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You've linked their most expensive kit that is clearly labeled deluxe. It's designed for people who have a bit of money to spend. They sell cheaper kits, the standard at $129 and the cheapest at $89.

Right, because that was the one that the OP linked me to. Anyway, I think $89 is still expensive, especially with a boar brush and Derby/Personna blades that will cut the skin more often than the hair on anybody with ever so slightly thick hair; this might push people back to the cartridges. At least they include a Feather pack.

 

This would be my ideal starter kit: 100 Feather blades @ $22.50 (https://www.amazon.com/Feather-Razor-Blades-Hi-stainless-Double/dp/B004RWTQTS)

A decent, well reviewed but budget badger brush (boar is much tougher, in my experience taking much more effort to lather) @ $12.50https://www.amazon.com/Escali-100%25-Badger-Shaving-Brush/dp/B003WR3QSG/

A Merkur DE razor, take the 1904 (copy of the vintage Gillette) since it's cheap, travel sized, and has worked well for me for a decade @ $21.50: https://www.amazon.com/Merkur-1904-Safety-Razor-42C/dp/B00278PA12/r

Godrej shaving cream, which is lanolin based and beats all the branded ones (blue one, for the mint fresh effect) @ $3 in the shop next block from my flat.

Total: USD 60 = AUD 80 plus maybe $10-20 shipping and it's equivalent in quality, at least functionally, to the $200 premium pack and definitely to the $129 pack, IMO. I recon Men's Biz could do it for less than me since they're wholesale. I don't think these starter packs are "a discount" but then I am in the price comparison business. 

 

I know I'm ranting. At the end of the day it costs as much as a couple of dinners in town, and it supports an Australian business. 

post #2222 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Epicure View Post

Gentleman,

Could any of you advise if there's an active discussion thread dedicated to umbrellas?

I've not turned up any recent discussion in the threads I've identified so far.

Thank you.

Here you go:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/69654/the-umbrella-cane-riding-crop-and-miscellaneous-accessories-porn-thread

While on the topic, I'm in the market for a new one. I know that DM has some English ones (Fox?).

I suspect Buck's and AmTailors do as well, although they might have some Italian ones too, which I vastly prefer.

Any intel on range or prices for Talarico or Maglia would be gratefully received.
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Did anyone else happen to see Aus Member @thebrownman asking some hard questions about domestic violence on ABC's Q&A?

 

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/qa-recap-steve-prices-hysterical-insult-prompts-a-mic-drop-from-van-badham-20160711-gq3jco.html

What a complete shitstorm. My less than five cents:

 

TBM asks a brave and difficult question, but in my (admittedly close to worthless opinion), it's based on the false assumption that language has no context in relation to the Mcguire shitstorm from a few weeks back. Regardless of how much an idiot McGuire and his cronies are, there is no reason to believe that they actually were threatening violence or having anything to do with violence by using certain words. Language is only important in the context in which it is used. People say things that are ridiculous if not considered to a certain context all the time. If you bring a different context to it, not only does it completely remove the concept of intent, but it leads to these stupid storms is teacups. For example:

 

1) Common statement with clear context: "It was a car crash of an interview". Idiot's opinion who ignores intent and context: "That is offensive to car crash victims"

 

2) Common statement with clear context: "He wouldn't shut up in that meeting, I wanted to kill him."  - Idiot's opinion who ignores intent and context: "I'm reporting your murderous intent to HR"

 

3) Common statement with clear context: "That movie was so bad I wanted to kill myself". - Idiot's opinion who ignores intent and context: "How dare you, my cousin committed suicide"

 

We say things all the time that are only relevant to the context of the conversation, and most importantly the intent of the speaker. It is the listener's responsibility to interpret the intent of the speaker and interpret their intended meaning with reference to it. Failing to do so makes conversation impossible, and I think it's actually supreme arrogance to impose the listener's own context on the speech of others.

