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post #14611 of 17649
Well, how's this for honesty in advertising:
And I quote, from the eBay listing "The shoes are really in good shape except for the slight smell of cat urine."

They sure are priced to sell...
post #14612 of 17649
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post



In the most Styleforum question of all time: does the tassel on the left shoe warrant a return? It showed up kinda mangled, and now it spreads way open compared to the other tassel, and also is "longer," as if the knot was pulled too tight.

I would have already returned them, but my size is now back ordered. Is this a big enough problem to send back and wait four weeks for a replacement pair?

 

I can't remember just now, but I think it was on the LuxeSwap thread or the eBay Tips and Tricks thread someone posted how to straighten those out.  It was rather recent, like within 2 weeks past. 

If I run across it, I'll PM you the link.

post #14613 of 17649

Thanks for the info - there is some "puckering" around the eyelets and other clues that they are probably shell -

 

I'll see about getting more pics

 

 

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Originally Posted by smfdoc View Post
 

 

The 9187 has been listed as #8, but this requires double checking. I found a site that claimed to contain the official shell cordovan model numbers for all makers who order from Horween. It is a great site with lots of information, but the buyer still must beware. For example, the model number for shell MacNeils are listed as "MacNeil: 9097/9147/9187 (#8, burgundy); 9177/9107 (black)." As a reference, they even show a page from a 1968 AE catalog.

 

 

This shows 9107 as black cordovan and 9147 as Cordoba shell cordovan. Perfect. That's straight from the manufacturer and one would think it was gospel, but it is not always so. Style numbers may continue to be used but the materials may change. The 1998 catalog, for example, shows the 9107 and 9147 are both "polished cobbler" or corrected grain. While some like cobbler I do not even raise polished cobbler to calf level, much less cordovan. Buyer beware.

 

I would recommend you look for other indications such as the dovetail heel and inspect the vamp closely to see if there are defined cracks in the folds like calf or rolls like shell. Bottom line, the 9187 has been identified as #8 shell and you should look for other things to help confirm this as they do change leathers with the same style number.

 

Update: I looked at the other pictures of the shoe. They do not enlarge but from what I see it looks like shell to me. Do ask for additional pictures as there are areas of wear that you should inspect closer such as the soles and excessive wear on the inside of the heel on the left shoe. You will just wish to make sure you know what you are getting.

post #14614 of 17649
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Originally Posted by ace13x View Post

I can't remember just now, but I think it was on the LuxeSwap thread or the eBay Tips and Tricks thread someone posted how to straighten those out.  It was rather recent, like within 2 weeks past. 
If I run across it, I'll PM you the link.
PM me too if you spot the link please. Mine do the same thing, I thought it added character...
post #14615 of 17649
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Originally Posted by Echoes14 View Post

 

 

 

 

 

 

I received both pairs that I purchased from the RDA sale today. It seems I have bad luck buying firsts.

 

The Daltons have a big black spot near the first lace hole on one boot, and a round dent on the other. The store here has a pair in my size, so I'll go by there tomorrow for an exchange. 

 

The Cavanaughs....well, not quite what I was expecting for the burnishing. The side looks like someone took a black magic marker to it. Is this how they all look? Then there's the hole....is that normal? It was on both side on one shoe, and one side on the other.

 

Maybe I should stick to ordering seconds.....


Agreed if they were seconds I could live with the issues due to the discount.

I had a similar issue with my randolphs. Tiger striping and toe burnishing was pretty bad. I wore them so they non returnable. Just ended up refinishing them.

I've had to return 2 pairs of firsts. AE has always taken care of me. As much as possible the seconds I ordered from the stores the experience was great. The reps have been honest about condition. I did get the Randolph's with serious finish issues through CAC

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post #14616 of 17649
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Originally Posted by gm928 View Post
 

 

The burnishing doesn't look that bad, assuming that photography probably makes it stand out more than it does when looking at the shoes in person. But the holes in the Cavanaughs and the black stain on the Daltons are not normal and are not acceptable for first-quality shoes. I'd consider keeping the Daltons IF they were priced as seconds, but I would not keep the 'naughs except at absolute fire-sale pricing. 

It's funny, the burnishing on the side was the first thing I noticed. It was pretty obvious out of the box. My wife noticed the hole. I'll take them in tomorrow when I exchange my Daltons to see what the SA has to say. I might have to go a half-size up as well. When I tried them on in-store a couple of weeks ago, all they had in my normal size was a suede, which is more forgiving. These are a little tight in the toe. 

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Originally Posted by FranklinMadison View Post
 

Could the forum share its thoughts on balmorals with Dainite soles?  I have been considering adding a few pairs of shoes with Dainite soles for the winter, but worry that they might look too casual on otherwise-formal styles such as a brown balmoral. 


