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Are you a 10 or 10.5D?

I got one of each Dundee shell burgundy in the recent sale but they are too narrow for me. I'm going to send one back and hold the other until a either a 10E shows up on the shoe bank or my patience runs out and I order firsts.

I'd be happy to sell you one instead of sending back.

Thank you, how very barnweasely of you. Alas, I am mostly an 8.5D but I appreciate the offer. And I know it's slow by the standards set here, but my pace of one pair per month is already at the upper limit of what my spouse can tolerate. I said it a couple weeks ago (but didn't abide by it)... I need to cool it for a little. Let's see if I can make it all the way to October without another acquisition.
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I just got a pair of Hopkinsons 2nds from the previous sale and I almost ate it walking down carpeted stairs at work too!

Haha, glad to hear you almost ate it. I kept hearing how slick an unused leather sole is, but I overestimated my ability to compensate 

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@DNSamurai, Yes, in fifty years I progressed (is that the right word?) from a 9D with a B heel (shoes used to come in more sizes years ago) to a 9EEE by spending most of the fifty years working places where I stood up. On a Brannock device, I now measure close to a 8 1/2 EEEE, but the Allen-Edmonds 9EEE's fit fine in every last I've tried (so far).

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@DNSamurai, Yes, in fifty years I progressed (is that the right word?) from a 9D with a B heel (shoes used to come in more sizes years ago) to a 9EEE by spending most of the fifty years working places where I stood up. On a Brannock device, I now measure close to a 8 1/2 EEEE, but the Allen-Edmonds 9EEE's fit fine in every last I've tried (so far).

 

This is an interesting comment.  Are you saying that you used to be able to order Allen Edmonds shoes with various heel sizes?  

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The lust for shell cordovan is well known on the forum, but it was difficult for me to initially understand how shell could be nearly double the cost of calf. Setting aside if it was worth the extra cost, I wanted to know what drove the price. This little video sheds some light on the process of making shell cordovan. The labor cost and 6 months of tanning time for shell is double that of calf which is 3 months. This is worsened by the fact that the shell of one horse is needed for a single pair of shoes and the supply of horse hides continues to shrink. Enjoy the video for those who may not have seen it.

 

 

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@Lobster33, fifty years ago I wore Johnston & Murphy (made in USA) shoes.  I didn't have to order them.  Stores used to carry men's shoes in many size and heel variations.  Somehow over the years this has changed.

Here I am nearly fifty years ago (in April 1968) wearing a pair of Johnston & Murphy (made in USA) 9D with B heels black cap toes (with rubber soles and heels)......

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......and here I am in late May 2016 wearing MTO (rubber soles and heels) Allen-Edmonds 9EEE black Rutledges.


(Wearing the same Santa Fe Railway employe lapel pin and watch chain (with Hamilton 992B Railway Special) in both pictures.

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Originally Posted by Lobster33 View Post
 

 

This is an interesting comment.  Are you saying that you used to be able to order Allen Edmonds shoes with various heel sizes?  

 

There's a lot of confusion about this.  Shoe widths, like shoe lengths, correspond to actual numerical measurements, at least in theory.  So D = a certain measurement, C = a certain measurement, E = a certain measurement, etc.  The ankle of a standard dress shoe is always two sizes smaller than the forefoot.  So a shoe with a D forefoot (the listed width) will ALWAYS have a B heel.  Just as a shoe that is an E will always have a C heel.  Most shoe manufacturers just list the forefoot width, so it will be listed as a D.  Some choose to list both, so D/B.  But the difference is always two sizes.  The idea that you used to be able to order Aldens or AEs with a "combination size" is a misnomer.  Alden has always listed both (e.g., D/B) whereas AE used to list both but then switched over to the more common practice of only listing one (D).  However, regardless of how it's listed, the heel is ALWAYS two widths below the forefoot.  If anyone disagrees, please post a photo of a shoe where the width difference is something other than two (e.g. a D/A or an E/D).  They don't exist, unless you're talking bespoke shoes.

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Originally Posted by RTD1 View Post

There's a lot of confusion about this.  Shoe widths, like shoe lengths, correspond to actual numerical measurements, at least in theory.  So D = a certain measurement, C = a certain measurement, E = a certain measurement, etc.  The ankle of a standard dress shoe is always two sizes smaller than the forefoot.  So a shoe with a D forefoot (the listed width) will ALWAYS have a B heel.  Just as a shoe that is an E will always have a C heel.  Most shoe manufacturers just list the forefoot width, so it will be listed as a D.  Some choose to list both, so D/B.  But the difference is always two sizes.  The idea that you used to be able to order Aldens or AEs with a "combination size" is a misnomer.  Alden has always listed both (e.g., D/B) whereas AE used to list both but then switched over to the more common practice of only listing one (D).  However, regardless of how it's listed, the heel is ALWAYS two widths below the forefoot.  If anyone disagrees, please post a photo of a shoe where the width difference is something other than two (e.g. a D/A or an E/D).  They don't exist, unless you're talking bespoke shoes.

Awesome post, learned something brand new today!
post #12309 of 19327

Loving the HMs. A bit blobby from my point of view but they do look great from any other angle.

 

 

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Even included a drink this time.

MAAAAANNNN those are sharp!! Oxblood Warwicks? I was planning on walnut Daltons for my next acquisition, but I might have to re-think that. Those are superb. 

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These bad boys will always have a special place in my heart. One of my first AE purchases

Note the product placed tee. Always reminding me where I'd rather be.
post #12312 of 19327
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MAAAAANNNN those are sharp!! Oxblood Warwicks? I was planning on walnut Daltons for my next acquisition, but I might have to re-think that. Those are superb. 
Oxblood over erythannnnnnggggg. But for real, oxblood over everything. Check the Dalton in oxblood? That might be right up your alley
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There are several pairs that I want quite a bit but I just know they will see little to no wear. It is quite frustrating. This is the part where it is difficult to be anywhere near a computer or even this forum. Those brooks brother Dukes are calling my name particularly with matching belt on clearance... But I already have BB kenwoods with similar look that do not get enough love as it is. 

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Haven't seen any navy around here lately and haven't worn mine a ton so here they are in the office. I've yet to expose these to concrete and only 3-4 wears in. Natural creasing on them is strange, and really stiff. But they close and fit better than my other strands so that's a plus.
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Haven't seen any navy around here lately and haven't worn mine a ton so here they are in the office. I've yet to expose these to concrete and only 3-4 wears in. Natural creasing on them is strange, and really stiff. But they close and fit better than my other strands so that's a plus.

 

I've had similar experience with mine. They crease differently and actually I have more volume in the toe than normal. Still love them but they fit a bit differently. Wore mine last week but I've found that I really don't wear them as much as I hoped I would.

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