If they're the 13Bs, I called them about those during the sale last month and got the same answer, so it might make you feel better to know that you're not the first and probably not the last to feel that same disappointment.
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Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc - Page 590post #8837 of 193287/16/16 at 1:44pmQuote:
I just get my hopes up for nothing but oh well. I think they have the khaki color McTavish but that one doesn't catch my attention as much.post #8838 of 193287/16/16 at 2:04pm
Anyway, hi all, my name's Bob. I'm from Pittsburgh and have a small but growing AE collection. I've been reading this thread for a couple months and signed up to show off the Strands that showed up today and became both my newest and oldest pair.
These are model 6175 burgundy aniline calf, and going off the catalogs on issuu (https://issuu.com/allenedmonds), it looks like they were available in this color from fall 1983 through spring 1986. Other colors of the Strand were available until 1991. The condition's pretty pretty good, even though they are stamped on the bottom with FR for factory reject.
All I did so far is straight lace them and wear them around the house for ten minutes. These are 13D and I thought maybe I could get away with it, but they are definitely too wide for me. I could probably topy them and wear them with wool socks in the slush this winter, but I have a pair of Clark Streets that are way more suited for that and I think its probably a crime in most states to treat shoes this nice as mudders. Tonight I'll get some conditioner on them and think about what I should do with them.
The main difference I can see between these and new Strands is the fancy pieces from the front and back come way closer together on the sides. I don't have any new Strands to compare them to so there may be more differences that I haven't noticed yet. As far as what made them factory rejects, I'm pretty sure it's because they are pinched kind of funny around the heel seam. It does make me feel a little silly playing the "why's it a second?" game with a pair of 30 year old shoes.post #8839 of 193287/16/16 at 4:36pmpost #8840 of 193287/16/16 at 5:15pmQuote:Originally Posted by AndyMiddles
Suede Saturday Maiden voyage with the bone snuff Maritimes. These run slightly narrow compared the 65 last. Since they don't have the EE width available, I was able to go with a EEE and still have a good fit when pulling the laces tight. I love the material and have received several compliments already. Pretty solid for $117 IMO.
I'm sorry, don't want to rain on the parade, but those REALLY look too wide around the ankles especially 😳post #8841 of 193287/16/16 at 5:18pmpost #8842 of 193287/16/16 at 5:21pmQuote:Originally Posted by parks1388
Is $40.00 too much for MacNeils with soles in this condition? I would plan on recrafting in dainite if possible to make this my go to casual. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
They would look this way also if you spent $395 and wore them a dozen times. IMO, worth a try especially as you figure out your proper fitment with AE. And I would pull a few more dozen wears out of them before recrafting. :)post #8843 of 193287/16/16 at 5:28pmQuote:
Thanks! The MacNeil is my shoe so far. 97 and 511 seem to be my best bet. 65 and the similar last are a no go. I imagine I'll own a MacNeil in every color eventually. It's like heaven on my feet. I just wish I could find a similar fit in a PA style shoe.post #8844 of 193287/16/16 at 5:33pmpost #8845 of 193287/16/16 at 5:35pmQuote:
Hey no worries, I agree with you. If you take a close look at the right shoe, you can see a slight bulge from my foot pushing on the right side of the shoe around the ball area. It stretches out the shoe and that creates a gap around the ankle area like you mentioned.
I just have really short and wide feet.
There is no heal slip or looseness while walking, simply the ankle gap where I can insert a few fingers. I tried 8E as well and they were extremely tight at the ball, 7.5 EEE is probably my best bet.post #8846 of 193287/16/16 at 5:36pmpost #8847 of 193287/16/16 at 5:49pmpost #8848 of 193287/16/16 at 5:54pmQuote:
No, the soles are in very good condition. The stitch channel is well preserved which means the stitches are all intact. The previous comment about same wear as a dozen wearings is correct. This would also mean the heels should be in good shape and there is no way the double oak sole of a MacNeil has worn through. $40 is a bargain for the shoe. The recraft option is up to you, but there is a ton of wear remaining in them as they currently are. Given the brogue, color and double sole, they will dress down very well as a casual option. Here is a similar shoe in black I even wear with jeans when the mood strikes. Brown would work even better. Now go and get them before they are gone.post #8849 of 193287/16/16 at 5:59pmQuote:
In my experience they are about the same. I have worn the Rogue (201) and the Regent Street in the 108. I found the Regent Street to feel slightly longer but the vamp was very similar. If the 108 works for you I do not believe you will have any issues with the 201 last. There can be some fit issues as even shoes made on the same last can feel different, but you should be fine.post #8850 of 193287/16/16 at 6:12pmQuote:Originally Posted by smfdoc
No, the soles are in very good condition. The stitch channel is well preserved which means the stitches are all intact. The previous comment about same wear as a dozen wearings is correct. This would also mean the heels should be in good shape and there is no way the double oak sole of a MacNeil has worn through. $40 is a bargain for the shoe. The recraft option is up to you, but there is a ton of wear remaining in them as they currently are. Given the brogue, color and double sole, they will dress down very well as a casual option. Here is a similar shoe in black I even wear with jeans when the mood strikes. Brown would work even better. Now go and get them before they are gone.
Ha! Thank you for your input and the tip regarding stitching. I PayPal'ed the seller, shoes should be here this week.
Great shoes! I pair my MacNeils in black with a suit most often. But I'm just a simple country lawyer so our rules are a little more lax.
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