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Thanks

What was your mode of contact with him? Does he reply to email at all? Would you know how long before one could get a fitting with him?
Hi mate please send me a pm with your details and I'll see if I can get you in touch with him. He is a stockist of mine but has always been a part time operation in between his full time job and has a young family. Still, hopefully I can get you guys in touch.
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Thanks

 

What was your mode of contact with him? Does he reply to email at all? Would you know how long before one could get a fitting with him?

 

I think you can make bookings through this link - http://www.hermanbros.com.au/bookings

 

I believe I had to wait 2 months for my last fitting (he only sees people on weekends).

post #2028 of 3528

Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts regarding burgundy, particularly crdb for a very nice explanation regarding the British vs Italian style and how British style still dominates in Australia nowadays.

 

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On the other hand if you are starting your big corp career, you do not want to stand out too much. I doubt people would tell you off for wearing the wrong coloured shoe (I doubt many back office guys care or give it more than a second's thought) but dressing too well might create a bit of distance.

 

This is exactly what I'm afraid. I'm going to order the Herring Knightsbridge Oxford Black instead of the Loake Strand Burgundy then.

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Burgundy doesn't take well to calf

Calf does mighty fine in burgundy:

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I like burgundy for its versatility and apparently it's the best colour for my navy/charcoal pants and occasional suits according to many people in SF and around the web, and cannot understand why most people in Melbourne just wear black shoes all the time. However as a new introvert, junior and not having a great body shape, I prefer to just blend in instead of making a statement or draw too much attention from people if that is the case.

Burgundy is fine in Australia, we are not in London, and I doubt you are attending court or formal events.. Most men wear black square-toed blobs, or pointy-toed gondolas, or RM Williams (unsuitable for wear with suits imo).

If your burgundy shoes are well-polished and maintained, then wear them in good health and enjoy! People will notice the condition and quality of your shoes before the colour (unless the colour is something too out there like pink or yellow).
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I only like black and brown shoes. Burgundy doesn't take well to calf


Nonsense - I think a well-aged Clos Vougeot is the perfect match for a veal casserole.

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RN had an interesting speaker on Blueprint for Living this AM. Christopher Breward has written The Suit:Form, Function and Style you can listen to it or download it here http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/blueprintforliving/the-history-of-the-suit/7520514

The book is published by Reaktion Books a very interesting Cultural Theory Art publisher and while their books are written by academics they are quite accessible. I've quite a few of their books in my library.
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Happy voting everyone!
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Burgundy with navy/grey is awesome, push posh to this back shoe conformity
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Burgundy with navy/grey is awesome, push posh to this back shoe conformity

 

Absolutely - although I suspect that you mean "pish posh"! 

 

I do have one friend who works for a large, old law firm who was told by an elderly partner that one should never, ever wear brown shoes with a suit. Thankfully, my friend was wearing black shoes at the time. 

 

Apart from that, though, I really think that 99% of places would be fine with you wearing dark brown or burgundy shoes to work. 

 

If you turn up wearing mid-to-light brown double monks and an RAF blue suit, then you may well attract some disapproving looks, but if you're wearing a navy or charcoal suit with chocolate brown or burgundy captoe balmorals, you'd generally be fine. 

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Absolutely - although I suspect that you mean "pish posh"! 

I do have one friend who works for a large, old law firm who was told by an elderly partner that one should never, ever wear brown shoes with a suit. Thankfully, my friend was wearing black shoes at the time. 

Apart from that, though, I really think that 99% of places would be fine with you wearing dark brown or burgundy shoes to work. 

If you turn up wearing mid-to-light brown double monks and an RAF blue suit, then you may well attract some disapproving looks, but if you're wearing a navy or charcoal suit with chocolate brown or burgundy captoe balmorals, you'd generally be fine. 

Think thats debatable JM in Sydney in January that look was everywhere mostly sans tie I think it was the 'IT' business look for the Sydney Summer. I spent a month there and I was spotting that look at leas half a dozen times daily.
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Size 8 Melbourne members might do well to get down to Vinnies Malvern tomorrow. These are not dirt cheap, between $35-$55 but still pretty good value for what they are.

L-R: Prada driving shoes, Artolini Star black suede monkstrap, Tod's navy suede chukka, Louis Vuitton driving shoe.

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Thanks guys for your comments.

 

I understand that burgundy with navy/grey is awesome, that's why I love the colour in the first place. However I'm still not quite sure about "99% of places would be fine with you wearing dark brown or burgundy shoes to work" when you may be one the only few wearing non-black shoes on the whole floor.

 

As you probably know, most of my colleagues and even managers (mix of IT and BAs, back office, big corp) rock to work in mediocre black oxford or derby and I would find it hard for them to not pay (too much?) attention to my shoes, especially when they are "well-polished and maintained". I'm still fairly new to the company and don't want to send the wrong message. 

 

It's kind of funny that after discovering that I've been wearing shitty shoes for a long time, I've spent the last few weeks browsing SF and AAAC to learn about quality dress shoes, trying to find the best and most suitable shoes for my style, only to realise that Australia is not the same as the US and EU when it comes to styles (you can see black everywhere in Melbourne, and it's not just shoes.) While I like the idea of well dressed, I definitely don't want to create the impression that I'm trying too hard to be different or something.

 

Maybe I should play it safe and wait until I've been at the place for a while, and hopefully by that time things have changed a bit towards the non-British side, to consider the burgundy again?

 

Also speaking of dark brown and dark burgundy, anyone thinks the Herring Richmond brogue in brown and the Loake Strand in Burgundy are not dark enough for work? The colour of the Strand is from the review of wurger who is also an Aussie AFAIK and somehow it looks like a medium burgundy to me.

post #2039 of 3528
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Maybe I should play it safe and wait until I've been at the place for a while, and hopefully by that time things have changed a bit towards the non-British side, to consider the burgundy again?

 

Get some runs on the board. Make yourself indispensable. Then wear whatever you fucking well like.

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Spot on coxie.

I also wonder if these classic rules even exist anymore in 99% of workplaces. Casual business seems to be the orthodoxy these days and if you wear a suit (following rules or not) at in at least 3 of the big 4 banks expect to cop smartass comments.
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