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post #136 of 17674

An "Allen-Edmonds shoes in the wild" picture with a Valentine's Day tie-in.  The shoes are Allen-Edmonds for Brooks Brothers black Strands.........


....and if anyone is wondering, it's also a Brooks Brothers suit (that I got in the seventies), shirt, and tie.

post #137 of 17674
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post
I waited for the longest time for a SWB from AE so that I can do a MTO in brown cordovan , but when my SA gave similar response as above I ended up buying these from Brooks Brother by C&J which is exactly what I was looking for ....

 

Those are by C&J?  That's surprising. The Brooks Brothers site says they're made in the USA.

 

 

Nice to know. Nice to have a decent source for cordovan at a competitive price, too. After my experiences with the run of the mill AEs this last year, I've started thinking about better leather being worth a small premium. A good pair of cordovan -- which should wear longer than other leathers and always seems to look better since it doesn't crease badly -- might be worth looking into this summer.

 

But AEs cordovan shoes are all in a last I don't fit into well -- usually 65. Definitely nothing in 201. I guess I understand, as AE is obviously having severe quality control problems and it's probably damned expensive to throw away a cordovan upper. Maybe they got burned with all the Leeds they made, though why you put your most expensive leather in your most boring casual shoe made on an orthopedic last is a question they should have asked themselves. But, the fact remains that the bulk of Cordovan is 5 last or loafer.

 

Again, it leaves me with no choices. It's as bad as when they offered me any shoe in their regular line and I couldn't find a brown captoe blucher to order. Or even a brogue or wingtip - those only come in the independence line offerings. It wasn't until this autumn that you had a non-pointy selection in anything but the 5 last, and it happens just as they shrink their color selection back to walnut, chili, and black.

 

A simple shell offering in a modern last -- brown Cornwallis, maybe -- would be awesome. Even a burgundy Warwick would be interesting and solve the pinched toes and burning instep complaints they get from the Nowwitch. Offer the Jefferson 2.0s in Shell, or the Bartletts, for those of us who like strands but aren't willing to cripple ourselves to wear them.

 

I don't see it happening. So many shoes are offered only in one color now, or maybe two -- black and brown, or black and walnut -- that it seems AE is going the opposite way.

post #138 of 17674
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Originally Posted by Moose22 View Post
 

 

Those are by C&J?  That's surprising. The Brooks Brothers site says they're made in the USA.

 

 

Nice to know. Nice to have a decent source for cordovan at a competitive price, too. After my experiences with the run of the mill AEs this last year, I've started thinking about better leather being worth a small premium. A good pair of cordovan -- which should wear longer than other leathers and always seems to look better since it doesn't crease badly -- might be worth looking into this summer.

 

But AEs cordovan shoes are all in a last I don't fit into well -- usually 65. Definitely nothing in 201. I guess I understand, as AE is obviously having severe quality control problems and it's probably damned expensive to throw away a cordovan upper. Maybe they got burned with all the Leeds they made, though why you put your most expensive leather in your most boring casual shoe made on an orthopedic last is a question they should have asked themselves. But, the fact remains that the bulk of Cordovan is 5 last or loafer.

 

Again, it leaves me with no choices. It's as bad as when they offered me any shoe in their regular line and I couldn't find a brown captoe blucher to order. Or even a brogue or wingtip - those only come in the independence line offerings. It wasn't until this autumn that you had a non-pointy selection in anything but the 5 last, and it happens just as they shrink their color selection back to walnut, chili, and black.

 

A simple shell offering in a modern last -- brown Cornwallis, maybe -- would be awesome. Even a burgundy Warwick would be interesting and solve the pinched toes and burning instep complaints they get from the Nowwitch. Offer the Jefferson 2.0s in Shell, or the Bartletts, for those of us who like strands but aren't willing to cripple ourselves to wear them.

 

I don't see it happening. So many shoes are offered only in one color now, or maybe two -- black and brown, or black and walnut -- that it seems AE is going the opposite way.

