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post #7831 of 19327
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Originally Posted by FranklinMadison View Post
 

I consider Merlot to be more conservative than the shades of burgundy (such as the regular AE calf burgundy color that they now rarely sell) which is more red than purple.  The darker, more eggplant-y merlot is less flashy with a dark business suit.

 

A question for the forum: If you purchase a pair of shoes at a brick and mortar store, and later wish to return them for a different size, does the salesperson who sold you your pair lose their commission?  Does that only occur if you return for a refund, without exchanging them?

 

 

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Originally Posted by lvrpl View Post


Hmm, this is very helpful, thanks. You've really got me considering that perhaps I should buy the merlot Strands today (with the added bonus of their current sale price of $237). I suppose I said versatility is important because I'd want to be able to wear these with most, if not all, of my trousers. But all my trousers are either gray or nave (with the exception of one taupe pair that I rarely wear), and so with that, I see what you're saying that merlot probably goes with my wardrobe better (or just as well) as chili or oxblood.

I guess that for some reason my impression was that the merlot was less neutral than chili or oxblood - I guess I had that wrong? And I dress moderately conservative at work, but not necessarily super conservative (put it this way - I regularly wear my walnut Strands and bourbon Fifth Avenues, and rarely a tie or jacket, so I'm not at the far extreme of conservative I would say).

With all that said, does anyone think that going with merlot Strands would be a mistake for me (or rather, that one of the other colors in a Strand or McAllister would be better)? Thanks again for the help.

 

 

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Originally Posted by amphillips79 View Post


Personally, I love the look of the dark chili McAllister over the merlot McAllister. Both are extremely versatile, but personally I just like the look of the dark chili with navy pants, jeans, and beige/tan pants a little better. I'd trade in my pair of Merlot in a heartbeat for one of the dark chili :-)


Everyone has different tastes as amphillips has pointed out. But, as Franklin said, the Merlot color is actually the more conservative of the burgundy options. I prefer Merlot to Oxblood precisely because it is more conservative, but still not black. I'll post a photo tomorrow, as I plan to wear Merlot Strands with med gray trousers.

post #7832 of 19327
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Originally Posted by mreams99 View Post

You may remember the story I relayed on Father's Day. My autistic son was scammed out of nearly $400 trying to help someone out. My son needed that money for rent, and I decided I should help him out rather than buy some shoes that I had been eyeing. It was Father's Day, after all.
Well, it seems that this story was noticed by someone at AE.

They look and fit great!
I'm not sure that I should mention names here. I want to offer a great big "thank you!" to all of those at Allen Edmonds who made this happen.
This is a new reason why I appreciate Allen Edmonds.

That's awesome!

post #7833 of 19327
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Originally Posted by rbf1138 View Post
 

 

 

 

I decided to try the 7D Strands and 6.5E McAllisters (both in Merlot) on again tonight. Well, the McAllisters felt a bit better than they did yesterday but I don't like their look quite as much as the Strands. I then put the Strands back on, and while they still felt good to me, I noticed the dreaded "bowing" on the left shoe only. Pictured here:

 

 

 

Called AE to see if I could exchange the 7D Merlot Strands for a 6.5E but of course they were a special-made shoe for their recent sale and they don't have them and wont be making them in my size again. I'll only be wearing these shoes a few times a year for formal events, and who is going to notice that, right? As an additional note, I tried bar-lacing them and they didn't pull as snug as I wanted, then I tried whatever free-style lacing is pictured and they were better. Perhaps I could lace them a better way and they'd feel better AND fix that bowing?

 

So now I have to decide between the McAllisters which seem to fit ever-so-slightly better or the left-shoe-bowing Strands which I love. :(

 

I'm pretty new to this whole thing, can I ask why the bowing is undesirable?  Is it just an aesthetic thing, or does it bode poorly for how the shoe will wear/fit going forward?  I ask because I bought the merlot Strands as my first pair of AE, and they feel great but definitely have the same issue.

post #7834 of 19327
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Originally Posted by domer View Post

I'm pretty new to this whole thing, can I ask why the bowing is undesirable?  Is it just an aesthetic thing, or does it bode poorly for how the shoe will wear/fit going forward?  I ask because I bought the merlot Strands as my first pair of AE, and they feel great but definitely have the same issue.
Entirely aesthetic. Well, I suppose you could make a convoluted argument about the bowing placing flex stress on the leather, but that's a pretty attenuated risk. I have a pair or two with which I wear wider trousers to cover the fairly extreme bowing. The picture here, as with another couple of my pairs, will be covered by any trousers. Mine also disappears with certain foot angles. It seems to be poor placement of one quarter when constructing the pattern (other theories have included insufficient lasting time or grabbing the wrong size cut of leather). In general, I have found bowing to reduce (but not go away completely) with wear, as the foot sinks into the insole.
post #7835 of 19327
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Originally Posted by domer View Post
 

 

I'm pretty new to this whole thing, can I ask why the bowing is undesirable?  Is it just an aesthetic thing, or does it bode poorly for how the shoe will wear/fit going forward?  I ask because I bought the merlot Strands as my first pair of AE, and they feel great but definitely have the same issue.

