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post #4516 of 17649
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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post
 

Would anyone be interested in these 8.5D cappuccino shell Bayfield MTO? Just an interest check since they might be on the chopping block in favor of something else to fill a void in my collection. 


 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

If they were 8's I'd be all over them, but alas...

 

Though I'm pretty sure they would fit me OK, they deserve a better home foot.

post #4517 of 17649
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 I might be interested as well.  How much are you asking?

 

Bernie

 

 

PM'd you guys

post #4518 of 17649
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Originally Posted by M2511 View Post
 

Well I tried again but was unsuccessful in getting them to put the "shell only" sole (JR sole with dovetail heel) on a calf. I cannot for the life of me understand why since they allow custom sole orders. I offer to pay the difference and still no dice. Does calf have some kind of magnetic repellent of those soles because I cannot think of any reason why they wouldn't do this.

 

 

I wonder if AE gets the JR soles pre-stamped with the Horween Shell Cordovan imprint.  This could be the reason behind not allowing them on non-shell shoes.

 

 

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I remain confused as well. I do not think this is a JR sole on this pair of Westchesters, but it certainly looks nice with the dovetail heel. They certainly use it on non-shell shoes and I think it should be an option.

 

 

I have a feeling BCF gets (or used to get) protypes, some other sort of 'test' shoes, or factory errors (i.e. Brooks Bros. sole on non Brooks shoes).  I've seen at least one pair of AEs at BCF/MJM/Cohoes that are not normal make ups.

 

 

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I really do not understand. In one of their 2013 catalogs they have a "double leather" sole which shoes a dovetail to come with it. According to SA the dovetail is exclusive to shell and so is the JR sole.... Then we have shoes like the photo you just showed. It doesn't make sense.

 

 

Relying on certain SA's is not a sure thing; by far.  By all accounts a good portion of the current SA batch seem woefully uninformed.

 

Its possible policy on dovetail heels has changed since the 2013 catalog, or (more likely) the picture was an error.  Photo errors are something thats been discussed before in the old thread if I'm not mistaken.


Edited by ace13x - 5/4/16 at 3:12pm
post #4519 of 17649
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Originally Posted by M2511 View Post

I really do not understand. In one of their 2013 catalogs they have a "double leather" sole which shoes a dovetail to come with it. According to SA the dovetail is exclusive to shell and so is the JR sole.... Then we have shoes like the photo you just showed. It doesn't make sense.

The calf Vernon has always had a dovetail heel for as long as I can remember (but it's bein discontinued unfortunately).
post #4520 of 17649
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The calf Vernon has always had a dovetail heel for as long as I can remember (but it's bein discontinued unfortunately).

 

I was not aware of this. They have my size in brown on shoebank but I am a bit more partial to Cornwallis.... decisions.... 

post #4521 of 17649

@smfdoc I agree with you 100%.  It was a realization I had to make that owning just one pair of AE puts you in a very very small percentage of the population when it comes to footwear, (not even going to bring up us filthy barnweasels that own multiple of the same style just in a different color).  Let alone the amazing shoes over in the Alden, JL, EG, G&G etc threads.  I was lucky enough to try on a pair and feel just how better the quality was and now I'd almost want to wear my AE's over my sneakers.

 

Side note, I switched my lacing from straight bar back to criss cross (almost took another picture because, I'm a whore).  The functionality of criss cross is just so much better/easier than straight lacing.  Having said that, straight lacing looks a helluva lot better, but is such a pain if say the 2nd to last bar is loose and you have to hunt your way down the line instead of criss cross where we all know how to work that.

post #4522 of 17649
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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Stupid question of the day. New pair of mcallisters. Wore them once on carpet, they fit well so I started to condition them (AE conditioner/cleaner) and planned to use nuetral polish.

The conditioner cleaner took off some of the finish - is this something that will blend with walnut polish, or would it take more work (or is it a bigger problem)? I have polished shoes for awhile, and have heard that some cleaners will strip the burnishing, but this just struck me as odd.

