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Jox, I have to agree. We as customers should demand more. I see papery wrinkles on shoes that sell for enough, that they should not be there. It is totally unacceptable and unfortunately it is not limited to AE.

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Although I have watched a number of videos on making leather, I only recently saw this piece on creating shell cordovan at the Horween factory. Enjoy it if it is new to you as well.

 

Horween Genuine Shell Cordovan from Horween Leather on Vimeo.

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Afternoon smfdoc took the wife to the movies. A horrible experience as it was dark and not a soul could see my shoes.

 

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Well, they made me feel special, so at least I have that going for me.

I hear ya. AE does have great customer service, but there is a pervasive wisdom that, were they better at QC, they would not have to rely upon their CS so much.
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So after rereading them both today, I think the first post in this thread should cite to both of @Neo1's fit sizing and last guides. @watchidiot, can you still edit the first post or is it too late?
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I mean, they should put that note on ALL their orders.

Technically, they shouldn't HAVE to write that at all.

I disagree. CXL is a very wrinkly leather, and will crease significantly after not too much wear. These are meant to be rough casual boots, and I bet most consumers aren't bothered too much by the things we're bothered by.
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I disagree. CXL is a very wrinkly leather, and will crease significantly after not too much wear. These are meant to be rough casual boots, and I bet most consumers aren't bothered too much by the things we're bothered by.



I know it is and does, but they shouldn't set the bar so low.  

 

As an aside, I have two pairs of Oak Street Bootmakers beefroll loafers (brown CXL and natural CXL) and both have been worn dozens of time but don't develop any ugly "fat wrinkles."

 

But I agree that, in general, CXL boots are not bought to baby or to keep looking pretty.

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I know it is and does, but they shouldn't set the bar so low.  

As an aside, I have two pairs of Oak Street Bootmakers beefroll loafers (brown CXL and natural CXL) and both have been worn dozens of time but don't develop any ugly "fat wrinkles."

But I agree that, in general, CXL boots are not bought to baby or to keep looking pretty.

Yeah, some patterns lend themselves to more rolls and creases than others. Any plain toe shoe or boot will be a major offender.

Here's a prime example from Alden:



I guess I'm just assuming most non-Barnweasel consumers won't care too much.
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Went to two more NR's today, but barely found anything from AE.  I did find a really old Park Ave in burgundy in size 8 B.  It had the old style size written on the upper of the shoe.  That thing has probably been there for years.  Also found one Magnanni navy blue belt for a dirty cheap price, but sadly, one size too tight for me.  

 

So far...

 

Good NR:

 

-South Coast Plaza

-Pasadena

 

Bad NR:

 

-Ontario

-Orange

-Burbank

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Went to two more NR's today, but barely found anything from AE.  I did find a really old Park Ave in burgundy in size 8 B.  It had the old style size written on the upper of the shoe.  That thing has probably been there for years.  Also found one Magnanni navy blue belt for a dirty cheap price, but sadly, one size too tight for me.  

So far...

Good NR:

-South Coast Plaza
-Pasadena

Bad NR:

-Ontario
-Orange
-Burbank

Now I feel like I will be patrolling the NRs around me only to be massively disappointed to never find another deal like my Fullertons.
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Now I feel like I will be patrolling the NRs around me only to be massively disappointed to never find another deal like my Fullertons.

 

I hear ya.  After finding that blue Park Ave, my hopes went unrealistically high.  I'll be lucky to find anything again that is in my size that is a good find.

 

I also found a Carlyle in walnut today that had a sticker on it stating "worn and refinished".   There was no indention in the footbed, and it looked new with a few winkles.  

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Sheffield Parks looking forward to Fall.

[correction: I meant Shaker Heights, I guess it's been a long weekend]


Edited by pbrandes - 9/5/16 at 6:54pm
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Aren't those the Shaker Heights?
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Aren't those the Shaker Heights?

 

They sure are.

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To me there is a difference - and I think a qualitative difference - between a leather being prone to wrinkle once worn, eg CXL, and leather cut from the belly and already wrinkled when the boot leaves the factory.

The shoes pictured up thread leading to this discussion were brand new and, IIRC, sold as firsts. In my experience, "good" CXL doesn't look like that new. I've heavily worn my two pair of Maritimes (firsts) and my Long Branches and Clark Streets (seconds) for over a year and none of them have that fat belly look.

But PC is right, AE figures most people won't mind for a casual boot such as the HM and I imagine they're right. My Dublin Sauk Drives arrived that way. I decided to keep them. For what they are and for how I use them, they're fine.
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