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I agree with the above, plus I think the natural competition the Higgins Mill is something like a Red Wing Beckman which retails around $325-350, but can often be found below $300 on sale.  It may be that AE wants to get them out there on the streets and create some buzz.  

The "defects" that have been brought up have been minor for the most part.  Possibly if they had been bought in a store some people would have swapped them for another from the in-store stock or even wait on a reorder.  But for all those people, there would likely be an equal number that would have just walked out the store as is.

The Higgins Mill is a causal work style boot.  IMO, while structural defects or blatantly bad leather is NOT acceptable, the small dings and scuffs or sloppy welt joints are not quite the same as loose grain or scratches on a pair of Park Avenues or Daltons.  As a pull-up leather, CXL is quite soft and pliable, its going to dent and crease quite readily on its own, and remember light scratches can typically rubbed out with your finger by redistributing the oils.

That is how I feel also....it is a casual boot...Ive actually always just asssumed the slight indentation in the toe was intentional...I remember noticing it when I originally went to go scout them in the store before I ever even placed an order... if youve ever owned a strandmok in brown or tan, you know that certain casual models are intentionally pre-distressed/pre-scuffed by AE for visual effect. Some people dislike this technique and Im not saying thats necessarily the case with the Higgins Mill, but with it being an overwhelmingly casual cxl boot, I wouldnt be surprised if it were the case (especially since the "problem" is so consistent and widely pervasive). But I actually really like the shape of the boot, myself.
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Those look terrific! I've seen so many inspirational style photos of Bruce Boyer or anonymous elderly Italian or Japanese dudes in tobacco-colored suede shoes that I've always thought about getting a pair for myself, but can never bring myself to pull the trigger at full retail, if only because, splitting my time between Buffalo and Brooklyn, there are too many months in the year when suede is borderline unwearable. But to find a pair for that price is incredible!
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Consider yourself lucky!  I've been trying to find those but have had no luck.  Very nice, indeed, and a great price.  You never know what you'll find at the Rack...
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This is just speculation, but if the Madison Park was made for Nordstrom specifically (which it was) and the Stuttgart was made specifically for NR (idk), then I would go Madison Park as there is a pretty good chance that lesser materials were used to make the Stuttgart.
Stuttgart was made for the European market, along with a few others I can't remember at the moment. Should be mainline quality materials.
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Stuttgart was made for the European market, along with a few others I can't remember at the moment. Should be mainline quality materials.

Thank you. I was not sure. An SA who seemed to know his stuff did told me that AE does also manufacturer some models that are specifically for NR using lesser materials, but not what models.
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I think the Riverside and Madison Ave are, at least in person they seem slightly less quality than the mainline shoes.
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That is how I feel also....it is a casual boot...Ive actually always just asssumed the slight indentation in the toe was intentional...I remember noticing it when I originally went to go scout them in the store before I ever even placed an order... if youve ever owned a strandmok in brown or tan, you know that certain casual models are intentionally pre-distressed/pre-scuffed by AE for visual effect. Some people dislike this technique and Im not saying thats necessarily the case with the Higgins Mill, but with it being an overwhelmingly casual cxl boot, I wouldnt be surprised if it were the case (especially since the "problem" is so consistent and widely pervasive). But I actually really like the shape of the boot, myself.


It's not just the HM that has dents.  It's the others that are on sale as well. Alumnus that I got was very dented and so was the Oakstreet.  I think they are growing so fast they are having quality control issues.  I did speak to AE CAC and they said dents are not supposed to be on the toe box.  Maybe a shipping damage from the boots hitting each other or stacking them.

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Saw the Stuttgart on Hautelook. Any info on the last and general opinions on the style? Perhaps compared to the Madison Park?
TIA for the help.
 

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Originally Posted by St Hubbins View Post

This is just speculation, but if the Madison Park was made for Nordstrom specifically (which it was) and the Stuttgart was made specifically for NR (idk), then I would go Madison Park as there is a pretty good chance that lesser materials were used to make the Stuttgart. So unless something about the fit of the MP doesn't suit you, go that way. I am very pleased with the quality of leather used to make my MPs. They are forming very gentle creases at the bend. No loose grain BS.

P.S. I meant to quote @Lmrjfud

 

Stuttgart is a European model made on the Players' pattern—I've asked AE CS about it before. You can find them at a couple of German stockists, e.g.: http://www.schuhe-lueke.com/allen-edmonds-mens-shoes-player--stuttgart-1313210028.aspx 

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Working from home today in my addisons. This might be their last spin of the season. Can't have them taking up valuable closet real estate with boot season approaching!


My daily @dapkicks pic: (Click to show)
@ Middlep, let's not rush the seasons too much, still have to put more wear on my Woodstocks and Enfield's!
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Another ebay fail.  Seller states "Only been worn a few times."  A few does not mean 50 times.



I usually ignore the sellers estimate of wear. For me, the best indications are a good picture of the sole and also of the insole. The insole shows a good representation of the wear by looking at the gold printing of the logo and text. The picture of the sole, such as the one you have here, gives a good representation of how many times the shoe has been worn and under what conditions. For rubber sole shoes I always inspect the heels closely as that is where it wears down quickest. It's a red flag for me if these photos are not part of the selection on the Ebay ad. If they are missing I ask for them to be taken and sent to me for review.
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It's not just the HM that has dents.  It's the others that are on sale as well. Alumnus that I got was very dented and so was the Oakstreet.  I think they are growing so fast they are having quality control issues.  I did speak to AE CAC and they said dents are not supposed to be on the toe box.  Maybe a shipping damage from the boots hitting each other or stacking them.


Hmm thats interesting...that puts it into a new perspective for me.
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Another ebay fail.  Seller states "Only been worn a few times."  A few does not mean 50 times.

 

i have been taught since medical school that however much my patients tell me they drink, multiply by 3.  turns out this works outside of medicine as well...

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Haven't posted here before, but I wanted to share my recent purchase with you gents!

I managed to get a great looking pair of the Brooks Brothers grain leather Macniels in chili from the shoebank. They are a great addition my my Elgins, Players Shoe, and Fifth Aves!





Pardon the Elgins, I recently oiled them and liked how it darkened the leather, so I put another coat on last night after polishing up my new Macneils.
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Visiting my neighbor in the hospital.  Snuff Dundee 2.0.

 

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Haven't posted here before, but I wanted to share my recent purchase with you gents!

I managed to get a great looking pair of the Brooks Brothers grain leather Macniels in chili from the shoebank. They are a great addition my my Elgins, Players Shoe, and Fifth Aves!





Pardon the Elgins, I recently oiled them and liked how it darkened the leather, so I put another coat on last night after polishing up my new Macneils.

 

@CharlesThe1337, welcome to the thread. Nice group of shoes there. Watch out for the bad influence of the guys on the thread. Before long you will become convinced your group photo is just a "starter set."

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Hey Lobster, I am a bit stumped on the sizing of the 5 last. I tried on the 7.5 E's again, they definitely feel better than an 8 D as there wasn't any heel slip. I think I could almost close the V gap. The AE store measured my foot on the brannock and it came out to be 8-8.25 E with thin dress socks. Based on the photos, would you think it will be too big after it breaks in? I've noticed quite a few others with the V gap that looks exactly like the photos from my size 7.5 D which you guys mentioned is too small. Thanks again. Any inputs from others would be great too.



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