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post #13726 of 17747
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Originally Posted by 007Bond View Post
 

New here.

 

I just got my 12th pair or AE yesterday the Shannon Drive that I picked up off the AE ebay store for $119.00 free shipping too.

 

Initially the fit is great I can see that this will be a very comfy pair right out of the gate. I have to say most of my AE's are seconds bought from the shoebank. This Shannon Drive is actually a first quality pair that AE put on ebay as a blow out price.

 

That said I am a real big AE fan and this being my first pair for firsts I have bought from AE I am a little disappointed in the quilty. Like I said all my other pairs are seconds and none of those 11 pair of seconds has as many of what I think are flaws.

 

In a few areas the stitching seems to be out of alignment to me at least it is not as good as all my other 11 seconds and this is a first. This is my first pair of this dull olive color but it seems to have a lot of streaks in the color. I don't think this is normal I don't see it on any online pics.

 

Take a look at a few photos of some of the issues I only posted the most obvious ones there are actually several others that are more subtle.

 

Listen overall a pair of AE's brand new from AE for $119 I really can't complain. If I had paid full price these would have most certainly been returned. But really I wanted a pair of more casual shoes for the weekend so at this price point I think it will work even with the flaws.

 

The only reason I even think these are flaws is because not a one of my AE seconds has anything like this and this being a first I would expect it to be at the least equal. But maybe I should let AE know just so they know that these flaws are making it past QC.

 

Let me know what you guys think.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see from a few feet away they do look nice. I added the laces they came with light tan laces. I may put them back I am a little on the fence about the green laces.

 

Opinions?

 

I think your expectations are too high for shoes in this price bracket, even at full price. You'll need to hop into the $900+ level of shoes to get the level of detail you want.

post #13727 of 17747
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Originally Posted by FaRKle View Post
 

 

I think your expectations are too high for shoes in this price bracket, even at full price. You'll need to hop into the $900+ level of shoes to get the level of detail you want.

 

The striping on them is something some tolerate and others don't. Personally looks fine, same with the sole stitching that is not something I would bat an eye at I mean you will have marked them up more than that just wearing them 5 minutes outside. The one thing I would find annoying at full price not at the price that was paid is the welt as it looks sloppy given that its contrasting the leather. At the ebay price... keepers.

post #13728 of 17747
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Originally Posted by 007Bond View Post
 

New here.

 

I just got my 12th pair or AE yesterday the Shannon Drive that I picked up off the AE ebay store for $119.00 free shipping too.

 

Initially the fit is great I can see that this will be a very comfy pair right out of the gate. I have to say most of my AE's are seconds bought from the shoebank. This Shannon Drive is actually a first quality pair that AE put on ebay as a blow out price.

 

That said I am a real big AE fan and this being my first pair for firsts I have bought from AE I am a little disappointed in the quilty. Like I said all my other pairs are seconds and none of those 11 pair of seconds has as many of what I think are flaws.

 

In a few areas the stitching seems to be out of alignment to me at least it is not as good as all my other 11 seconds and this is a first. This is my first pair of this dull olive color but it seems to have a lot of streaks in the color. I don't think this is normal I don't see it on any online pics.

 

Take a look at a few photos of some of the issues I only posted the most obvious ones there are actually several others that are more subtle.

 

Listen overall a pair of AE's brand new from AE for $119 I really can't complain. If I had paid full price these would have most certainly been returned. But really I wanted a pair of more casual shoes for the weekend so at this price point I think it will work even with the flaws.

 

The only reason I even think these are flaws is because not a one of my AE seconds has anything like this and this being a first I would expect it to be at the least equal. But maybe I should let AE know just so they know that these flaws are making it past QC.

 

Let me know what you guys think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see from a few feet away they do look nice. I added the laces they came with light tan laces. I may put them back I am a little on the fence about the green laces.

 

Opinions?



