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Are those oxblood or is that the tan saddle? Well-played, sir.

It's called "brown saddle", but they told me over the phone that it's what they used to call chili.  I do agree that they are redder than chili and look more like oxblood, especially in that kind of lighting.  I got them from the bank, but there is no seconds mark on the shoe.  They even gave me an extra 20% off due to some creasing and some damage that I posted a few weeks ago.  I think they had been in their network for quite some time.

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Gents, I have a question on the finish on newer calf skin.  I bought the Leidens when they first came out and just bought the Cornwallis.  Leiden in Walnut and Cornwallis in brown, has anyone experienced the finish peeling off?  Its almost like the leather underneath is lighter in color. 

post #4488 of 17573
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Sorry no experience with that shoe, but I personally don't buy used shoes because of many reasons. One of them being that used shoe may have "foot impression" of previous owner as cork adjusts according to foot shape and walking style. Such shoe may not ever be comfortable to you. Obviously people have different opinions on this

( Also the idea of someone else's sweaty foot inside the shoe will always haunt me) .

You can try Delray from shoebank if available in your size. That may cost more than what you want but will be worth it.

 

 

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Anyone here have any experience with the AE Montgomery Shoe? How's the fit? What last? Also, do you guys recommend buying used AE shoes? Because I'm looking for a brown split toe casual shoe and I can get these for less than $50 used. Thanks!

 

 

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Like you said, to each their own, but a recraft by AE or a resole by a cobbler that does things the right way (like B. Nelson) will completely negate this concern. The cork gets replaced and flattened out.


For what it's worth, most of my AEs were bought used because that's how I transitioned into "expensive" shoes. Some have worked out better than others but I'd have to say aside from making it easier to get started with AEs it isn't something I recommend unless you're going extremely cheap just to try something or find a bargain on a "like new" pair. I've had two recrafted by AE after purchasing used and while the new cork probably does help with overall softness on impact, it actually does nothing to help the impressions from the previous owner. The insole itself in those cases has shaped to the previous foot and that is not replaced or corrected during AE recrafting so if you happen to not be a similarly shaped foot it can end up being pretty uncomfortable. If you get lucky and have similar feet then this isn't nearly as big of a problem, it's just a toss up.

 

Also, I've seen Nick V. (B. Nelson) mention on SF before that he can address the insole problem during a resole but I've never tried it with his service. He indicates that he takes the outsole off and gets the insole soaked with the leather stretching fluid and then leaves it on the press for a few days to flatten out. If you search the forum here I think you'll find some old posts where he mentions this.

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Stupid question of the day. New pair of mcallisters. Wore them once on carpet, they fit well so I started to condition them (AE conditioner/cleaner) and planned to use nuetral polish.

The conditioner cleaner took off some of the finish - is this something that will blend with walnut polish, or would it take more work (or is it a bigger problem)? I have polished shoes for awhile, and have heard that some cleaners will strip the burnishing, but this just struck me as odd.

And of course it happened within minutes of my wife asking "you are keeping those? I thought you were going to return that pair because you already have one that looks just like it?"

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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Stupid question of the day. New pair of mcallisters. Wore them once on carpet, they fit well so I started to condition them (AE conditioner/cleaner) and planned to use nuetral polish.

The conditioner cleaner took off some of the finish - is this something that will blend with walnut polish, or would it take more work (or is it a bigger problem)? I have polished shoes for awhile, and have heard that some cleaners will strip the burnishing, but this just struck me as odd.

And of course it happened within minutes of my wife asking "you are keeping those? I thought you were going to return that pair because you already have one that looks just like it?"

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I don't use the conditioner cleaner from AE (I use Lexol and Saphir Reno), so I can't speak to it personally, but others here have said that it will strip the burnishing if you are too aggressive with it.  The walnut polish is going to add some orange-ish hues.  I'm not really sure what course of action to take here with the walnut.  If it were bourbon, you just add some black wax.

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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Stupid question of the day. New pair of mcallisters. Wore them once on carpet, they fit well so I started to condition them (AE conditioner/cleaner) and planned to use nuetral polish.

The conditioner cleaner took off some of the finish - is this something that will blend with walnut polish, or would it take more work (or is it a bigger problem)? I have polished shoes for awhile, and have heard that some cleaners will strip the burnishing, but this just struck me as odd.

And of course it happened within minutes of my wife asking "you are keeping those? I thought you were going to return that pair because you already have one that looks just like it?"

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I'm not a big fan of the Conditioner/Cleaner in most cases.  I prefer the Leather Lotion for simple conditioning, unless I'm removing a mark.  I always have to repolish after using the Conditioner/Cleaner, to get the shine back.

