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post #8296 of 17778
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Not pictured or worn this week: walnut Rutledge. Darn these short holiday weeks!

 

Can you tell me how your Rutledge fits relative to 511 last? Also nice "irregular" mora's hah great snag.

post #8297 of 17778
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Any suggestions on darkening certain parts of the CXL? I'd love to bring the caps closer to the dark panel.

 

 

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I've had success with mink oil paste (fiebing's), but after I found that solution I learned the Horween folks suggest neatsfoot oil.  If you search the thread you can see some photos of both.  Good luck!

post #8298 of 17778
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Looking for help.

 

I have wide flat feet.  I have been saving up for some Allen Edmonds and went to an actual AE store for fitting.  The SA that fitted me fitted me, initially, to the 65 last and fitted me at an 11.5eee.  I really wanted the 65 Last to work, because Park Aves are my ideal shoe (for what I was looking for) in terms of style.  Unfortunately, the balmoral mixed with the 65 made my the shoe look terrible on my flat wide foot, the laces could not be drawn anywhere close to tight.  The fit was okay, but there was some minor tightness on the left outside of my foot (plus top line bulge which, didn't appear to affect the fit but just looked unsightly).  

 

I tried on several lasts.  The 97 and the 511 were the most comfortable, but I didn't see a shoe in the last that fit my taste/need.   The SA then suggested i do factory seconds of the Lexington to see if a blucher on a 65 last would alleviate the issue i was having with tightness.  He didn't have a lexington to try because it is discontinued.  He had me try on another blucher which he said was as close as he had to the lexington, and it felt great.  

 

I received the Lexington's and they look great, but they are tight on the outside of my foot just before the ball of my foot.  I'm concerned they won't ever fit correctly. On the flip side, I'm concerned because I'm not sure there is a dressy shoe that will properly fit my foot and the Lexington definitely fits better than the PA and, at the pricepoint the Lexington cannot be beat, so I'm basically trying to weigh if the risk of it not fitting perfectly is worth it as there doesn't appear to be a dress-shoe option in the 511 or 97 that hits the conservative oxford look.

 

Any thought would be greatly appreciated.


If I'm reading correctly, the PA fit pretty well except for the instep.  Keep in mind that the gap will close up a bit once you break them in, but without seeing just how wide your talking about, its hard to guess how close the will eventually gap will eventually be.  Did you try a 12EEE? 

 

Other options to consider:  

 

1)  Shell Cordovan PA.  In my case shell accommodated my instep/width better than calf.  I think that the shell is lasted a tiny bit wider than calf, but others may know better than me.  There is an 11.5EEE available at the ShoeBank.

 

2) Try the Hopkinson in 11.5EEE.  The 201 is designed to accommodate a higher instep, and most people find that to be true.  It also has a bit more room in the toe box.  Pair also available on ShoeBank.

 

3) Try the new Exchange Place.  Couldn't hurt to try.

 

The (shell PA's and the Hopkinson's) seconds on ShoeBank are available right now, I also checked the AE website if you want 1st's they'll have to make them for you and you'll have to wait.  If at all possible go to an outlet location if you can.  They can order those pairs off the bank (or 1st's) for you.  The retail stores can only order 1st's.  

post #8299 of 17778
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Originally Posted by M2511 View Post
 

 

Can you tell me how your Rutledge fits relative to 511 last? Also nice "irregular" mora's hah great snag.

Sure - actually, I have a lot of them, so I like the fit.  I'd say they are most similar to the 108, which is longer and a bit roomier in the toes for me than the 511.  I wear the same size in both, but I might go a half-size up in the 511.

 

Toes:

For the 333 (Rutledge), the taper on the outside of the shoe is aggressive, so while they are fairly wide overall, I found that my pinky toe was a bit pinched on the first few wears.  Now that they are broken in, they fit me perfectly.  The 511 is very TTS, but for me is slightly short and/or slightly narrow; my smallest toes are slightly constrained.  I think it's more a function of being short; if I buy another 511 I will probably go a half-size up.  The 333 is long, but much of that room is ornamental.

