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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Nordstrom rack is selling the Fairfax online. Anyone seen these in person? Trying to determine if these are true first quality, or if they are the made-for-rack versions.


I will let you know, I picked one up and it's already shipped.  I used my Nordy's notes!  :)

post #11657 of 17586
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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Nordstrom rack is selling the Fairfax online. Anyone seen these in person? Trying to determine if these are true first quality, or if they are the made-for-rack versions.

I've seen numerous pairs at the Rack, just not my size. They looked in pretty good condition and seemed like first quality AE shoes. Also they didn't have the seconds stamp.
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I started a vintage shoe thread and we recently discussed a spade sole, which AE actually carried in 1960. It has come in and out of style several times, but its absence if probably now 50 years. I found it interesting that an alteration in the shape of the sole, but not the shoe, could be used as a design element. I would think that a really competent cobbler could create this look on an old pair of shoes that were being recrafted for one who really wanted a vintage look. Here is the shoe from AE, and then an actual 1940s Stetson shoe owned and submitted by @meister. The spade feature really shows well on the outside of the left shoe, against the white background in the image. Anyone up to wearing this look now?

 

 

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A shell fitting question. My limited experience with shell is that it seems more difficult to pull it tightly to the last during construction. I have trued the same size and style in calf and shell, and the shell fits looser and, for me, more comfortable.

 

My experience with Park Ave is that it and other 65 lasted balmoral shoes fit too tightly across the vamp and the V gap is unacceptably wide. I am tempted to order a shell PA from the bank in the hopes that it fits better for me than calf. To those who have experience with shell and calf in the 65 last, this a realistic possibility? Or is my desire for more shell, like my lust for the high school cheerleader, simply a misplaced and an unobtainable fantasy?

My experience with AE shell is that it fits a lot looser than calf in the same size. I don't have experience in 65 last since it doesn't work for me all that well. But I've had to go 1/2 size down from some lasts when I went with shell. 222 last comes to mind.  Alden has a lot more uniformity in calf vs shell.

 

The good news is that AE has a great return policy.  

post #11660 of 17586
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I started a vintage shoe thread and we recently discussed a spade sole, which AE actually carried in 1960. It has come in and out of style several times, but its absence if probably now 50 years. I found it interesting that an alteration in the shape of the sole, but not the shoe, could be used as a design element. I would think that a really competent cobbler could create this look on an old pair of shoes that were being recrafted for one who really wanted a vintage look. Here is the shoe from AE, and then an actual 1940s Stetson shoe owned and submitted by @meister
. The spade feature really shows well on the outside of the left shoe, against the white background in the image. Anyone up to wearing this look now?





Doesn't Meccariello do something like this on some of his shoes?
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Doesn't Meccariello do something like this on some of his shoes?

On request, he will. GG also does this in their Deco line.
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Originally Posted by smfdoc View Post
 

A shell fitting question. My limited experience with shell is that it seems more difficult to pull it tightly to the last during construction. I have trued the same size and style in calf and shell, and the shell fits looser and, for me, more comfortable.

 

My experience with Park Ave is that it and other 65 lasted balmoral shoes fit too tightly across the vamp and the V gap is unacceptably wide. I am tempted to order a shell PA from the bank in the hopes that it fits better for me than calf. To those who have experience with shell and calf in the 65 last, this a realistic possibility? Or is my desire for more shell, like my lust for the high school cheerleader, simply a misplaced and an unobtainable fantasy?

 

It might be worth a shot.  You never know how shoes will fit until you try them on.  The materials something is made out of makes a bigger difference in fit in my experience than the last.   If your lust is misplaced, as someone else said, you won't lose anything by returning.   

 

I tried on the Maritime today and they fit so well in my usual size that I ordered a pair in Jade.   I then went to the Rack and was surprised to find at leas a dozen AE shoes.  Most of them were not shoes I was interested in, but a few definitely caught my eye.  I only looked at sizes 7-9.  

 

Gobi (nice, but the blue PA was nicer):

 

 

Lots of Kenilwoths (these actually fit me really well, but they were priced too high)

 

You never know what you might find at NR.

post #11663 of 17586
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Originally Posted by 3lilnags View Post

Nordstrom rack is selling the Fairfax online. Anyone seen these in person? Trying to determine if these are true first quality, or if they are the made-for-rack versions.