 

Price is an overpaid git, but I sympathise to some extent with him in this situation. Just because the questioner asks an emotional and extremely personal question, doesn't mean you have to accept their premise. The Q&A audience (TV and social media) is a couple of pitchforks away from an angry mob most of the time and judges most things based on emotive response. Should he have said anything? Probably not, he should have just shut up or made some meaningless comments that might have got some smatterings of applause and head nodding. But that doesn't mean he was wrong. As a side note, I don't think I've ever heard the Q&A audience clap at anything that was worthwhile. They just celebrate meaningless heartfelt speeches or shit cheapshots. It is honestly a show for dumb people that think they're smart. Truly the Big Bang theory of the ABC.

 

And the hysterical comment? Van Badham decided that he was denigrating her for being a woman, rather than just thinking she was wrong. Jesus, the popular opinion in this country is completely inane. You've got Australia's self appointed grand arbitrator of decency and morality Waleed Aly telling Steve Price last night that actually what he says is offensive because of the etymology of the word "hysteria" and its association with the womb. For fuck's sake Waleed, WHAT ABOUT THE INTENT OF THE SPEAKER. The word fuck has something to do with fornicating without the permission of the King. How many people actually intend that particular meaning when they say fuck? Ironically, let me refer to the definition of etymology: the study of the origin of words and the way in which their meanings have changed throughout history.

 

I fucking hate the media and social media's response to the weekly bullshit story about people being offended. I DO think they are being HYSTERICAL, fucking eat me.

post #2225 of 3532

I think your response is also a little hysterical.

post #2226 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Epicure View Post

Gentleman,

Could any of you advise if there's an active discussion thread dedicated to umbrellas?

I've not turned up any recent discussion in the threads I've identified so far.

Thank you.

they were discussed in this thread a few pages ago. i've had good experience with london undercover (previously on sale via end in the UK).
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Thanks for the tip, @conqueror :)

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Originally Posted by LonerMatt View Post
 

I think your response is also a little hysterical.

How. Fucking. Dare. You.

post #2229 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Epicure View Post

Gentleman,

Could any of you advise if there's an active discussion thread dedicated to umbrellas?

I've not turned up any recent discussion in the threads I've identified so far.

Thank you.

I recently had a vintage umbrella restored by this lady. She is the only person left in Australia who still makes umbrellas. I was very happy with the result, but she is a bit difficult to deal with because her English is very bad. Because she's MTO, you have a much better choice of fabric, construction and handle. If you're prepared to pay for something a bit different to the run-of-the-mill black job, she is well worth checking out.
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Thanks, @California Dreamer. I do recall your earlier posts about Mora and thought it could definitely be interesting to pursue that option. I suppose the only deterrent was that I can be a little lazy about these things and prefer if I can order directly through a website that can be (at least relatively) easily navigated. A decent website means most of the information I require is there before me without having to make a thousand and one enquiries to make an order. I suppose if I was more patient, buying an umbrella through Mora would make for an item that's even more exclusive than going custom from one of the reputable UK or Italian manufacturers. Perhaps I'll want a second, but if that is the case I would need to make that decision soon, as I know Moira is really getting on in years. I shall see. Thanks again.

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DR, I don't think we could be friends in real life....

 

TBM, you are awesome.

post #2232 of 3532
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Originally Posted by iSurg View Post
 

DR, I don't think we could be friends in real life....

 

TBM, you are awesome.

That's ok, the treehouse is already full with me, Oli and JimmyHoffa.

 

But I would be interested in a response to the crux of my argument, immature profanity aside (I was a little high on codral whilst writing it).

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1. Eddie Maguire's comment was disgusting. Our media should be held to a higher standard.
2. Steve Price is a wanker.
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post #2235 of 3532
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Originally Posted by Oli2012 View Post

1. Eddie Maguire's comment was disgusting. Our media should be held to a higher standard.
2. Steve Price is a wanker.

 

I'm pretty sure that we can all agree on both of those points. 

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