 

Volume:

The overall volume is medium to high; more arch room than the 65 for example.  I've only experienced bluchers in the 511, but they have plenty of room as well.

 

Heel:

The heel on the 333 is a bit narrow and perfect for me, similar to the 65 or the 108.  The heel on the 511 is wider, perhaps the equivalent of a half-width up.

 

Hope this helps! 

post #8300 of 17778
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Just ordered these Grey suede strandmok 2.0's.... question..... What are some suggestions on a matching belt?

AE specifically mentions the Island Ave in grey. They aren't an exact match but they're meant to go together. They also have the Hampton Ave in Stone Grey that would be an ok pairing as well.

If you want a closer match to the exact grey of the shoes, Gucci and Marco Valentino make some that are close. Personally I like Gucci better, but the belt would cost as much as the shoes at that point.
post #8301 of 17778
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If I'm reading correctly, the PA fit pretty well except for the instep.  Keep in mind that the gap will close up a bit once you break them in, but without seeing just how wide your talking about, its hard to guess how close the will eventually gap will eventually be.  Did you try a 12EEE? 

 

Other options to consider:  

 

1)  Shell Cordovan PA.  In my case shell accommodated my instep/width better than calf.  I think that the shell is lasted a tiny bit wider than calf, but others may know better than me.  There is an 11.5EEE available at the ShoeBank.

 

2) Try the Hopkinson in 11.5EEE.  The 201 is designed to accommodate a higher instep, and most people find that to be true.  It also has a bit more room in the toe box.  Pair also available on ShoeBank.

 

3) Try the new Exchange Place.  Couldn't hurt to try.

 

The (shell PA's and the Hopkinson's) seconds on ShoeBank are available right now, I also checked the AE website if you want 1st's they'll have to make them for you and you'll have to wait.  If at all possible go to an outlet location if you can.  They can order those pairs off the bank (or 1st's) for you.  The retail stores can only order 1st's.  

 

1) I think it's a function that shell is tougher to bend/stretch than calf, so the lasting ends up being looser overall.

2) Hopkinson is a great recommendation.

3) In my experience, the 1943 is even lower-volume than the 65; much lower than the 201.

post #8302 of 17778
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Did anyone ever get back to you on the Firenze?  I didn't want to butt in since I don't have long-term personal experience with it but I'll give you my 2 cents for what it's worth.  I couldn't tell if you tried one on or not from the last post.  It is built on what I referred to in my guide for lack of anything better as the "large Italian" last - like the capri, positano, etc.  I cannot wear it.  They go as low as a 7D and at least to me they run an a full size long - they are longer than any other AEs I have ever tried, meaning I would need a 6.5 (a full size down from 7.5 brannock).  The pebbled material and soft sole give them a very casual look and feel which I also wasn't a fan of.  They seem fine for something like a casual wear here and there type of deal but I would imagine a sole as soft as that would wear down pretty moderately.  The predecessor, the Fiesole, looked better, dressier, and the lug sole would have held up much better.  I have two pairs of Lucca that I absolutely love - the lug sole is built to last for sure.  Hope this helps - I think with the Firenze they were trying to capture the look of one of the Ferragamo loafers and weren't concerned about building something for longevity.

Thank you for the info. I also noticed that it was more generous than my AE Verona 2 size. They felt comfortable and casual to me, but they don't look like they will hold up well.

I completely agree with your assessment of this loafer's Ferragamo inspiration, their Italian collection is meant to directly compete with certain brand loafers for sure. The Verona is also quite inspired by the classic Gucci loafer. I like the Verona enough, but after 3 pairs i'm ready to try something else.
post #8303 of 17778
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Originally Posted by Lobster33 View Post
 

My new Carlyle's in walnut with the old piping arrived this morning.  Having compared both the new piping vs. the old, I'm finding the old Carlyle's are a little more narrow in the arch with the V gap not closing as much.  I'm at about 3/4 an inch with the old piping and 1/2 with the new.  There's definitely some variation in size, and the newer Carlyle's fit better. Now I'm debating which one I should keep. 

 

So . . . if you end up passing up old piping in favor of new piping, is it OK if we poke gentle fun at you?

