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But seriously, I think they fit very different areas in a wardrobe. My Alden Wingtip boots are an overlap in color to a couple different shoes I own, but I don't really think of them as duplicate. I think CXL and chili boots are very different, especially if you shine your chili boots.

One is a totally casual pair that is completely comfortable with jeans or chinos but isn't going to dress slacks or more formal business casual attire. I wear my (natty) CXL boots without too much thought about weather, getting a bit scruffy, etc.,

The other is fine with jeans but really shines with chinos and dressier pants and many suits if you want to go there. I wear my Alden WTB's in lots of ways (I love them with jeans), but I do consider "what am I going to be doing out there?" when I wear them - I wouldn't take them out in the woods, etc. if I had an easy alternative.

As for what people see, I think it is more about you and what you're trying to present. I dress for myself - looking like I want to puts me in a frame of mind. The boots are part of an overall picture and more important as a detail to you than most people. Coco Chanel said something close to this once: "If a woman is poorly dressed, you notice the dress. If she is impeccably dressed, you notice the woman." Same here - little details are meant to disappear IMHO. (And I'm a dude, but whatever - the girls can't have all the fun)

Net: I think there are ample reasons to have both of these boots. They're in the same end of the color spectrum, but have very different roles. My $0.02.

Really appreciate this breakdown. Trying to gather as much insight about brown cxl as I can before September (im a cxl virgin, and this will be my first cxl experience)...this gives me something to chew on...Im thinking that if I just cant get past the perceived redundancy aspect I have with the two, then I may just exchange the dark chili for oxblood, and cop the brown Higgins Mill, and walk away with a win-win.
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Really appreciate this breakdown. Trying to gather as much insight about brown cxl as I can before September (im a cxl virgin, and this will be my first cxl experience)...this gives me something to chew on...Im thinking that if I just cant get past the perceived redundancy aspect I have with the two, then I may just exchange the dark chili for oxblood, and cop the brown Higgins Mill, and walk away with a win-win.

 



No loss in that.

One other note. When I say "patina-plus" I mean CXL is going to show age, scratches, creasing and even some loose grain and all of that is OK (at least for me). My CXL is kinda complicated-looking when you get up close in a way that little of my regular calf is. I've surrendered my OCD tendencies and embraced patina for them, and so glad I did (and can). It has opened up other doors for me (e.g. Shannon Drives, my McTavishes, etc.)
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Anyone have any experience buying Dabondo1 listings that are Very lightly Worn!!”? Are they essentially firsts worn outside once and then returned? 

 

He has a pair of black park aves that are marked as such. I would rarely wear, compare to my other shoes. I see it solely as a funeral, weddings, and if I change jobs an interview shoe, which is why I haven't bought a pair yet but I figure if I could make him an offer on them it could be a pretty good buy.

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Anyone have any experience buying Dabondo1 listings that are Very lightly Worn!!”? Are they essentially firsts worn outside once and then returned? 

 

He has a pair of black park aves that are marked as such. I would rarely wear, compare to my other shoes. I see it solely as a funeral, weddings, and if I change jobs an interview shoe, which is why I haven't bought a pair yet but I figure if I could make him an offer on them it could be a pretty good buy.

Check the sole pictures to get an idea of how much wear.  The word is he'll usually accept 50-75% of the asking price on offer.

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UPDATE ON CORDOVAN CATASTROPHE:

 

Allen Edmonds CAC called she was new to the company but she said it's just they way the 2nd quality is.  She waved one of the restocking fees for the inconvenience but they are going back.  I can't justify $529 for a shoe in this condition especially when sooner or later I can get them for 15% ($552.50) off at a store opening or maybe the rediscover America sale. I think I need to stick with 1st quality shell going forward. 

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Rubber soled Natty Leeds from Trunk show 2014.  

 

Given my extended rotation, favorites like this only get seasonal wears once or twice every 60 days.  (these are on the 511G last)

 

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Anyone have any experience buying Dabondo1 listings that are 
Very lightly Worn!!
”? Are they essentially firsts worn outside once and then returned? 


He has a pair of black park aves that are marked as such. I would rarely wear, compare to my other shoes. I see it solely as a funeral, weddings, and if I change jobs an interview shoe, which is why I haven't bought a pair yet but I figure if I could make him an offer on them it could be a pretty good buy.

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Check the sole pictures to get an idea of how much wear.  The word is he'll usually accept 50-75% of the asking price on offer.

I've bought a couple in that condition, one pair marked as seconds and one as firsts. Great experience both times, and full agree with sunstealer (aka Monty Burns?) - check out the picture of the soles. I'm pretty sure one of my pairs was just worn in a store/mall without carpeting for less than 30 minutes.

I have typically paid about 60-65% of asking, will depend on how many times they have been relisted.
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Where does the metaphor of the barn weasel come from guys?  I am trying to understand the connection. 

 

I got this one, fellas.  Essentially, FBWs are AE enablers, superpowered by the internets, high-quality cell phone cameras, and this forum.

 

The original use was by @donkeyhoatie in the old thread at http://www.styleforum.net/t/141581/allen-edmonds-appreciation-thread-reviews-pictures-sizing-etc/57510#post_7781808 (post 57514).  

