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Hmm, I like that green Messenger they are selling on clearance.   Not a huge fan of logos being visible though.   

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My advice would be to bar lace those so that you can get max closure using the method outlined at this link: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straighteuropeanlacing.htm

I have a narrow flat foot (12 B) and I find that lacing my wider shoes in this way will help me to lock my foot into the shoe and eliminate the bowing that you see in your pics. Also, make sure you tie them tight. Give it a try and send us some new pics for evaluation.

 

Alright @MattRiv @DustinM @cc808314 @M635Guy @orange fury @columnsofsteam and others - here are some photos I took this morning:


Fifth Avenues - 11C and now European Traditional Straight Laced, and with tongue pad...looks a little better I think - what do y'all think?

 

 

 

 

 

Mora 2.0 - 11.5B - these definitely have the least amount of bowing. Probably due to how tight the first buckle is and how it affects the ankle area?

 

 


Strands 11C with tongue pad - Even with criss-cross lacing, less noticeable bowing than the Fifth Avenues, although same last:
 

 

 



Next thing I want to try before making a "please have mercy on my soul" phone call to AE is a 1/2 length or 3/4 length insole.  Dr. Scholl's PRO Pain Arch Support and Profoot Flat Fix are in the mail, will be here on Wednesday. 
 

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what do y'all think?

 

The Moras definitely look the best of the three, though something about them still doesn't look quite right. Both the 65-lasted styles seem to be sitting oddly on your right foot, most noticeably in the front-view shots -- do you have any previous injuries that may be complicating things? Based on the nearly-closed v-gap and the fact that you're already using a tongue pad but still have a pretty solid amount of bowing at the ankles, I'd think going narrower would be a good place to start.

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The Moras definitely look the best of the three, though something about them still doesn't look quite right. Both the 65-lasted styles seem to be sitting oddly on your right foot, most noticeably in the front-view shots -- do you have any previous injuries that may be complicating things? Based on the nearly-closed v-gap and the fact that you're already using a tongue pad but still have a pretty solid amount of bowing at the ankles, I'd think going narrower would be a good place to start.


Thanks for the input - no injuries other than being born with feet flatter than a pancake!  Also I belive my left foot measures close to a 10.5 and my right closer to 11.

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Alright @MattRiv @DustinM @cc808314 @M635Guy @orange fury @columnsofsteam and others - here are some photos I took this morning:


Fifth Avenues - 11C and now European Traditional Straight Laced, and with tongue pad...looks a little better I think - what do y'all think?

 

 

 

 

 

Mora 2.0 - 11.5B - these definitely have the least amount of bowing. Probably due to how tight the first buckle is and how it affects the ankle area?

 

 


Strands 11C with tongue pad - Even with criss-cross lacing, less noticeable bowing than the Fifth Avenues, although same last:
 

 

 



Next thing I want to try before making a "please have mercy on my soul" phone call to AE is a 1/2 length or 3/4 length insole.  Dr. Scholl's PRO Pain Arch Support and Profoot Flat Fix are in the mail, will be here on Wednesday. 
 

IMO, that shoe is too big for you as it should be tight around your ankles.  Your feet must be swimming in those.  The monks look like a better overall fit in the width area, but I'm not sure if they are too long for you.  Generally, a insole should help your situation, but that's generally not the best way to go about getting a good fit.

 

What did you say your brannock measurement was?

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IMO, that shoe is too big for you as it should be tight around your ankles.  Your feet must be swimming in those.  The monks look like a better overall fit in the width area, but I'm not sure if they are too long for you.  Generally, a insole should help your situation, but that's generally not the best way to go about getting a good fit.

 

What did you say your brannock measurement was?

 

Thanks - interesting thoughts - the shoes are definitely very comfortable with no heel slip but good toe room, so I don't feel like I'm swimming in them.  But maybe I'm wrong.  I recall trying on 10.5D in the 65 last and feeling that was too small...but that was a long time ago.  I need to try again. 

However, I do think I need to give the Mora 2.0's in 11B another try-on - I'm going to do that.  The Mora's in that picture are fresh out of the box from the Shoebank.  I think I'm going to order the same in 11B and just see what the fit is like.

After visiting an AE retail store the "call" was that I was an 11C in the Brannock.  If I remember correctly, the left foot is closer to 10.5 though. I do feel 11C is comfortable in the 65...but whether its a good fit for me is a different story altogether, which I'm learning! 

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As another EE I never thought there would be so many of us represented here - I'd be shocked if anyone at work ever showed up with something better than a bicycle toed pair of Bass.  This forum never ceases to amaze me.

 

+1 to EE here.

 

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Wow, great to see so many EEs!

What do you guys wear to the office? I feel that my AEs with khakis and a polo already get enough attention, but I know I can dress better without being too out of place.

 

I generally wear dress pants (cotton/wool), across many colors (although the loudest I'll go is a medium blue), with a dress shirt that has some check pattern. Today is gray glen plaid pants, white broadcloth shirt, black AE Knox Ave belt, and black PAs.

 

 

Interesting there's so many of you RIT guys (@Middlife, @cc808314, @MrFlux, & @btgoalie91) on here. There's a decent amount of RIT guys at my company, and my RFG vendor (MKS-ENI) is full of RIT folks. Funny enough, an RIT EE professor approached me at Semicon West this summer just to ask if I knew certain RIT people at my company. 

