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I'm speaking blasphemy, but I need less shoes. I'm still squeaking in these Daltons. In theory, if I had less shoes these would have already broken in, however, I'd have less shoes. Maybe I need more feet instead?
post #6617 of 17678
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Originally Posted by DustinM View Post

Friends, would appreciate any input as it relates to fit on my recent purchase. There's a bit of bowing on both Strand firsts and McTavish seconds. I was measured 10D brannock and these are both that size.

I don't know if this is caused by:
-incorrect size/width
-the anatomy of my foot relative to the 5 last
-shoe defect (perhaps in the case of the McT)




Also below is a pic of my existing Cliftons in 10D, purchased at Nordstrom. I never realized there is a bit of a gap but they otherwise are comfortable and seem to fit well.
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Appreciate any thoughts!

the bowing looks to be caused by your feet being flat. The Brannock device measures your foot heel-toe-toe and heel-to-ball, but it makes a lot of assumptions about your feet (average instep, narrower at the mid-foot than at the ball, etc). I would try going to an E width- possibly a half-size down, if you don't want too much volume in front. You seem like a good candidate for arch support inserts, as well. you may need the E width to accommodate the insert, but it would definitely straighten the top line.

post #6618 of 17678
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Originally Posted by harlequin782 View Post

People (including me) complain about AE'S shortfalls, but I must say, right now they are on roll...they have a helluva lineup right now, and I honestly feel like I could easily blow several thousands of dollars without regret, if I had it to spend at the moment.

At the $245-$275 price point of the sales over the last few months, there's nothing else out there that can touch AE.  At full list price ($395), valid arguments can be made either way as to whether it's worth it to spend a little more and go Alden or Carmina.  But not at these prices.

post #6619 of 17678
Does anyone know if the Amex rebate offer is still in effect? Thanks.
post #6620 of 17678
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Originally Posted by Lobster33 View Post
 

I was helping remodel a new house today that I'll be moving to soon, and to make a long story short, I wore my Brooke's running shoes for most of the day.  These shoes were fine to wear when I was younger, but wow, they do not give great support.  My feet are in a bit of pain now and I'm going to need to find another shoe to remodel in.  I'm strongly considering ordering a Freiburg for $107 and using it as a shoe that I don't mind if it gets a bit messy.   It blows my mind that my hard insole Carlyle's do not bother my feet, even when standing for hours, but my Brooke's running shoes cause me lots of foot pain.   I'll probably get attacked for this post, but please keep in mind, I see nothing wrong with buying one shoe/boot that can be my "dirty" shoe.

 

 

There's nothing wrong with buying a "dirty" shoe/boot from AE. However, I don't think the Freiburg fits the bill. Maybe if it came with a lug sole. But, if I'm remembering right, it's just a leather sole. If you're going to do any kind of real work in it, you need traction and protection.

 

In all honesty, though, you'd be better served going with a true work boot of some sort. If you're doing anything around a remodel site, you'll want to have the best kind of sole possible. Ever stepped on a nail with just regular running shoes on? Yeah, it sucks. Accidents happen all the time on sites, and having work boots on can mean the difference between a laughable near miss and serious injury. I'm not saying that you need something steel-toed, but go with as thick a sole as you can. The first time you step on something, you'll be grateful. And, they're far more comfortable than you might think. I'm still working with the same, no-name waterproof, steel-toe boots I picked up 12 years ago from some big-box store. They're nearing the end of their usefulness, and I'll be moving up to something from Red Wing or another comparable brand at that point, as I tend to do a lot of project-based work in my garage these days and am usually the guy that gets called upon to help for construction projects.

TL/DR: Get the Freiburg as a beater for white collar situations. Anything blue collar requires something closer to a true work boot.

post #6621 of 17678
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Originally Posted by donkeyhoatie View Post
 

 

 

There's nothing wrong with buying a "dirty" shoe/boot from AE. However, I don't think the Freiburg fits the bill. Maybe if it came with a lug sole. But, if I'm remembering right, it's just a leather sole. If you're going to do any kind of real work in it, you need traction and protection.

