he'd fetch around $5K, so that sounds right. Of course, if he can get more then more power to him. There's a jeweler he has dealt with before and he wants to go in there with some intel to help with the negotiations, if any. He's just never sold a used item like this before so I can understand his apprehension.
post #1182 of 4653
Behold, the $6,200 G Shock

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post #1183 of 4653
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

Behold, the $6,200 G Shock

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Not a quartz man myself but do like all the functions of these newer gps watches. Some even have more toned down/elegant dials. Perpetual calader without ever needing to use a winder box would be pretty cool too with the solar powered models.
post #1184 of 4653
Congratulations to you and glad to hear everyone is home doing well.

It's interesting idea, but what if your girl when she's 18 or 21 is uninterested in watches or just doesn't like what you chose. I can tell you from experience that your children are not necessarily going to like the things you like. If you are ok with that possibility then I'd say just buy a watch you like and see yourself keeping and will be happy wearing until the big day comes around. If she likes it then she gets it. if not you keep wearing it.


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Originally Posted by bdavro23 View Post

I had something of an odd thought recently and since I can imagine no better group of individuals to share it with, here it is:

3 weeks ago, my wife and I had a daughter, two months premature. Everyone is at home now and doing great, thankfully, so I have some time to breathe. At the moment, I am breathing during the midnight feeding, so clearly my wife is much smarter than me... Anyway, I have been thinking about how to appropriately mark the occasion of my daughter's birth, and I thought a watch, with a twist, would be an interesting idea. The twist would be that I would buy a watch now that would be my primary watch until her 18th/ 21st birthday, at which time, it would become her watch. FOr some reason, this scenario appeals to me, so I wanted to get feedback on things I may have neglected to consider as well as thoughts on an appropriate watch. For whatever reason, Rolex has been in my mind's eye when I have been thinking about this idea, but I am not sure why.

So, thoughts?

P.S. I am slightly delirious at the moment from lack of sleep, so if the above makes no sense or is unreadable, please forgive me...
post #1185 of 4653
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff View Post

Narrowed my next one down to a GMT IIC (black bezel), SubC, or white dial Daytona (current model). This will be a counterpoint to a 36mm Datejust and probably the only other nice watch I buy for 5+ years.

Pros for the GMT: comfortable, far less common than the Sub, can be had for a decent price due to the BLNR craze, still as waterproof as I'd ever need (beach/snorkeling at the most), been eyeing one for years. It's some bling but not too much.
Cons: my only two watches would both have PCLs, so no true 'put it on and forget it' option, the bezel's #s are a little big. I would considering getting the bracelet brushed. No current need for the GMT function.

Pros for the Sub: the default do it all watch. The 'bubble' in the back of the case doesn't make it sit terrific on my wrist, though proper bracelet sizing probably fixes this. Perfect daily wearer
Cons for the Sub: the default do it all watch, even in my town where no one has nice watches, they are prevalent.

Pros for the Daytona: it's just stunning, in pics but especially in person. Perfect balance of elegant and sporty, especially in the white dial to me. Incredibly comfortable.
Cons: I have seen some reaaally beat to shit examples online and I want a daily wearer I don't have to treat quite like my Datejust. I know I'd baby this one. The consensus seems to be that the bezel will get some serious wear if you don't take great care of it. Also a good 4k more than the other options.

Which would you guys get?
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