I'm pretty tolerant of minor issues with a pair of shoes. So, please keep that in mind. Honestly, I'm not seeing anything here that seems terribly out of place. Maybe the color "issue" on the toe, but that would most likely completely blend in after a couple treatments of leather lotion. For $119, I would be very pleased with those. In fact, if I don't drop a ton of coin this weekend on vacation, I'm most likely going to pick up a pair on Monday. 

You said the fit is pretty good on them. What size did you order relative to your other 12 pairs? Same as your 65 size? Or, did you adjust? 

post #13729 of 17747
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Originally Posted by M2511 View Post
 

 

The striping on them is something some tolerate and others don't. Personally looks fine, same with the sole stitching that is not something I would bat an eye at I mean you will have marked them up more than that just wearing them 5 minutes outside. The one thing I would find annoying at full price not at the price that was paid is the welt as it looks sloppy given that its contrasting the leather. At the ebay price... keepers.

Yea I was thinking wear them for a few then leather lotion and most likely the strips will be gone. I agree the sole stitching don't care much it will be unnoticeable in a day. The sloppy welt that is on the outside face so I pushed it back in with my finger it's still noticeable but for this price how can I complain.

 

Been wearing them all day feet feel good so comfort matters too so yes keepers.

post #13730 of 17747
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Originally Posted by 007Bond View Post
 

New here.

 

I just got my 12th pair or AE yesterday the Shannon Drive that I picked up off the AE ebay store for $119.00 free shipping too.

 

Initially the fit is great I can see that this will be a very comfy pair right out of the gate. I have to say most of my AE's are seconds bought from the shoebank. This Shannon Drive is actually a first quality pair that AE put on ebay as a blow out price.

 

That said I am a real big AE fan and this being my first pair for firsts I have bought from AE I am a little disappointed in the quilty. Like I said all my other pairs are seconds and none of those 11 pair of seconds has as many of what I think are flaws.

 

In a few areas the stitching seems to be out of alignment to me at least it is not as good as all my other 11 seconds and this is a first. This is my first pair of this dull olive color but it seems to have a lot of streaks in the color. I don't think this is normal I don't see it on any online pics.

 

Take a look at a few photos of some of the issues I only posted the most obvious ones there are actually several others that are more subtle.

 

Listen overall a pair of AE's brand new from AE for $119 I really can't complain. If I had paid full price these would have most certainly been returned. But really I wanted a pair of more casual shoes for the weekend so at this price point I think it will work even with the flaws.

 

The only reason I even think these are flaws is because not a one of my AE seconds has anything like this and this being a first I would expect it to be at the least equal. But maybe I should let AE know just so they know that these flaws are making it past QC.

 

Let me know what you guys think.


 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see from a few feet away they do look nice. I added the laces they came with light tan laces. I may put them back I am a little on the fence about the green laces.

 

Opinions?

 

I will echo the opinions of others here. For the price you paid, those are looking pretty darned good. The stitching on the sole is no problem whatsoever especially where it's located as it will never make contact with the ground. The only things that remotely bother me are the frayed stitching along the welt and possibly where the storm welt is slightly separated from the upper. However, the deal you got on those would cancel all of that out in my mind. Enjoy your shoes. Those look nice and sort of make me want to snag a pair.

post #13731 of 17747
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Originally Posted by donkeyhoatie View Post
 



I'm pretty tolerant of minor issues with a pair of shoes. So, please keep that in mind. Honestly, I'm not seeing anything here that seems terribly out of place. Maybe the color "issue" on the toe, but that would most likely completely blend in after a couple treatments of leather lotion. For $119, I would be very pleased with those. In fact, if I don't drop a ton of coin this weekend on vacation, I'm most likely going to pick up a pair on Monday. 

You said the fit is pretty good on them. What size did you order relative to your other 12 pairs? Same as your 65 size? Or, did you adjust? 

 

I ordered a 10D it fits like most AE 10D's do for me.

 

I actually keep a list of my shoes and lasts and fit.

 

This shoe is on the 201 last and in 10 D fits me well.