Yeah those are by C&J and are correctly listed as 'Made in England', I don't know which one you checked but here is the link ..

 

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Peal-Co.%C2%AE-Brogue/MH00471,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00471_Color=DKBR&contentpos=24&cgid=0522

 

Couldn't agree more on the brown cordovan Cornwallis, that's one beautiful shoe...

As for the calf color options which AE has, I think Chilli was one of their better offerings as compared to oxblood or bourbon.

post #139 of 17674
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post

Yeah those are by C&J and are correctly listed as 'Made in England', I don't know which one you checked but here is the link ..

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Peal-Co.%C2%AE-Brogue/MH00471,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00471_Color=DKBR&contentpos=24&cgid=0522

Couldn't agree more on the brown cordovan Cornwallis, that's one beautiful shoe...
As for the calf color options which AE has, I think Chilli was one of their better offerings as compared to oxblood or bourbon.

Wow, BB has increase the price on these. I remember looking at this pair and the other Peal & Co branded C&J shell PTB. They were $750 few months back and I had a 40% off shoes coupon. I kind of regret not getting one of them. How is the fit of the 240 last compared to AE lasts?
post #140 of 17674
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post
 

Yeah those are by C&J and are correctly listed as 'Made in England', I don't know which one you checked but here is the link ..

 

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Peal-Co.%C2%AE-Brogue/MH00471,default,pd.html?dwvar_MH00471_Color=DKBR&contentpos=24&cgid=0522

 

Couldn't agree more on the brown cordovan Cornwallis, that's one beautiful shoe...

As for the calf color options which AE has, I think Chilli was one of their better offerings as compared to oxblood or bourbon.


I just looked off their home page. The only cordovan wingtip I found was: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Cordovan-Leather-Wingtips/037H,default,pd.html?dwvar_037H_Color=BLCK&contentpos=6&cgid=0522  and it says USA. I wasn't looking at the same thing.

 

I guess there was more cordovan than just what you get when you filter by cordovan! Thanks for the link.

 

I'll agree with Chili -- the dark chili color goes with absolutely everything. The thing is, the first pair of Bourbon I saw was similar. It was like a walnut, but more golden and far more neutral. It, too, went with everything. But it is pretty obvious they can't replicate that color easily where the dark chili almost always comes out in a universally compatible color.

 

The color of the wingtips you posted? Exactly what I'd want if I could pick any color for a dressier shoe. I don't have a good brown in my rotation. I liked the mocha on the shoes I sent back last autumn, but the depth of color in the shell just has that extra, organic visual texture to it. And it's universal.  From khaki to a navy suit, you can't go wrong. I absolutely love Horween's color 8, too. If I decide to get anything above my current quality/price threshold, it's one of those two leathers that I'd be lusting after.

post #141 of 17674
Went down the Internet rabbit hole and ended up on an askandy thread from 2009 where someone posted pics of the "new models" upcoming at that time.



This kind of looks like a Vernon on the Cornwallis last. Love it, don't think it ever made it into production?
post #142 of 17674
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Originally Posted by cc808314 View Post


Wow, BB has increase the price on these. I remember looking at this pair and the other Peal & Co branded C&J shell PTB. They were $750 few months back and I had a 40% off shoes coupon. I kind of regret not getting one of them. How is the fit of the 240 last compared to AE lasts?

Right on, they increased the price very recently and it was almost across the board for most of Peal & Co. line. I got these for approx. $500 during a sale event as well. Fit wise, I take 10E in strands/daltons and 10D in these feels very comfy.

 

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Originally Posted by Moose22 View Post
 


I just looked off their home page. The only cordovan wingtip I found was: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Cordovan-Leather-Wingtips/037H,default,pd.html?dwvar_037H_Color=BLCK&contentpos=6&cgid=0522  and it says USA. I wasn't looking at the same thing.