 

In all honesty, though, you'd be better served going with a true work boot of some sort. If you're doing anything around a remodel site, you'll want to have the best kind of sole possible. Ever stepped on a nail with just regular running shoes on? Yeah, it sucks. Accidents happen all the time on sites, and having work boots on can mean the difference between a laughable near miss and serious injury. I'm not saying that you need something steel-toed, but go with as thick a sole as you can. The first time you step on something, you'll be grateful. And, they're far more comfortable than you might think. I'm still working with the same, no-name waterproof, steel-toe boots I picked up 12 years ago from some big-box store. They're nearing the end of their usefulness, and I'll be moving up to something from Red Wing or another comparable brand at that point, as I tend to do a lot of project-based work in my garage these days and am usually the guy that gets called upon to help for construction projects.

TL/DR: Get the Freiburg as a beater for white collar situations. Anything blue collar requires something closer to a true work boot.

I appreciate you taking some time to respond.  The biggest hazard I'm dealing with is nails and paint, etc (not like construction work).  I've read the Freiburg has a double leather sole, but I don't know what kind of insole it has (regular leather?).   It also appears to have a rubber tread which might provide more protection. I also am aware it's on the 201 last, which would be new for me.  But for $107, I don't feel like it's much to lose, and I know I won't have to worry about comfort and support with AE.

post #6622 of 17678
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Originally Posted by Lobster33 View Post
 

I appreciate you taking some time to respond.  The biggest hazard I'm dealing with is nails and paint, etc (not like construction work).  I've read the Freiburg has a double leather sole, but I don't know what kind of insole it has (regular leather?).   It also appears to have a rubber tread which might provide more protection. I also am aware it's on the 201 last, which would be new for me.  But for $107, I don't feel like it's much to lose, and I know I won't have to worry about comfort and support with AE.

 

 

Have you thought about the Sturgis?  They're essentially a Wolverine 1000-mile with a lug sole (more or less).  I *LOVE* mine; they're my go-to for recent wet-weather ridiculousness we've had in the DC/MD/VA area (seriously, like a friggin MONTH of rain and now tropical storms on the way).  Plus i've managed to get more than a few scuffs here and there on 'em....clean right up with a wipe of Doc Marten's or other beeswax-based conditioner.  I think they're around 150-ish on clearance now, although sizes tend to be a bit more sparse now than they were a month ago.

 

 

Edit, because #picthread :D

 

post #6623 of 17678
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Originally Posted by ace13x View Post
 

 

I think I would try on a Strand in a 10.5D and see if that improves it.  If its not to long in front of your toes that may be a better fit.  Some people don't size the same blucher vs. balmoral. Its possible that the shoe wasn't lasted correctly, but the probability of that diminishes with 2 pairs (3 if you count the Cliftons).  Did you brannock yourself or did they do that at Nordstrom when you got the Cliftons? If its at all possible try to go to an AE store and get a fit by them, they may have a better idea how to relate the readings off the Brannock (Length, Ball to heal, and width) to the 65 last.  That is assuming you get a knowledgable SA.

 

There is also this post #8732 that quotes Paul G. and discusses lasting issues.  The post preceding it shows a similar situation to yours.

 

 

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Originally Posted by RTD1 View Post
 


If you're a 10D on the Brannock, do yourself a favor and get 10E for any AE shoes on the 5 last.

 

 

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Originally Posted by flaminiom View Post


How do the sides/ toplines look without feet in them? Do they bulge similarly? Are you using shoe trees and given the shoes a rest between wears?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post
 

 

Dustin,

 

Are the two pictured on the 5 last brand new?  Or have you worn them for a while?

 

If the former, you may need a more narrow width.  The facings are nicely closed (except for the bowing) right now but if these are brand new and as your feet mold in to the footbed, they are going to come close to overlapping.  That's one indicator of too little foot volume for a particular width.