I'm also including a quote of mine that has donkey's location of the original as well as the first instance of someone embracing it (I had misattributed the original source): http://www.styleforum.net/t/518090/allen-edmonds-appreciation-thread-2016-news-pictures-sizing-accessories-clothing-etc/2250#post_8371085 (post 2258 of the 2016 thread).   Incidentally, that quote also includes a purchase by our favorite ebay seller.

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I need a little shoe break-in help.

I've been wearing these Cornwallis for a few months and my pinky is still getting squeezed. I bought a shoe stretcher with pegs.

How long should I leave the stretcher applied. Should I apply some conditioner to "wet" the leather?

I marked the pinky with some brown shoe cream to know where the peg should land.

Thanks!





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The most often cited products for cordovan conditioning are Saphir Renovateur and Venetian Shoe Cream.  A while back someone did a side by side comparison which you can find here 

 

http://imgur.com/a/EC8gN

 

I found the comparison interesting, but the upshot is they're both good.  Some people swear by one, some people the other.  Just make sure you don't confuse Renovateur with Renomat.  Some people throw around the term "Reno" without specifying which.

 

The shortcoming of this comparison is that it doesn't show the long-term effect of either product. In my own useage, VSC and Reno both look great after initial application, but Reno fades and loses its nourishing look within a day or two, versus VSC which will last much much longer. The second best product behind VSC is Saphir's Cordovan cream IMO.

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I've bought a couple in that condition, one pair marked as seconds and one as firsts. Great experience both times, and full agree with sunstealer (aka Monty Burns?) - check out the picture of the soles. I'm pretty sure one of my pairs was just worn in a store/mall without carpeting for less than 30 minutes.

I have typically paid about 60-65% of asking, will depend on how many times they have been relisted.

 

^^^

 

I'm very pleased with my Carlyles I got from him.  

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I need a little shoe break-in help.

I've been wearing these Cornwallis for a few months and my pinky is still getting squeezed. I bought a shoe stretcher with pegs.

How long should I leave the stretcher applied. Should I apply some conditioner to "wet" the leather?

I marked the pinky with some brown shoe cream to know where the peg should land.

Thanks!





 

I've used a vamp stretcher and I add a little conditioner to wet the leather.  From what I understand, the leather should be wet when you use a stretcher.  Some people use solutions, but I think conditioner is fine.  Just make sure you stretch little by little.  You can probably leave it in there for 1 day and then check on it and see how it feels.  

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Question for the forum:  Last year, I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds shoes, in the same size I normally wear, but in a last I'd never worn before.  I tried them on, determined they fit, took them to my cobbler, had taps put on the toes and heels, took them home, tried them on again, and decided that, on second thought, they were a little too large.

 

They are in otherwise new condition -- they've only been worn on carpeted floors while I was trying them on.  I would return them, but the Allen Edmonds return policy says that they do not accept returns if the shoes have been "customized."  I assume that the taps would qualify as a customization.

 

However, dabondo1 exists, and he appears to sell shoes that have been returned with more significant wear than mine have.  What do you think -- is it possible they would accept my shoes if I tried to return them?

 

I am happy to hear answers from Allen Edmonds wearers or from the sales associates or other Allen Edmonds employees who sometimes contribute to the forum.

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I've bought a couple in that condition, one pair marked as seconds and one as firsts. Great experience both times, and full agree with sunstealer (aka Monty Burns?) - check out the picture of the soles. I'm pretty sure one of my pairs was just worn in a store/mall without carpeting for less than 30 minutes.

I have typically paid about 60-65% of asking, will depend on how many times they have been relisted.

Thanks for the replies guys. I just bought these a few days ago from him:

I get them Thursday. List was 189 and I paid $140. Offered 100 and he countered with 140. They weren't marked as very lightly worn but to me the sole looks like it hasn't been worn much to wear like that. I may wait and see how they are before grabbing the Park Avenues. Also the fifthy barn weasel in me wants a commando sole casual boot for winter walks to the subway and some tap sole strands for fall. Here's the Park Avenues:



They seem in very good condition.
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Hey Folks - After taking some advice from my foot doc, getting rid of several of my 65 lasted shoes.  I may unload them all at some point but not quite ready to cut loose on my walnut or oxblood strands as of yet.  The 65 has been giving my upper front foot some problems (sensitivity and pain).

 

My loss is your gain.  I was going to list my Navy strands on the bay but never got around to it.  I'd love to sell all 5 pairs below to one person and cut a deal.  I know the anniversary sale is going on right now, so I'm willing to make it worthwhile by including trees with the shoes as well as the original boxes and shoe bags (have them all).

 

Please PM me if you are interested and we can talk about a fair price.

 

Here's what I'm looking to sell, all in 10D:

 

Navy Strands

Bourbon Strands

Walnut Lexingtons with Dainite Sole

Walnut McAllisters

Brown McAllisters

 

Pictures are below.  I have more and can send them to you via a PM if interested.  The Navy strands were worn once, and I have the original black laces with the Bourbon Strands.

 

 

 

 

 

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I need a little shoe break-in help.

I've been wearing these Cornwallis for a few months and my pinky is still getting squeezed. I bought a shoe stretcher with pegs.

How long should I leave the stretcher applied. Should I apply some conditioner to "wet" the leather?

I marked the pinky with some brown shoe cream to know where the peg should land.

Thanks!






Well, don't know if the stretch will help. Your pinky toe should be 1/2 to an inch further back in the shoe! The problem is the shoes are too small for you.
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