:rotflmao:

post #8304 of 17778
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Originally Posted by jet-stream View Post
 

 

So . . . if you end up passing up old piping in favor of new piping, is it OK if we poke gentle fun at you?

:rotflmao:

Please wait until after my decision.  :brick: 

post #8305 of 17778
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Originally Posted by jet-stream View Post
 

Sure - actually, I have a lot of them, so I like the fit.  I'd say they are most similar to the 108, which is longer and a bit roomier in the toes for me than the 511.  I wear the same size in both, but I might go a half-size up in the 511.

 

Toes:

For the 333 (Rutledge), the taper on the outside of the shoe is aggressive, so while they are fairly wide overall, I found that my pinky toe was a bit pinched on the first few wears.  Now that they are broken in, they fit me perfectly.  The 511 is very TTS, but for me is slightly short and/or slightly narrow; my smallest toes are slightly constrained.  I think it's more a function of being short; if I buy another 511 I will probably go a half-size up.  The 333 is long, but much of that room is ornamental.

 

Volume:

The overall volume is medium to high; more arch room than the 65 for example.  I've only experienced bluchers in the 511, but they have plenty of room as well.

 

Heel:

The heel on the 333 is a bit narrow and perfect for me, similar to the 65 or the 108.  The heel on the 511 is wider, perhaps the equivalent of a half-width up.

 

Hope this helps! 

 

Thanks it does! Im also curious how does the rutledge fit vs the 65 at the ball of the foot? Given my varying between E and D sizes I'm trying to determine which would be the correct one to target on ebay since i saw a pair go and instantly regretted it.

post #8306 of 17778
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Originally Posted by jet-stream View Post
 

 

1) I think it's a function that shell is tougher to bend/stretch than calf, so the lasting ends up being looser overall.

2) Hopkinson is a great recommendation.

3) In my experience, the 1943 is even lower-volume than the 65; much lower than the 201.


3) I thought about that when I mentioned the Exchange Pl., but maybe he could size up???  Just spitballing on that one.

post #8307 of 17778
@Lobster33 You are honestly considering a worse fitting pair for the piping? What if I told you I'm considering swapping the Carlyle for a strand on the 65....now do you think were related 😅
post #8308 of 17778
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Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post

@Lobster33 You are honestly considering a worse fitting pair for the piping? What if I told you I'm considering swapping the Carlyle for a strand on the 65....now do you think were related 😅

 

Yes, but I won't make the decision until later.  The old piping looks much better, but I'm afraid the V gap will never look very good.

post #8309 of 17778
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Originally Posted by M2511 View Post

Thanks it does! Im also curious how does the rutledge fit vs the 65 at the ball of the foot? Given my varying between E and D sizes I'm trying to determine which would be the correct one to target on ebay since i saw a pair go and instantly regretted it.

333 is substantially wider at the ball. I'm 11E in the 65, 11D in the 333.
post #8310 of 17778
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Originally Posted by ace13x View Post
 


If I'm reading correctly, the PA fit pretty well except for the instep.  Keep in mind that the gap will close up a bit once you break them in, but without seeing just how wide your talking about, its hard to guess how close the will eventually gap will eventually be.  Did you try a 12EEE? 

 

Other options to consider:  

 

1)  Shell Cordovan PA.  In my case shell accommodated my instep/width better than calf.  I think that the shell is lasted a tiny bit wider than calf, but others may know better than me.  There is an 11.5EEE available at the ShoeBank.

 

2) Try the Hopkinson in 11.5EEE.  The 201 is designed to accommodate a higher instep, and most people find that to be true.  It also has a bit more room in the toe box.  Pair also available on ShoeBank.

 

3) Try the new Exchange Place.  Couldn't hurt to try.

 

The (shell PA's and the Hopkinson's) seconds on ShoeBank are available right now, I also checked the AE website if you want 1st's they'll have to make them for you and you'll have to wait.  If at all possible go to an outlet location if you can.  They can order those pairs off the bank (or 1st's) for you.  The retail stores can only order 1st's.  

Thanks for the insight.  I just slipped the Lexington off and could swear I heard my feet rejoice.  Thinking I need to come to terms with the situation and send them back.

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