 

For example the only deviation is my Steen's they are the 108 last and I need a 10E. With the Steen a 10D real snug when I go to the 10E it fits good.

 

I do have a McGregor on the 65 last that is a real nice fit for me, if I had to compare the 10D fit of my 65 last McGregor to the 201 last of this Shannon Drive I would say both fit all day comfortable but the 201 has just a little more room from the mid to the toe. But honestly the 65 and 201 are almost identical for me they are equal in size and general fit.

 

 If you have the cash really you can't beat these for $119 free shipping can't really go wrong.

 

post #13732 of 17747
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Originally Posted by St Hubbins View Post
 

 

I will echo the opinions of others here. For the price you paid, those are looking pretty darned good. The stitching on the sole is no problem whatsoever especially where it's located as it will never make contact with the ground. The only things that remotely bother me are the frayed stitching along the welt and possibly where the storm welt is slightly separated from the upper. However, the deal you got on those would cancel all of that out in my mind. Enjoy your shoes. Those look nice and sort of make me want to snag a pair.

Great thanks for the feedback you are right the price is great.

 

They still have a bunch on ebay and they also have the Boone for $119 but I prefer the leather sole over the rubber. Also this Shannon Drive is the Butyl leather sole so has some weather resistance to it as well.

 

Like I was saying been wearing them all day not disappointed in my purchase at all.

post #13733 of 17747
My buddy got his pair of Bourbon Strands recrafted recently and they came back with pock-marks - holes that don't go all the way through - on one of the shoes that look like they were really poorly fixed. I realize you can't expect brand new shoes after recrafting, but you shouldn't be expected to accept extra damage, right? He's on the phone with AE as we speak and, as it turns out, the neither the before/after shots show the area of the shoe that contains the damage! Bottom line is that the person he is talking to is suggesting the "holes" were there before - which they certainly were not...I saw them.

What bothers me the most is, if they were damaged like that, I could have done a much better job helping him with the blend/repair than was done here. It looks as if they refinished the uppers, knicked them up and the spot repaired them with more stain! The rest of the shoes are great and the new soles are great. So this "repair" (of damage the shoes didn't have when he dropped them off at the AE store) stands out like a sore thumb. So my question is "how should this be handled?" He certainly feels like this should be rectified, but doesn't want to handle the situation the wrong way on the phone. Is there someone specific he should be contacting rather than just the 800 number from the website? Pictures below. . .




-James
post #13734 of 17747
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Originally Posted by FaRKle View Post
 

 

I think your expectations are too high for shoes in this price bracket, even at full price. You'll need to hop into the $900+ level of shoes to get the level of detail you want.

$900 yea I would expect spot on perfect shoes.

 

These at full price I would have returned since all my AE seconds came out of the box better. So with this I know that AE is capable of making shoes with little or no imperfections.

 

I think these should have been seconds again comparing same brand seconds to first for this conclusion.

 

BUT yes for $119 shipped to my doorstep these were a hell of a deal and I am going to enjoy them every time I wear them and smile when I think of how much I saved.

post #13735 of 17747
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Originally Posted by mingus2112 View Post

My buddy got his pair of Bourbon Strands recrafted recently and they came back with pock-marks - holes that don't go all the way through - on one of the shoes that look like they were really poorly fixed. I realize you can't expect brand new shoes after recrafting, but you shouldn't be expected to accept extra damage, right? He's on the phone with AE as we speak and, as it turns out, the neither the before/after shots show the area of the shoe that contains the damage! Bottom line is that the person he is talking to is suggesting the "holes" were there before - which they certainly were not...I saw them.

What bothers me the most is, if they were damaged like that, I could have done a much better job helping him with the blend/repair than was done here. It looks as if they refinished the uppers, knicked them up and the spot repaired them with more stain! The rest of the shoes are great and the new soles are great. So this "repair" (of damage the shoes didn't have when he dropped them off at the AE store) stands out like a sore thumb. So my question is "how should this be handled?" He certainly feels like this should be rectified, but doesn't want to handle the situation the wrong way on the phone. Is there someone specific he should be contacting rather than just the 800 number from the website? Pictures below. . .




