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Bleecker Streets for a rainy day in the Bay Area. I'm so glad I packed these instead of my shell monk straps. The combination tap sole was built for days like this.



I stopped by one of the SF stores and asked about the trunk show. They claimed something is possible as early as November but no details will be available until after the RDA sale.
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Loving the Liverpool ❤️
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Oh, man. Talked up the sale to my buddy. He ordered some Strands, a Manistee belt, trees and polish online. Received only a Duke belt in the box and a packing slip that listed his whole order. That's a pretty shameful.

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I think I just spotted a pair of Unions in the wild. With a suit no less. Most AEs look better in person. Not these. Looks like cheap polished cobbler. Add in the tan welt and goofy wedge sole and it's no wonder they were disappeared.
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Thanks for this review. Most surprising to me is that they're using a half sockliner on a USA dress shoe. Disappointing.  I know that those DR mocs have the 1/2 sockliner but is this for all mainline shoes now? That's gotta be costcutting. 

As for the cancellation/postponement of the trunk show, not too disappointed. Not a lot of current models that I was excited about . I would have probably gone with the Cornwallis, but I don't have a handle on that new last. Maybe by the time they roll out the new one, they'll bring back the 333 last inlove.gif  

As far as I can recall, AE hasn't offered any sockliner in some time. If it's included (like in defunct models like Amok and Regent Street, it's almost always a half sockliner. Many fine makers like Alden and Carmina use half sockliners.

But the Strand, Park Ave, McTavish, Dundees, MacNeils, Daltons, etc etc that I've owned only have the bare insole. No sockliner.

Nice that they are starting to include the half sockliner and heel pad. I always requested that on all my MTOs back in the day. One time they put in a full sockliner by mistake, and it changed the fit drastically. I had to flip the shoe.

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Burgundy shell Higgins Mill, very cool.


Oh my!! Those are killer.
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Burgundy shell Higgins Mill, very cool.

 

Wowee zowee. If money was no object, I'd go for the same thing except in brown shell. Fantastic.

 

I think we can all agree this is the post of the day.

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Your point is well taken.  Model numbers aren't static, and references may not be accurate.  There are a couple pairs of interesting looking MacNeils on ebay this week (not mine) with model numbers that show up on the shell list.  But when I check the 1991 catalog (guessing the age based on the "handcrafted world of Allen Edmonds" insoles), they are polished cobbler.  You can also tell they aren't shell from the crinkling in the rolls, yet someone bought a pair for a lot more than I would pay for cobbler and is probably thinking they got a steal.  Caveat emptor.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182306305690

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Edmonds-MacNeil-Mens-Wingtip-Lace-Up-Dress-Shoe-US-12-/172367698652

 

references:

 

Official Shell Cordovan Shoes Model Numbers Guide

 

Allen Edmonds Back Catalogs

 

 

 

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The 9187 has been listed as #8, but this requires double checking. I found a site that claimed to contain the official shell cordovan model numbers for all makers who order from Horween. It is a great site with lots of information, but the buyer still must beware. For example, the model number for shell MacNeils are listed as "MacNeil: 9097/9147/9187 (#8, burgundy); 9177/9107 (black)." As a reference, they even show a page from a 1968 AE catalog.

 

 

This shows 9107 as black cordovan and 9147 as Cordoba shell cordovan. Perfect. That's straight from the manufacturer and one would think it was gospel, but it is not always so. Style numbers may continue to be used but the materials may change. The 1998 catalog, for example, shows the 9107 and 9147 are both "polished cobbler" or corrected grain. While some like cobbler I do not even raise polished cobbler to calf level, much less cordovan. Buyer beware.

 

I would recommend you look for other indications such as the dovetail heel and inspect the vamp closely to see if there are defined cracks in the folds like calf or rolls like shell. Bottom line, the 9187 has been identified as #8 shell and you should look for other things to help confirm this as they do change leathers with the same style number.

 

Update: I looked at the other pictures of the shoe. They do not enlarge but from what I see it looks like shell to me. Do ask for additional pictures as there are areas of wear that you should inspect closer such as the soles and excessive wear on the inside of the heel on the left shoe. You will just wish to make sure you know what you are getting.

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Loving the Liverpool ❤️

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Burgundy shell Higgins Mill, very cool.

 

Twas a great decision to go with flat welt.  Beautiful and...bet that launches a few orders like it.



See, for me, I think the existing welt is a great look on the Higgins Mill. I would have left it as is with the shell.

I'll say it again, the Higgins Mill is awesome. Glad I wore mine today. They look great even under crappy fluorescent light on top of ugly, corporate carpet.

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So advice.  What about the Patriot?  How does it fit?  

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OK so decided to take the new shoes to the office and wear them just on the carpet until I know if these are ok.

 

Like I said the fit of the shoe itself on my foot seems good I have plenty of room in the toe box, the fit front to back is good I would not want a longer shoe, the fit side to side is good this is a D and I think an E would be to wide on the bottom of the foot.

 

Now these being new shoes I did not make the laces tight I just comfortably tied them.

 

My concern with the fit or more the look not the fit is only how the gap gets much bigger from bottom to top.

 

So not sure how to proceed here since the shoe feels ok on my foot overall and I don't think I would want anything wider but what about this gap for the laces.

 

Is this acceptable?

 

Will it get closer with time?

 

Looking for some help here should I return or is this ok?

 


Those look like you need a wider shoe to me but I am not by any means an expert.

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The 1757 last seems to work well with most of us it seems.  My Rothsay's are on the last, and they fit great.  There's a decent amount of toe room, but the heel is snug, which I like.  I hope AE will consider using this last more in the future for new shoes.

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Liverpool is a home run for Allen Edmonds.  Very impressed. (pardon the horrible corporate carpet)  I know I have talked about this many times but it just hugs your foot.  Very comfy and stylish!  The combination tap sole is a added benefit.  Apparently as I learn more about this boot it took new equipment for Allen Edmonds to be able to produce it and a special type of leather.  That is why it's expensive.  Well worth it Gents! 

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Bleecker Streets for a rainy day in the Bay Area. I'm so glad I packed these instead of my shell monk straps. The combination tap sole was built for days like this.



I stopped by one of the SF stores and asked about the trunk show. They claimed something is possible as early as November but no details will be available until after the RDA sale.


I regret sending mine back! Ugh.  One of those missed moments.....

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See, for me, I think the existing welt is a great look on the Higgins Mill. I would have left it as is with the shell.

I'll say it again, the Higgins Mill is awesome. Glad I wore mine today. They look great even under crappy fluorescent light on top of ugly, corporate carpet.

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