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@Marc S , if I was in your position, I would see a foot doctor first to assess whether these shoes are a good fit for you or not. The fit just doesn't look right, and I wouldn't start experimenting until I have the green light from the Dr.
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Thanks - interesting thoughts - the shoes are definitely very comfortable with no heel slip but good toe room, so I don't feel like I'm swimming in them.  But maybe I'm wrong.  I recall trying on 10.5D in the 65 last and feeling that was too small...but that was a long time ago.  I need to try again. 

However, I do think I need to give the Mora 2.0's in 11B another try-on - I'm going to do that.  The Mora's in that picture are fresh out of the box from the Shoebank.  I think I'm going to order the same in 11B and just see what the fit is like.

After visiting an AE retail store the "call" was that I was an 11C in the Brannock.  If I remember correctly, the left foot is closer to 10.5 though. I do feel 11C is comfortable in the 65...but whether its a good fit for me is a different story altogether, which I'm learning! 

 

I made this opinion based on 3 things:

 

1. The bowing at the heels.

2. The creasing seems to be a little more heavy than I typically see on my shoes.  This sometimes means that there is too much volume in the vamp of the shoe.

3. Those are new shoes and you already have a vgap that is essentially shut.  

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@Mark S 

 

I agree with the others that those do not look like a good fit for you.  I think there has to be a better option than the size you are currently using -- there is a lot of space around the heel / ankle area.  Perhaps the best thing to do would be to go to the AE store and explain the situation.  I'm sure they would be able to work with you to help you find a better size.  None of my shoes look even close to anything like that.  

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Alright @MattRiv
@DustinM
 @cc808314
@M635Guy
@orange fury
@columnsofsteam
and others - here are some photos I took this morning:



Fifth Avenues - 11C and now European Traditional Straight Laced, and with tongue pad...looks a little better I think - what do y'all think?














Mora 2.0 - 11.5B - these definitely have the least amount of bowing. Probably due to how tight the first buckle is and how it affects the ankle area?








Strands 11C with tongue pad - Even with criss-cross lacing, less noticeable bowing than the Fifth Avenues, although same last:

 











Next thing I want to try before making a "please have mercy on my soul" phone call to AE is a 1/2 length or 3/4 length insole.  Dr. Scholl's PRO Pain Arch Support and Profoot Flat Fix are in the mail, will be here on Wednesday. 

 
Please forgive all the repeated pictures.
It looks to me that you've got a lot of pronation going on there, which is contributing to the gap. You say that you have flat feet. Do your feet have an arch when you're not standing on them?
An insole may be a good call.
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Please forgive all the repeated pictures.
It looks to me that you've got a lot of pronation going on there, which is contributing to the gap. You say that you have flat feet. Do your feet have an arch when you're not standing on them?
An insole may be a good call.

 

@Marc S I agree with with what he is saying here. I'm not a foot specialist or anything but it looks like a considerable pronation which seems more visible in the right foot than the left that is causing or at least contributing to the large gaps on the sides. I don't any lacing method is going to fix the issue. There is also the possibility that the 65 last just doesn't work well for you. Perhaps an insole will help if AE concludes that is your best "fitting" size. Hope you can work it out!

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@Marc S
 I agree with with what he is saying here. I'm not a foot specialist or anything but it looks like a considerable pronation which seems more visible in the right foot than the left that is causing or at least contributing to the large gaps on the sides. I don't any lacing method is going to fix the issue. There is also the possibility that the 65 last just doesn't work well for you. Perhaps an insole will help if AE concludes that is your best "fitting" size. Hope you can work it out!

Sorry if a shoe-less pic is TMI, but thought it might help shed light of my flatfootedness!





(Cc: @mreams99
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@Marc S
 I agree with with what he is saying here. I'm not a foot specialist or anything but it looks like a considerable pronation which seems more visible in the right foot than the left that is causing or at least contributing to the large gaps on the sides. I don't any lacing method is going to fix the issue. There is also the possibility that the 65 last just doesn't work well for you. Perhaps an insole will help if AE concludes that is your best "fitting" size. Hope you can work it out!

Sorry if a shoe-less pic is TMI, but thought it might help shed light of my flatfootedness!





(Cc: @mreams99

 

As others have correctly stated, your feet are pronated because of the collapsing arch that causes your flat feet. This is causing most of the fit issues for the shoes and the excessive weight on the inside of each foot. See the handy illustration below. Before chasing different shoes, I would seek out a good podiatrist (DPM) in your area for an evaluation. It is likely they will wish to address the foot arch issue to see if the pronation can be corrected. Left untreated, the loss of the arch and pronation can lead to other foot issues such as plantar fascitis and more. Once this is addressed, you can revisit the shoe issue as you well may have to find shoes that allow for the insertion of a corrective orthotic. At this time I believe the only AE shoe that is deeper to accommodate an orthotic is the Ashton built on the 678 last. You may also need to visit the Benton that is built on the same 678 last.

 

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Hmm, I like that green Messenger they are selling on clearance.   Not a huge fan of logos being visible though.   

That's what keeps me away from them as well. It bugs me enough having the AE logo at the bottom of all my shoes.
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