-James

 

That really sucks.  I'd push as hard as I could that they weren't there before he sent them in.  Remain adamant. 

 

Can't be said enough that you should take lots of pics before you send them back to AE (or any cobbler for that matter).  

post #13736 of 17747
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Originally Posted by MattRiv View Post

That really sucks.  I'd push as hard as I could that they weren't there before he sent them in.  Remain adamant. 

Can't be said enough that you should take lots of pics before you send them back to AE (or any cobbler for that matter).  

True! If they were mine, I probably would have taken a bunch of pics just to have a good testimonial to post up here. But my buddy just wanted to get his shoes recrafted so he could wear them again. If the damage isn't saddening enough, he's not nearly as filthy a barn weasel as I am and this is one of only two pairs (the other is black park aves) that he can wear to work. So he's been relying on the black park aves while these were being recrafted and he can't even put them back into circulation until this issue is rectified. It's bad enough that they're trying to say the damage was already there. . .if he wears the soles, they'll try to say he damaged them while wearing them.

In the end, he's working up to being just as bad as we are buying shoes. Taking care of an issue that is so obviously (to the two of us, anyway) their problem and giving him the benefit of the doubt is in their best interest for future sales. I genuinely feel like it is just a matter of talking to the right people, at the right time to get it taken care of. So if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know!

-James
post #13737 of 17747
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Originally Posted by mingus2112 View Post

My buddy got his pair of Bourbon Strands recrafted recently and they came back with pock-marks - holes that don't go all the way through - on one of the shoes that look like they were really poorly fixed. I realize you can't expect brand new shoes after recrafting, but you shouldn't be expected to accept extra damage, right? He's on the phone with AE as we speak and, as it turns out, the neither the before/after shots show the area of the shoe that contains the damage! Bottom line is that the person he is talking to is suggesting the "holes" were there before - which they certainly were not...I saw them.

What bothers me the most is, if they were damaged like that, I could have done a much better job helping him with the blend/repair than was done here. It looks as if they refinished the uppers, knicked them up and the spot repaired them with more stain! The rest of the shoes are great and the new soles are great. So this "repair" (of damage the shoes didn't have when he dropped them off at the AE store) stands out like a sore thumb. So my question is "how should this be handled?" He certainly feels like this should be rectified, but doesn't want to handle the situation the wrong way on the phone. Is there someone specific he should be contacting rather than just the 800 number from the website? Pictures below. . .




-James

 

I had a pair of Bourbon mora 2.0s damaged during recrafting.  They had scratched the sides and left some random staining on parts of the shoe.  They had no problem flat out replacing them.

post #13738 of 17747
Another plus about the forum, when I'm ready for cobbler work, I can politely point them to this thread for all my shoe pictures smile.gif
post #13739 of 17747
I've got two pair of blue Neumoks, same size, from the shoe bank. I bought the second pair because I was not happy with the stitching on the first pair. After lacing up the second pair, it was noticeably tighter. . .much tighter even than my Strands and Park Aves. So much so that it kind of hurt the top of my left foot. I assumed they would be looser without any lining! I realized partway through the day that I had bar lacing on the new (tighter) pair and criss cross lacing on the other pair. (they laced them in store while I was trying them on) Switched to criss cross on the tight pair and now they're snug with no pain. I'm now wondering if maybe I used to do cris cross on my other 5 last shoes and switched to bar lacing after they had been broken in. Is this a process for anyone? Breaking in with different lacing? I knew that criss cross lacing was much easier to deal with and all of this (fitting better with that lacing) makes perfect sense. . .just wondering if anyone else automatically does this as a process before the shoe is broken in. I'll have to do the same with my McAllisters before I wear them for any length of time!

-James
post #13740 of 17747

Rushed out the house today, so just threw on the Grey Long Branches.

 

 

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