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Office light is definitely more consistent but the natural light is where it's at. I'll need to work on my photo skills for sure. Plus I had to pretend to tie my shoes about 5 times...

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Originally Posted by Lobster33 View Post
 

I'll probably get attacked for this, but I'm not a big fan of the cap toe design.  Not saying it's ugly -- just not my cup of tea.  I don't know why, but it just looks odd to me.  I have "old man" taste as my wife jokes, as I like the split toe / moc toe design as well as the plain toes like the Leeds and Carlyle.   I wish they had not discontinued the Clark Street shoes because I would likely own one by now (maybe it's good they did in that case).   

 

Interesting. I have the opposite experience. The classic Alden plain toe blucher I have, seen here is, well, plain. Its a beautiful shell shoe and all, but I was always of the opinion that some lines or brogue sort of "fancied" up a shoe and gave it more interest. I compare it to the AE Fairgate blucher I have. The addition of a cap toe, heel cap and one additional seam line on the side seems to break up the shoe and give it a little more interest. This is also why I also created the natural edge and added the eyelets. But that is just me. I guess this is why Baskin Robbins makes 31 flavors.

 

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Chili Grain Bradleys today (and I changed my calendar after seeing it was still on April in the photo)
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Chili Grain Bradleys today (and I changed my calendar after seeing it was still on April in the photo)

My Bradleys have a sole that is twice what those have.  Must have been MTO (I got them from ebay).


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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Stupid question of the day. New pair of mcallisters. Wore them once on carpet, they fit well so I started to condition them (AE conditioner/cleaner) and planned to use nuetral polish.

The conditioner cleaner took off some of the finish - is this something that will blend with walnut polish, or would it take more work (or is it a bigger problem)? I have polished shoes for awhile, and have heard that some cleaners will strip the burnishing, but this just struck me as odd.

And of course it happened within minutes of my wife asking "you are keeping those? I thought you were going to return that pair because you already have one that looks just like it?"
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AE conditioner cleaner is more of a cleaner IME. To restore the burnishing, I'd use a bit of a darker polish after (never before) you're done with your coat of walnut polish. I've used AE black polish for this.

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Originally Posted by SLCRich View Post
 

Couple things I noticed today...first I am a complete shoe whore.  I need to work on mentally not judging people's shoes, but it gets me through the day.

I am much the same, so do not take this observation as any form of criticism.

 

I think the division between those who wear fine footwear and those who do not are reflections of price, availability and a lack of role models. Many will reasonably question the potential benefit of paying higher prices for better shoes. I know I personally would, until the last year, top out around $125 as a price for a new shoe. That seemed to "do the job" and I fit right in with the vast majority of other shoe wearers. I only moved to more expensive shoes when I started to develop foot pain and found it difficult to find shoes that fit properly and did not cause pain.

      The second major barrier for many is that men rarely encounter fine footwear in stores as an option. How many men stumble into the single AE store in Salt Lake? In my experience, I have to actively search to find better shoes and it is nearly always online and through the mail. I live in Los Angeles and I have to drive 75 miles in each direction to visit the one and only AE store in all of southern California. Really?? There are 22.6 million people in Southern California and only one tiny AE store.  California has 39 million people and there is one single Alden store 350 miles away from me. Compare this to plethora of other lower cost brands found in every mall and outlet center. People will buy what they find.

     The price and availability does not even begin to address the social influence of athletes and Hollywood showing "celebrities" in baggy pants, sneakers, flat brim backwards hats and torn jeans. Sadly, I do not expect things to change much so I celebrate the very few individuals who do wear nice shoes. I just make of point of rewarding their efforts by offering a compliment.

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AE conditioner cleaner is more of a cleaner IME. To restore the burnishing, I'd use a bit of a darker polish after (never before) you're done with your coat of walnut polish. I've used AE black polish for this.

 

Could also try using a brush normally used for black shoes when working with the walnut polish.  I've done that with my walnut Kenilworths and they're a bit darker with a some nice depth to the finish.

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Originally Posted by smfdoc View Post

Interesting. I have the opposite experience. The classic Alden plain toe blucher I have, seen here is, well, plain. Its a beautiful shell shoe and all, but I was always of the opinion that some lines or brogue sort of "fancied" up a shoe and gave it more interest. I compare it to the AE Fairgate blucher I have. The addition of a cap toe, heel cap and one additional seam line on the side seems to break up the shoe and give it a little more interest. This is also why I also created the natural edge and added the eyelets. But that is just me. I guess this is why Baskin Robbins makes 31 flavors.





Your Alden PTBs are awesome!
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Stayed home today. Kicking it back in Wilberts.
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