Another member commented on how one of his coworkers looked when he wore shoes with Danite soles and crossed his legs.  For those who have never seen how it looks, it looks like this.


A picture taken last February in Memorial Park in Pasadena CA.  The shoes are my MTO Allen-Edmonds McGillicuddys, which is what I call my MTO Horween English Tan Dublin Leather McAllisters with split reverse welt, brass eyelets, and Danite soles.

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Originally Posted by naspratt View Post


That's what I was thinking. But it seems they may have cancelled it, regardless of reason. Not sure any of the standard offerings really speak to me other than the Dalton, but I'm not sure how much use they'd get. I have too many shoes.

 

 

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Originally Posted by TexasTexter View Post
 


I hear is because of shortage of Cordovan and high demand and Allen Edmonds has the Christmas season coming up and trying to get stock on shelves.....no time for MTO. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by mdubya View Post


How disappointing. There go my daltons in brown shell.

Thank god for Brexit... Crockett and Jones shell can be had for $600 without having to clutch your pearls about what defects are going to show up.

 

I hope you all are wrong ...

I received this email from Allison ( the MTO queen from good old days) yesterday..

"

We will be having a cordovan trunk show closer to the middle of November, but we don’t have all the details yet. We are not sure what cordovan colors will be available and we don’t know if its going to be select styles or open to all styles. We plan on having natural, green and navy, but those are not set in stone yet.

 

We will know more after the Rediscover America Event.

"

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Maybe they postponed it because there were 8 different versions of the planned trunk show and the stores realized they were not all on the same page?  Some people posted that green, blue and natural would be available, while others heard it was just the current colors.  Some heard any shoe could be made into shell, while others stated it was limited to the current shell styles.  It was quite confusing. :crazy:   

post #14620 of 17649
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post



In the most Styleforum question of all time: does the tassel on the left shoe warrant a return? It showed up kinda mangled, and now it spreads way open compared to the other tassel, and also is "longer," as if the knot was pulled too tight.

I would have already returned them, but my size is now back ordered. Is this a big enough problem to send back and wait four weeks for a replacement pair?

 

 

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Originally Posted by SLCRich View Post


PM me too if you spot the link please. Mine do the same thing, I thought it added character...


Found it: post #29609 and a follow-up with the same info post #29610.  The one's in the OP's picture looked pretty mangled.  Basically, you wet them, wrap them up tight, and wait until they dry.

post #14621 of 17649
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I hope you all are wrong ...

I received this email from Allison ( the MTO queen from good old days) yesterday..

"

We will be having a cordovan trunk show closer to the middle of November, but we don’t have all the details yet. We are not sure what cordovan colors will be available and we don’t know if its going to be select styles or open to all styles. We plan on having natural, green and navy, but those are not set in stone yet.

 

We will know more after the Rediscover America Event.

"

 

Why do I feel like Charlie Brown and the football is the trunk sale?

 

post #14622 of 17649
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post
 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope you all are wrong ...

I received this email from Allison ( the MTO queen from good old days) yesterday..

"

We will be having a cordovan trunk show closer to the middle of November, but we don’t have all the details yet. We are not sure what cordovan colors will be available and we don’t know if its going to be select styles or open to all styles. We plan on having natural, green and navy, but those are not set in stone yet.

 

We will know more after the Rediscover America Event.

"


I hope you're right.  The good news is this gives me more flexibility on which bills I'll ignore.

post #14623 of 17649
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Originally Posted by Echoes14 View Post
 

 

Then there's the hole....is that normal? It was on both side on one shoe, and one side on the other.

 

I have occasionally seen such a hole on loafers that was caused by a store piercing the shoe to insert both halves of an anti shoplifting clip. The pin is pushed through an eyelet in laced shoes. The loafers have no laces and they push the pin through in the back where it "won't be noticed." But they never met a forum member who will notice everything.

 

post #14624 of 17649

Took a trip to the Paramus Outlet yesterday afternoon.  They got in a some "sample" belts that were priced at $39.  So if you're near an outlet and looking for a belt, you may want to drop in and see what they have.  Not sure exactly what "sample" means, but I picked up 3 of them.  Also, shoe care was $15% off, so trees were $17 (normally $20).  There was talk about the quality of the cedar in the seconds trees;  I grabbed the first two, they had no issues as far as I could tell, and they had nice crystals. 

 

Dem was some dank trees.

post #14625 of 17649

Also forgot to mention Paramus had a few Dark Chili Cornwallis.  Those were VERY nice, IMO a better color for that shoe than brown.  They don't show up in the ShoeBank inventory as far as I can tell, so again if they interest you, you may want to call around and see whats up.

 

I believe the Dark Chili Cornwallis was/is a Nordstrom exclusive.

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