And of course it happened within minutes of my wife asking "you are keeping those? I thought you were going to return that pair because you already have one that looks just like it?"

[IMG]


 

Conditioning right out of the box is normally not needed, but thats spilt milk.  There was a discussion on the previous AE Appreciation Thread on the Walnut polish being too yellow, and some have suggested the Bourbon polish is a closer match (I have both, and I tend to agree Bourbon matches the tone better).  I also believe someone said they alternate Walnut and Bourbon every other polishing, and that they get good results.

 

As for the Burnishing (something I have not done), IMO I think using one of the Brown shades (instead of Black) may better replicate the original burnishing on the Walnut.  The Walnut burnishing is much warmer than the burnishing on the Bourbon shoes.  Black may leave your shoes looking more like Bourbon.  In either case, use a minimum of the darker color of your choice if you attempt to burnish them.

post #4523 of 17649
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Originally Posted by SLCRich View Post
 

@smfdoc I agree with you 100%.  It was a realization I had to make that owning just one pair of AE puts you in a very very small percentage of the population when it comes to footwear, (not even going to bring up us filthy barnweasels that own multiple of the same style just in a different color).  Let alone the amazing shoes over in the Alden, JL, EG, G&G etc threads.  I was lucky enough to try on a pair and feel just how better the quality was and now I'd almost want to wear my AE's over my sneakers.

 

Side note, I switched my lacing from straight bar back to criss cross (almost took another picture because, I'm a whore).  The functionality of criss cross is just so much better/easier than straight lacing.  Having said that, straight lacing looks a helluva lot better, but is such a pain if say the 2nd to last bar is loose and you have to hunt your way down the line instead of criss cross where we all know how to work that.


Were you bar lacing like this:

 

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightbarlacing.htm

 

or like this:

 

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straighteuropeanlacing.htm

 

I find the latter easier to tighten/untighten and can also get tighter lacing overall with the European method.

post #4524 of 17649
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Originally Posted by ace13x View Post


Were you bar lacing like this:

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightbarlacing.htm

or like this:

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straighteuropeanlacing.htm

I find the latter easier to tighten/untighten and can also get tighter lacing overall with the European method.

The top one. I'm sure I'll be back to straight lace next week. It really does make the shoe look better.
post #4525 of 17649
Are there ever any deals on recrafting? I have a pair of McTavish that need new soles. It would be $125 via AE or I can buy a pair of seconds from the shoe bank for $147.
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FYI, there is 1 bourbon Walters St. belt on shoebank for $40 in size 36.  It wasn't there a few days ago when I ordered a 34 size.  I'm a 32-33 waist, so I would prefer the 36, but I don't want to go through the hassle of returning.  Thought someone on here with Bourbon shoes might be interested.

post #4528 of 17649

Hey all,

 

I'm a long time lurker and AE fan, who had a less than satisfying customer experience with the Consumer Assistance Center and wanted to get the thoughts of those more experienced on how to handle it.  (I don't want to be unreasonable.)  My previous calls to them had left me feeling like customer satisfaction was their number one priority.  Of the last few pairs I ordered from Shoe bank, two were not the ones I ordered (leather sole when the online description called for Dainite and tap sole when the specs indicated leather) and one was severely defective to the point that it should not have even been sold as a third (uneven heels?!?).  I asked the rep if she would waive the restocking fee, at least for the pairs that were different than the specs on shoe bank (sole different than described) and she refused.  

 

Based on my experience, shoes with different soles (leather, Dainite, or tap) have different listings on shoe bank.  The rep claimed that the wrong sole is what made them seconds.  She also said that she didn't have the shoes I ordered in front of her to verify what I was telling her.  (?!?)

