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However, oddly enough, I believe you can still order through the Japanese site, although it's tricky...

 

 

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Pray tell?

 

You used to be able to order via the Japanese Maker's Shirt site and I did a bit of a write-up on how to do it in the Kamakura Shirts thread some time back.

 

However, I'm pretty sure that the option for international shipping was removed a while later, and now all international orders are routed through the US-based, Kamakura Shirts website. It's a pity, as the Japanese Maker's Shirt site usually has a considerably larger selection than does the Kamakura Shirts site.

 

Edited to add: I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that all international orders are shipped from Japan which makes the decision to only use the Kamakura Shirts website for international orders rather odd, but there's presumably some sort of business rationale behind it...


Edited by Journeyman - 10/11/16 at 5:20am
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The shops themselves are interesting. They look similar to the cheap to mid range menswear ships we have hear, and I suppose that's where they fit into in Japan. This one here is in a hallway underneath Tokyo station.

I noticed that people, in this case dressed classically on average quite well and considerably better than Australians. After spending a month walking around and looking at all kinds of shops, I concluded that even the cheapest of stores sell nice clothes. The Japanese equivalents of Politix and RDX have well styled items, and whilst I'm sure the quality isn't great, it looked quite nice and would receive warm praise if shown off on here.

I went into a few nondescript mid range shops selling suits from $400-$800 AUD, in house models that blew away anything MJB and Herringbone had to offer interns of style, features, and quality.

As for Kamakura shirts, I cannot recommend them enough. If I was more sensible and less obsessed with fit, I would buy all my shirts from them.
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Anyone have issues receiving parcels recently? I have one that arrived in Australia almost two weeks ago and another one that arrived on Friday and have yet to receive either

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As for Kamakura shirts, I cannot recommend them enough. If I was more sensible and less obsessed with fit, I would buy all my shirts from them.

 

Well, fit is king. 

 

However, as with pretty much everything, it's a matter of striking a balance.

If you can get a well-made shirt that meets all of your other criteria but is a bit wide in the shoulders or a bit long in the sleeves, but costs $90, then you're probably better off getting four of those than paying $400 for a shirt that fits absolutely all of your criteria (unless, of course, you're fabulously wealthy).

 

Japan certainly does have a lot of great clothing stores. Places like The Suit Company x Universal Language or Suit Select will sell you fantastic suits for $400-$500 and stores like Beams will sell you a suit by one of their house brands for $600-$800. I've heard that some of Beams' suits are made by Ring Jacket, but those ones cost a bit more but are still fantastic value.

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Anyone have issues receiving parcels recently? I have one that arrived in Australia almost two weeks ago and another one that arrived on Friday and have yet to receive either

Yeah waiting on five leather jackets, guess taking time in processing.
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I thought Justin O'Shea was from Toowomba or nearby (i.e. SW Qld rather than NW Qld). I might be wrong though.

Anyone from Brisbane (maybe @Journeyman ?)
know anything about The Afternoon Tailors? And what's happening with The Cloakroom these days, stocking Stefano Bemer and hosting Cifonelli trunk shows?! Seems like a big step up?

I was told in London last week (by a fellow Aussie) that WW Chan now visits Australia, but couldn't see this on their website. Anyone know if this is true?

I expect to be moving back in the next 6 months or so, so trying to get the lay of the land...

Cheers
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Yeah waiting on five leather jackets, guess taking time in processing.

Aren't the animals still out in the pasture growing?
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Yeah waiting on five leather jackets, guess taking time in processing.
Hopefully not TOJ ones.
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Wow I never knew who Justin O'Shea was !
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Aren't the animals still out in the pasture growing?

I think they might've just slaughtered them, and they're being served in a Korean restaurant.
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I think they might've just slaughtered them, and they're being served in a Korean restaurant.

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Anyone have issues receiving parcels recently? I have one that arrived in Australia almost two weeks ago and another one that arrived on Friday and have yet to receive either

Yeah waiting on five leather jackets, guess taking time in processing.
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Holy shit I recognised that guy from internetmenswearphotosIdon'tlike, I had no idea he was the creative director of Brioni. I also thought the metallica thing was a joke!

 

Currently reading this article: http://www.gq.com/story/brioni-justin-oshea-interview

 

Sweet jesus, that is the nicest made piece of shit ugly suit I have seen. The idea is to know all the rules and then break them or twist them, not completely reject them and throw them out the window. Sometimes you see people with really unique senses of style, this guy does not convince me though, it looks contrived and it sounds like that's filtered through the entire brand. He looks like an extra at a Sons of Anarchy funeral. His next collection would have been odds on to feature fedoras. It definitely would have featured elderidge knots. Two words to sum up this disaster of a suit: no vents.

 

This guy has also designed his entire collection around his own personal style, without any thought to the heritage of the brand. Watch the video, it is CRINGE WORTHY. "I had to tie everyones ties they were all tying little girls knots". Sometimes if you are swimming against the tide, it's because you're a visionary genius. Most of the time it's because you're an idiot. "I only wear silk shirts". "I really like the elderidge knot".

 

I also recommend going on the brioni website and watching the collection video. This is surely the most polarising direction someone has taken a classical menswear brand down. I actually don't mind some aspects of it (would never wear but they're interesting). It's such a shame to see such beautifully made but just plain weird suit jackets. The 5 inch cuffs poking out, the silk ties, the silk shirts... It's like a whole collection designed by that weird kid you all knew in year 10 at school who used to dress like Neo from the Matrix.

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Justin Oshea is throwback for a Windsor Smith campaign of the last 15 years.

Despise his direction, attitude and logo.

Metallica? Maybe back in In Justice for All days. Now. No

Trash
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I thought Justin O'Shea was from Toowomba or nearby (i.e. SW Qld rather than NW Qld). I might be wrong though.

Anyone from Brisbane (maybe @Journeyman ?)
know anything about The Afternoon Tailors? And what's happening with The Cloakroom these days, stocking Stefano Bemer and hosting Cifonelli trunk shows?! Seems like a big step up?
 

 

 

I think that you might be right - I'm pretty sure that O'Shea spent some of his childhood in Toowoomba, then moved up to near the Gulf of Carpentaria in his teens, before heading for the UK and then mainland Europe. 

 

I don't know anything about The Afternoon Tailors but, having had a quick squizz at their Instagram, it doesn't look that great. They look like they're trying to pull a P.Johnson vibe, with the short trousers with very, very narrow leg openings, worn with sneakers and no socks, but the quality looks pretty ordinary. 

 

I did see something about The Cloakroom offering Bemer and Cifonelli and I was very surprised, given that their earlier suiting was pretty awful. Still, I haven't looked at them for years so it's possible that they've improved over that period and so it's not such a leap. I really don't know if there's a sufficient market for that sort of thing in Brisbane, but I guess that time will tell. To me, The Cloakroom has always been a triumph of style over substance - their stores look good, their marketing is very good and they do a great job of getting publicity, but the end product isn't really very good and most of the people there talk as though they've stepped out of the pages of GQ or having quickly read through several clothing blogs, instead of actually knowing about good tailoring. 

 

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Currently reading this article: http://www.gq.com/story/brioni-justin-oshea-interview

 

He looks like an extra at a Sons of Anarchy funeral. His next collection would have been odds on to feature fedoras. 

 

I absolutely laughed out loud reading your post. 

 

 

 

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Justin Oshea is throwback for a Windsor Smith campaign of the last 15 years.
 

 

Ouch! 

 

Good comment about Metallica, too - given that O'Shea was trying to make Brioni current/funky/relevant/cutting edge etc, it's rather odd that he chose to feature a band that had its heyday about 20 years ago...

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