 

I can't speak to the current crop, but in 2012 I bought a pair at Nordstrom Rack.  They had a seconds stamp, but seemed like first quality as far as I'm concerned (there may have been a cosmetic issue but overall the leather and manufacturing quality seemed very good).

 

Ultimately I sold them because I don't like the 5 last.  

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I think a spectator with a spade sole looks great.

Shifting gears, do folks think the Bradley runs true to size? I think the Long Branch is also on the 511 and I find it seems TTS. I wonder if the Bradley does as well.
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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post

I think a spectator with a spade sole looks great.

Shifting gears, do folks think the Bradley runs true to size? I think the Long Branch is also on the 511 and I find it seems TTS. I wonder if the Bradley does as well.

In my experience the Ling Branch and Dundee (shell) fit looser than Bradley, Townley, or Dalton. I think the leather used in Long Branch doesn't stretch as much as calf, so they last it more loosely, like cordovan. Those last three are about the same.

I've owned all of those at one point or another.

I also take the same size in all last's except 511-G (Voyager)
Edited by peppercorn78 - 8/28/16 at 5:53am
post #11666 of 17586
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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post

I think a spectator with a spade sole looks great.

Shifting gears, do folks think the Bradley runs true to size? I think the Long Branch is also on the 511 and I find it seems TTS. I wonder if the Bradley does as well.

I have the Bradley in shell. I am an 11D in the 1, 4 and 7. I used to own the Wilbert and I feel the Bradley is a smidge looser and more comfortable, but that is probably due to shell more than anything else. I don't have any others on the last to compare, but running true to size seems to be a safe bet.
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tried swapping the brown Higgins Mill's brown laces with the tan laces from the natty. I rather like it. There are probably cheaper ways to get this lacing look, but my inner barn weasel thinks it's an excellent reason to buy both...

 

 

That's a nice look!  Although buying an extra pair of waxed laces would probably do the trick. I measured the Higgins Mill wax laces at 56 inches on my 7.5 3E pair.

 

Has anyone had issues with the speed hooks on the Higgins Mill flopping around?  On the first wear, I noticed that one of the speed hooks rotates freely in a circle while a second hook does so with minimal force.  I'll have to contact AE customer service about this.

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I notice that the brown shell Strand is on the website, but my (potential) sizes show 8-week backlog.  I'd like a cap-toe that works in my rotation, and I love the idea of brown shell.  

 

Current Scenario: As some of y'all might remember, I'm great in my 11.5D McTs (and Jingle Bell Mok) in the 5-last, but the Strand in that size is problematic for me - I find it tight overall, big V on closure and a little tight at the toe.  I've tried every combination I can - 11.5D, 11.5E, 11.5EE, 12D, 12E - maybe a few others.  Tight became heel-slip/gap or the ball of my foot being too forward, or no significant improvement in the gap (11.5E - though that is probably the right size for comfort - even that was a little tight but would probably break in fine - not sure if the V-closure would have settled in enough).  I don't have those issues with the McTs/JBMs, other than closure was initially kind of wide on the McTs but has since settled in very nicely - minimal gap.  I've heard AE shell tends to be a little looser than the calf equivalent.  I fit fine in Alden's Hampton last in a 11.5E, but getting brown shell seems like an unlikely dream and the brown calf just doesn't make me tingle, especially for the money.

 

The Questions:  Assuming the more-generous thing is true, Is a brown shell 11.5E likely to have better fit/closure than its calf counterpart?  Are these built-to-order or are they "stock" (at least for the purposes of try-on/return/etc.).  Is this folly to even consider/pursue?

 

I don't want to experiment just because a return policy is in play - if the chances are low I'm just not going to bother and keep an eye out for an 11.5E Alden second at Shoemart...

post #11669 of 17586
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Originally Posted by Count de Monet View Post

I think a spectator with a spade sole looks great.

Shifting gears, do folks think the Bradley runs true to size? I think the Long Branch is also on the 511 and I find it seems TTS. I wonder if the Bradley does as well.

My Bradleys are the same size as my 5 last.  I would say it is TTS.

post #11670 of 17586

Also - is "order from the Palo Alto store" something that anyone can do and they'll ship (for free?)?

 

I'll actually be in the Bay Area in a couple weeks - wonder if I can buy and have them hold a pair of Academys...

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