 

I guess I'm writing to find out your thoughts and as a cautionary tale in regard to ordering from the Consumer Assistance Center as opposed to an outlet store where they can describe the shoes to you when you're on the phone with the SA.

 

BTW, my local AE retail store in Troy is very helpful.  I might just return the shoes to them and see what they think.

 

Thanks and sorry for the gripe as a first post.

post #4529 of 17649

Greetings.

 

I am new to this forum and new to the pleasures of Allen Edmonds ownership.  I also seem to have been immediately afflicted with the same disease that clearly affects many of you.

 

I will try to keep this short.  My first attempt at writing this post failed miserably.

 

My first shoes were (and still are) a pair of Dark Chili MacNeil 2.0s that I picked up during Soles for Souls promotion. While zeroing in on the right fit for me, I tried on several sizes. My foot measures just about a perfect 9D on the Brannock device. We started with a 8.5D. To me, this felt a bit roomier than what I was used to. So, I had them bring in an 8D. This felt a bit too tight, particularly it was crowding my toes on my right foot which is ever so slightly larger. Then I had an 8E brought in, but I had too much room in the heel. Three separate SAs recommended the 8.5D and indicated that they thought the widest part of my foot was a bit too far foward in the 8D and 8E. So, I made the purchase of the 8.5D. However, I've never gotten over the sensation that they are slightly large. When I cinch the laces down to my satisfaction, the facings seem awfully close together. Less than a 0.5" gap. I've worn them a half dozen times or so now, and I fear I am beyond the possibility of exchanging them. I wouldn't even know what size to request if I could. Is there anything you would recommend at this point? I was thinking maybe some insoles would help me fill out the shoe a bit more. Thoughts?

 

Also, in my quest for a legitimate rotation of brown shoes, I have made a number of additional purchases.  Two 65 last shoes: Bourbon McGregors and Bourbon Fifth Avenues. Both 8.5D as well. The FAs were even a bit snug in the toes at first but seem to be breaking in and feel pretty nice now. The McGregors, on the other hand, seemed awfully roomy in the toe box and were creasing in a way that, to my inexperienced eye, seemed extreme. I exchanged those for Walnut Madison Parks in 8.5D since they matched the $244.90 price that Nordstrom is selling them for right now. I've worn the Madison Parks around the house a bunch as well as out of the house a couple times and feel very good to me and the creasing is what I would consider normal. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed the difference between the McGregor and other 65 last shoes in terms of fit. I really like the looks of the McGregor and the fit of my Fifth Aves. I'd take my chances on another pair of McGregors if I wasn't worried about having to return them due to the same fit issues.

 

Thanks in advance for your sage advice. So much for keeping it short.

 

Also, in an attempt to contribute something and since I don't believe I've read it on this thread, I see that Brooks Brothers is running 25% off right now.  That makes the price of their AE models a bit more reasonable if anyone is looking at the one of the styles that they carry.  FWIW.

post #4530 of 17649
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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Stupid question of the day. New pair of mcallisters. Wore them once on carpet, they fit well so I started to condition them (AE conditioner/cleaner) and planned to use nuetral polish.

The conditioner cleaner took off some of the finish - is this something that will blend with walnut polish, or would it take more work (or is it a bigger problem)? I have polished shoes for awhile, and have heard that some cleaners will strip the burnishing, but this just struck me as odd.

And of course it happened within minutes of my wife asking "you are keeping those? I thought you were going to return that pair because you already have one that looks just like it?"

[IMG]

Have you tried calling and/or sending an e-mail to customer service? I rubbed off some of the burnishing on the toe of my recently purchased factory second Bourbon Fifth Avenues with just a damp cloth and perhaps a bit too much enthusiasm. I took them up on their offer to have me send them in for evaluation.  They are now refinishing the shoes for me at no charge. I am told it will be two (more) weeks. Being that I am a new Allen Edmonds customer, I'll have to wait and see how accurate they are. This might be a solution if you can handle being without your shoes for a few weeks.

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