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post #5791 of 17707
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Originally Posted by donkeyhoatie View Post
 

Ok, so every day I log on here to take a look at what all the rest of you filthy barnweasels are sharing. And, every day I have to look at the first post from @watchidiot which contains my favorite MTO in the world. That blue cordovan MacNeil. For my tastes, and my wardrobe, it's essentially the perfect MTO. Every detail is right. The exposed brass eyelets. The flat laces. The fit looks perfect. But, to me, I think the thing I like most is the use of the natural welt. I love the contrast of it on a navy shoe. 

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Pretty much every day, I have to see this beauty. And every day, I die a bit inside knowing that I cannot have it, even when the next trunk sale/MTO rolls around. I've been tempted to make it the wallpaper image for my iPhone, but I think I might weep openly every time I take a call. I want to print it out on beautiful archival paper and frame it and hang it above my bed, but my wife already thinks I'm weird enough as it is. Plus, it would probably clash with my George Costanza "Timeless Art of Seduction" velvet painting I'm trying to commission to hang there right now. I've thought about having my feet tattooed to look just like this, but that's going too far, right?

So, in order to take my mind off the unobtanium, I try to look at other people's shoes and bring myself down from my unnatural, scortatory coveting. (Yeah, I know, it's a rare word, but totally applicable here.) One thing I've noticed recently is that more and more guys are wearing black leather shoes with a natural welt. Now, as stated above, I love the look of a natural welt with navy. Heck, I love it with pretty much every color under the sun, but I think it looks odd with black. From a wardrobe standpoint, black can be tough to pull off, and I feel like the natural welt makes it even harder to do so. Am I in the minority here? Are any of you sporting some natural on black? It's OK if you are. Just wondering.

 

All right, I've rambled enough. Back to your barnweaseling.  

 

Saw it today on a guy who doesn't normally suit up, wearing a suit.  I just figured he chose to not buy dress shoes to go with his suit.  Perhaps I misjudged and he did so on purpose.

 

Either way, I found it odd.  Charcoal suit, black shoes, lumberjack welt.  :evolve:

post #5792 of 17707

Just think -- in about 5 weeks, this place is gonna be flooded with blue Stand pics.  

post #5793 of 17707
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Just think -- in about 5 weeks, this place is gonna be flooded with blue Stand pics.  

Midnight Monday, yo.

post #5794 of 17707
I rarely post questions to the group, but looking for some opinions on this. I consider myself extremely tolerant when it comes to breaking stuff in. In fact, some people like @moose22 would probably call me a masochist. Occasionally something is good to go out of the box, but usually this is not the case.

Off the top of my head, the original park ave destroyed my insteps wear after wear until finally breaking in - were talking like 40 plus wears, full day. They now feel like slippers. The Jermyn destroyed my right big toe for roughly a year (its good now). MacNeil? First wear took the skin off both my heels so bad I needed masking tape for a month - now I wear them at least once a week.

I could go on in case this amuses people. I recently picked up a sojourner. Initial reaction was that they felt uber large up front but do able, since the heel was so reinforced and locked you in. I was honestly expecting total garbage and was pleasantly surprised. With extended wear, I started feeling this weird pressure on my ankles, to the point where it was excruciating. Finally took the skin off my left ankle completely. That was wear #1. Wear #2 (wasn't giving up that easily) was worse - the left shoe is sort of flexing to the point where I feel like I could sprain my ankle. I mentioned this to a store manager who said I could try using a tongue pad under the road warrior insert to see if that helped, but I'm honestly hesitant to even put these on again. I feel like these should be pulled off the market and destroyed.

So what do you guys think - man up, I've dealt with worse, or admit defeat?
post #5795 of 17707
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Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post

I rarely post questions to the group, but looking for some opinions on this. I consider myself extremely tolerant when it comes to breaking stuff in. In fact, some people like @moose22 would probably call me a masochist. Occasionally something is good to go out of the box, but usually this is not the case.

Off the top of my head, the original park ave destroyed my insteps wear after wear until finally breaking in - were talking like 40 plus wears, full day. They now feel like slippers. The Jermyn destroyed my right big toe for roughly a year (its good now). MacNeil? First wear took the skin off both my heels so bad I needed masking tape for a month - now I wear them at least once a week.

I could go on in case this amuses people. I recently picked up a sojourner. Initial reaction was that they felt uber large up front but do able, since the heel was so reinforced and locked you in. I was honestly expecting total garbage and was pleasantly surprised. With extended wear, I started feeling this weird pressure on my ankles, to the point where it was excruciating. Finally took the skin off my left ankle completely. That was wear #1. Wear #2 (wasn't giving up that easily) was worse - the left shoe is sort of flexing to the point where I feel like I could sprain my ankle. I mentioned this to a store manager who said I could try using a tongue pad under the road warrior insert to see if that helped, but I'm honestly hesitant to even put these on again. I feel like these should be pulled off the market and destroyed.

So what do you guys think - man up, I've dealt with worse, or admit defeat?

I've never had any correct fitting AE shoe tear me up at all.  How do shoes tear up your heel if you have socks on?

post #5796 of 17707
@SLCRich After my experience with the Jermyn, I must have been delirious to even consider the Grayson but glad I did. Picked up a pair in merlot. Was my favorite loafer too....until I happened upon my burgundy shell Adams 😉.
post #5797 of 17707
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Originally Posted by MattRiv View Post
 

I've never had any correct fitting AE shoe tear me up at all.  How do shoes tear up your heel if you have socks on?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Neo1 View Post

I rarely post questions to the group, but looking for some opinions on this. I consider myself extremely tolerant when it comes to breaking stuff in. In fact, some people like @moose22 would probably call me a masochist. Occasionally something is good to go out of the box, but usually this is not the case.