 

I guess there was more cordovan than just what you get when you filter by cordovan! Thanks for the link.

 

I'll agree with Chili -- the dark chili color goes with absolutely everything. The thing is, the first pair of Bourbon I saw was similar. It was like a walnut, but more golden and far more neutral. It, too, went with everything. But it is pretty obvious they can't replicate that color easily where the dark chili almost always comes out in a universally compatible color.

 

The color of the wingtips you posted? Exactly what I'd want if I could pick any color for a dressier shoe. I don't have a good brown in my rotation. I liked the mocha on the shoes I sent back last autumn, but the depth of color in the shell just has that extra, organic visual texture to it. And it's universal.  From khaki to a navy suit, you can't go wrong. I absolutely love Horween's color 8, too. If I decide to get anything above my current quality/price threshold, it's one of those two leathers that I'd be lusting after.

Yeah their filter doesn't always work.

Depth of color on shell is what got me into Shell at first last year. Earlier I used to scoff at the comments in this thread about shell being addictive and all but not anymore. Out of my last 7 shoe purchases since then 5 have been shell, 1 calf and 1 suede. After my first shell pair (brown Strands), Calf leather never felt same.

post #143 of 17674
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Went down the Internet rabbit hole and ended up on an askandy thread from 2009 where someone posted pics of the "new models" upcoming at that time.



This kind of looks like a Vernon on the Cornwallis last. Love it, don't think it ever made it into production?

Kinda like a Vernon/Rutledge hybrid.
post #144 of 17674
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post
. After my first shell pair (brown Strands), Calf leather never felt same.

I can believe it. Even the small difference from the regular AE to the independence line is a jump. At least in my collection.

 

The quality of any cordovan I've seen in the wild is palpable. It really is a great looking leather, beyond the toughness. I wonder if the fact that it's so hard to dye is why it ends up with such an organic quality. I didn't understand at first, but looking how shoes wear, and seeing everyone's pictures here, you can see how you'll get an extra resole out of it, too. That gentle roll instead of an ever deepening crease is something. Maybe the toughness is not enough to pay twice as much for shoes, but add the durability to the look...

post #145 of 17674
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Originally Posted by MattRiv View Post

Kinda like a Vernon/Rutledge hybrid.

Almost forgot this.
post #146 of 17674
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


Someone activated the batsignal! But alas, this Delta in-flight wifi won't let me upload images. Stay tuned!

Edit: here ya go


They're so amazing.  Sigh.

post #147 of 17674
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

Went down the Internet rabbit hole and ended up on an askandy thread from 2009 where someone posted pics of the "new models" upcoming at that time.



This kind of looks like a Vernon on the Cornwallis last. Love it, don't think it ever made it into production?

Looks like the 000 last.
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post

Right on, they increased the price very recently and it was almost across the board for most of Peal & Co. line. I got these for approx. $500 during a sale event as well. Fit wise, I take 10E in strands/daltons and 10D in these feels very comfy.

Yeah their filter doesn't always work.
Depth of color on shell is what got me into Shell at first last year. Earlier I used to scoff at the comments in this thread about shell being addictive and all but not anymore. Out of my last 7 shoe purchases since then 5 have been shell, 1 calf and 1 suede. After my first shell pair (brown Strands), Calf leather never felt same.

I felt the same way....until I tried Vass calf. smile.gif
post #148 of 17674
Hi all, with the new NJ outlet opening soon I was wondering if they run some kind of grand opening sale. Or would it just be whatever the current seconds sale is nationally?
post #149 of 17674
Just ordered a University in walnut and a Boone in sand. Waited until the last day of the sale, but have wanted the University for awhile. And who doesn't need a buck right before summer?
post #150 of 17674
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


I felt the same way....until I tried Vass calf. smile.gif

that's interesting, is Vass calf that much better in terms of how it wrinkles, thickness, softness etc?  Argh...now I have to go to Vass thread..

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