 

When I had a significant bowing (could put my finger in it) on my Shannon Drives, I called AE and sent them pictures.  The SA instantly said the shoes were improperly lasted and replaced them.

 

I'm not sure what they'd call a small bowing, but generally I'd say it is a signed of either an imperfect fit or some degree of lasting issue.  No idea if there are any wearability or durability impacts.

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Waxy Brown Wednesday!

 

post #7837 of 19327
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Originally Posted by M635Guy View Post
 

 

When I had a significant bowing (could put my finger in it) on my Shannon Drives, I called AE and sent them pictures.  The SA instantly said the shoes were improperly lasted and replaced them.

 

I'm not sure what they'd call a small bowing, but generally I'd say it is a signed of either an imperfect fit or some degree of lasting issue.  No idea if there are any wearability or durability impacts.

 

Question:  What would you guys do if you received Cordovan Park Avenues from the Shoebank for $399?  Keep or return?  

 

The left shoe has bowing and the right one does not.  Like Naspratt, my trousers will cover this flaw as well and you'll only see it if I'm sitting down with my feet flat on the floor. 

I don't like the left shoe bowing, but I love the Shell PAs for 399.

post #7838 of 19327
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Originally Posted by orange fury View Post

Speaking of 1776's...

...decided that the liner separation issue was going to bother me too much, so I took the shoes into the AE store I frequent to place an order for an exchange. Coincidentally, they had apparently just put out on display a new pair of 1776's that they received this afternoon, in my size. The asst manager took one look at my shoes and told me they never should've shipped mine to me in the first place based on the eyelets alone, much less the lining issue. She offered to exchange them on the spot for the pair they put on display, which had absolutely zero issues. AE customer service wins again:

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Very, very happy with these- and now I'll get to wear them Friday

 

River Oaks store?  Those folks are great.

post #7839 of 19327
If you otherwise love them, and the gaping is only visible when you are seated, with your feet on the floor, then I would keep them. The amount of time in which you are seated, feet on the floor, and not at a desk or table that would hide your shoes is likely very small. And most of the time you are in such a situation, people are not looking at your feet closely enough to judge the fit of your shoes. If the other flaws in the shoes are very minor, I would keep them.

Do you have two differently-sized feet (as I do)?
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Originally Posted by Shoes4play View Post

Question:  What would you guys do if you received Cordovan Park Avenues from the Shoebank for $399?  Keep or return?  

The left shoe has bowing and the right one does not.  Like Naspratt, my trousers will cover this flaw as well and you'll only see it if I'm sitting down with my feet flat on the floor. 
I don't like the left shoe bowing, but I love the Shell PAs for 399.
post #7840 of 19327
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Originally Posted by tkebh979 View Post

River Oaks store?  Those folks are great.

Yep! They've always been a huge help to me.
post #7841 of 19327
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Originally Posted by Shoes4play View Post

Question:  What would you guys do if you received Cordovan Park Avenues from the Shoebank for $399?  Keep or return?  

The left shoe has bowing and the right one does not.  Like Naspratt, my trousers will cover this flaw as well and you'll only see it if I'm sitting down with my feet flat on the floor. 
I don't like the left shoe bowing, but I love the Shell PAs for 399.

Shell. 399. Invisible the majority of the time.

This is what I'd consider a no-brainer. YMMV. wink.gif
post #7842 of 19327
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Originally Posted by mreams99 View Post

You may remember the story I relayed on Father's Day. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
My autistic son was scammed out of nearly $400 trying to help someone out. My son needed that money for rent, and I decided I should help him out rather than buy some shoes that I had been eyeing. It was Father's Day, after all.
Well, it seems that this story was noticed by someone at AE.

They look and fit great!
I'm not sure that I should mention names here. I want to offer a great big "thank you!" to all of those at Allen Edmonds who made this happen.
This is a new reason why I appreciate Allen Edmonds.

 

Great story! Judging by how easily you decided to put your son first, this could not have gone to a more deserving person. Happy belated father's day to you and major props to AE!!

post #7843 of 19327
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Originally Posted by BespokeBrooklyn View Post

If you otherwise love them, and the gaping is only visible when you are seated, with your feet on the floor, then I would keep them. The amount of time in which you are seated, feet on the floor, and not at a desk or table that would hide your shoes is likely very small. And most of the time you are in such a situation, people are not looking at your feet closely enough to judge the fit of your shoes. If the other flaws in the shoes are very minor, I would keep them.

Do you have two differently-sized feet (as I do)?

 

I didn't think so, but then again I haven't measured them.  Most of my AE's don't have the bowing problem, but when they do it's always the left shoe.

 

Thanks for the advice.  

post #7844 of 19327
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Originally Posted by armedferret View Post


Shell. 399. Invisible the majority of the time.

This is what I'd consider a no-brainer. YMMV. wink.gif

 

Thanks for the advice.  I was leaning towards keeping these because of the price.  Furthermore, I'm only wearing these to funerals, weddings, formal events, etc.

post #7845 of 19327
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Originally Posted by orange fury View Post

Yep! They've always been a huge help to me.


They really are great at that store...she (we'll call her J ...lol) is very, very cool, and will help you out whenever she realistically can. Ive always thought she deserved special recognition.
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