Off the top of my head, the original park ave destroyed my insteps wear after wear until finally breaking in - were talking like 40 plus wears, full day. They now feel like slippers. The Jermyn destroyed my right big toe for roughly a year (its good now). MacNeil? First wear took the skin off both my heels so bad I needed masking tape for a month - now I wear them at least once a week.

I could go on in case this amuses people. I recently picked up a sojourner. Initial reaction was that they felt uber large up front but do able, since the heel was so reinforced and locked you in. I was honestly expecting total garbage and was pleasantly surprised. With extended wear, I started feeling this weird pressure on my ankles, to the point where it was excruciating. Finally took the skin off my left ankle completely. That was wear #1. Wear #2 (wasn't giving up that easily) was worse - the left shoe is sort of flexing to the point where I feel like I could sprain my ankle. I mentioned this to a store manager who said I could try using a tongue pad under the road warrior insert to see if that helped, but I'm honestly hesitant to even put these on again. I feel like these should be pulled off the market and destroyed.

So what do you guys think - man up, I've dealt with worse, or admit defeat?

 

I have not had any shoe aside from my Kenwoods feel great all day in the first few wears from AE, usually takes 10 wears or so (for me at least) and I have not experienced any skin coming off. Occasionally my insteps will be sore with extended wear (10+ hours) but never anywhere near what you are describing. I don't think it is admitting defeat I think its saving yourself from what sounds like actual torture.

post #5798 of 17707
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They are very nice shoes. I think you are going to like them. Be forewarned. They look much better than shown in the pictures, they don't come with lime shoe laces, and they may be in Peal & Co shoebags and box (at least mine were). I got mine for that price as well, some time ago.

 

They came today.  You were right, much nicer in person and no lime green laces.  Sadly, no shoe bags, but that's ok.

 

Wearing them tonight to dinner with the wife for our anniversary.  Quick test fitting:

 

post #5799 of 17707
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Originally Posted by RTD1 View Post
 

 

They came today.  You were right, much nicer in person and no lime green laces.  Sadly, no shoe bags, but that's ok.

 

Wearing them tonight to dinner with the wife for our anniversary.  Quick test fitting:

 

 

Are those the Cooke Bit Choc Suede/Dainite on shoebank?

post #5800 of 17707

I had boots years ago with the plastic reinforced heel (steel toe for work) and the heel reinforcement hit me under the ankle bone. It NEVER got better. Rubbed me absolutely raw, and a bandage over the area wouldn't fix the problem as it was just a bad fit for my ankle. I gave them to goodwill.

 

I don't understand a tongue pad under the insert. That sounds nuts to me, but I might be picturing it wrong. Only place I'd heard of to put a tongue pad is on the tongue to push you back toward the heel. That's how I fit a 5 last - -go one wider and use a pad to keep me from swimming around in the heel area. A bad solution compared to just buying a better last for me,but it really worked on the PAs in the store. If the problem really is that you're swimming in the heel part of the shoes you have, it might be the thing to hold you in place, and if the raw ankle is from rubbing, not from the reinforcement jamming into you, it could stop that.

post #5801 of 17707

@Neo1

 

That's one reason I've avoided buying any of the road warriors.  I've read a lot of problems with foot pain and fit.  If it's causing you extreme pain every time you wear it and it does not improve, what other choice do you have?  I'd argue for giving it 10 wears at least and see if it improves.

 

I've only had two real challenges with break in.  My Ashton caused me toe pinching for several weeks, but that went away.  My Leeds took 25 wears for it to finally be comfortable, and even so, my Carlyle is more comfortable than the Leeds.  Not counting the Wilbert which was mis-sized or defective forcing me to go up 1/2 size.  AE's casual shoes have been mis-sized in my experience (except for the Malone).

post #5802 of 17707
@MattRiv I find a lot of heels overly large. They destroy me until broken in. The MacNeil heel is huge, as was the freiburg. I consider the patriot a godsend in this department.
post #5803 of 17707
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Originally Posted by donkeyhoatie View Post



So, in order to take my mind off the unobtanium, I try to look at other people's shoes and bring myself down from my unnatural, scortatory coveting. (Yeah, I know, it's a rare word, but totally applicable here.) One thing I've noticed recently is that more and more guys are wearing black leather shoes with a natural welt. Now, as stated above, I love the look of a natural welt with navy. Heck, I love it with pretty much every color under the sun, but I think it looks odd with black. From a wardrobe standpoint, black can be tough to pull off, and I feel like the natural welt makes it even harder to do so. Am I in the minority here? Are any of you sporting some natural on black? It's OK if you are. Just wondering.

 

All right, I've rambled enough. Back to your barnweaseling.  

 

 

I agree.  I almost pulled the trigger on a great deal on a pair of Oak Street Bootmakers beefroll penny loafers in black leather, but then thought twice about it and the combo of black + natural welt.  Don't get me wrong, I love natural welts too, but I don't really think I have any use for a black loafer (I'm not sure anyone truly does), and I buy OSB for casual loafers - so natural/brown work much better.

 

A great deal on something you won't wear is a bad deal.

post #5804 of 17707
@moose22 Yes! That ankle pain is exactly like work boot pain, like with red wings. It isn't wide at all the material is just so stiff.
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