 

I second the motion to have an AE employee size you (though good luck finding a "C" width in a brick and mortar store).  The Brannock devise (in the proper hands) is a good starting point but doesn't help much in my experience addressing foot volume.

 

Just my take.

 

 

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Originally Posted by ryansto View Post
 

the bowing looks to be caused by your feet being flat. The Brannock device measures your foot heel-toe-toe and heel-to-ball, but it makes a lot of assumptions about your feet (average instep, narrower at the mid-foot than at the ball, etc). I would try going to an E width- possibly a half-size down, if you don't want too much volume in front. You seem like a good candidate for arch support inserts, as well. you may need the E width to accommodate the insert, but it would definitely straighten the top line.

 

 

Wow, thanks for all helpful input! 

 

To answer some questions:

1) Both 5 last shoes are new. I put them in shoe trees as soon as received. The McTavishs are 2nds which might explain some of the issue as they likely sat on a shelf for a while. 

2) I was fitted on a brannock at Nordstrom. I'm in Los Angeles and the closest AE retailer is ~90 mins away in Orange County. The more I think about it, this may be the best approach as opposed to sending shoes back and forth in a trial-and-error fashion. The only challenge is my wife and I have a 2 month old baby so it may be tough to get down there. :confused:

 

Nordstroms in my area don't seem to stock many size/width combinations and I can go back and get another look on the brannock but that may not do much good overall. I did find some simple tests you can do online to see if you have flat feet (never considered this before). 

 

Similarly, would appreciate any recommendations if anyone is familiar with retailers in the San Fernando Valley or Conejo Valley that are suited for a proper fitting. 

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There are also Rothsay boots in the shoebank for $137. The description of the Rothsay on the main AE website says that they come with Harrier soles, but the picture shows Vibram soles. But the picture I see on the 'bank for the olive-color Rothsays does look like a Harrier. So, I guess the point is, call and ask which sole the boots actually have if you choose to go this direction. 

 

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Originally Posted by armedferret View Post
 

 

 

Have you thought about the Sturgis?  They're essentially a Wolverine 1000-mile with a lug sole (more or less).  I *LOVE* mine; they're my go-to for recent wet-weather ridiculousness we've had in the DC/MD/VA area (seriously, like a friggin MONTH of rain and now tropical storms on the way).  Plus i've managed to get more than a few scuffs here and there on 'em....clean right up with a wipe of Doc Marten's or other beeswax-based conditioner.  I think they're around 150-ish on clearance now, although sizes tend to be a bit more sparse now than they were a month ago.

 

 

Edit, because #picthread :D

 

post #6625 of 17678

thanks guys.  I'll call later today and find out my options.  Do the Freiburg and Rothsay have a poron insole or leather insole? 

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Originally Posted by Mat Waites View Post
 

Maiden voyage for Oxblood McGregors

 

- Thanks to ShoeBank

 

Nice gunboats. That color looks really good with the Khaki.

post #6627 of 17678
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Originally Posted by Lobster33 View Post
 

thanks guys.  I'll call later today and find out my options.  Do the Freiburg and Rothsay have a poron insole or leather insole? 

Freiburgs are leather. I've never seen Rothsays in person, but the description says that they have a "poron foam tongue and collar" and a padded insole. 

post #6628 of 17678
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Originally Posted by SLCRich View Post

Maybe I need more feet instead?

You're on to something
post #6629 of 17678
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Originally Posted by SLCRich View Post

I'm speaking blasphemy, but I need less shoes. I'm still squeaking in these Daltons. In theory, if I had less shoes these would have already broken in, however, I'd have less shoes. Maybe I need more feet instead?

I've heard that if you sleep with your shoes on, you break them in faster.  YMMV.

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Originally Posted by MattRiv View Post

I've heard that if you sleep with your shoes on, you break them in faster.  YMMV.
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