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Nice looking Cigar Boots. Enjoy your day! Had a good day today enjoying the sun at Cabrillo National Monument today myself.

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To give you guys a rough idea of what I'm talking about, here's a photo of my foot next to the shoe: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Obviously, this isn't the best way to judge fit, but I was wondering if it looked normal or it screamed size down. Again, this is 10D Brannock sized down to 9.5D (Barrie).

Hard to tell, but guy is that those look too big. Suggest you try a variety of sizes to nail the fit.

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Looking great Andy, those are amongst my favorites!!!

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Long time lurker, first time poster. Hi, everyone smile.gif .


I have a question about shell restoration:

I have my eyes on a color 8 boot in the future. I fear brownout, and prefer the eggplanty color, so I'd use Alden's restoration service in the future. OK, fine.

But, I'd prefer to have Dainite over commando soles in this case, which would require aftermarket work. Which I think means Alden won't touch the shoes then.

Would Alden do refinishing work on the uppers even with modifications to the sole?
If not, how feasible is it to DIY restore shell color, particularly to the deeper purplish Alden color 8 vs stock color 8?


Thanks, guys. I'm enjoying the community here.

Welcome Matt! You can slow the Brownout by using Paste Wax a pidge more as well. You should be able to send to Alden for a refinish (not a restore) if you change the soles.

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You and BK did a good job rocking the PTBs. Enjoy them today!

-Mike
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I'm wondering if I now need to try on 9D, 9E, and maybe even an 8.5E.

What do you guys think?

 

Definitely do not go up a width to E. Barrie already has a very wide heel. If you're experiencing heel slip in the 9.5D, the best choice is probably to try a 10C or a 9.5C. 9D and 9E will be way too short and 8.5E will be impossible. You want your toes to have some room to wiggle and breathe. You could try 9.5C as well, although I would not recommend it. I think the best choice would be to order a pair of 10C and 9.5C and go from there.

 

For most people, the best option with Barrie is to go down a width from their Brannock size, not a 1/2 size in length. However, due to the limited availability of narrow widths, most people go down a 1/2 size in length instead.

 

Alden DC, Alden SF, and TheShoeMart all can order the 9901 in C width for you. There should be stock in the Alden warehouse.

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Welcome Matt! You can slow the Brownout by using Paste Wax a pidge more as well. You should be able to send to Alden for a refinish (not a restore) if you change the soles.

-Mike

 

Thanks mdubs!

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I'm wondering if I now need to try on 9D, 9E, and maybe even an 8.5E.

What do you guys think?

I would opt out of the 9E idea unless you felt so inclined as to humor yourself.

I would try a 9D and 8.5D as finding C widths can be a bit of a challenge. While the 8.5D will likely be too small, it'll give you a good idea of how sizing changes incrementally. However if you have the access, the more the merrier! Trust me when I say a well fitting shoe that supports your foot in all the right places can quite literally brighten your day. Adversely...a sloppy fit can have the inverse effect.
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I would opt out of the 9E idea unless you felt so inclined as to humor yourself.

I would try a 9D and 8.5D. Trust me when I say a well fitting shoe that supports your foot in all the right places can quite literally brighten your day. Adversely...a sloppy fit can have the inverse effect.

 

Respectfully, unless he was sized by a total novice on the Brannock, there is no way a 10D Brannock foot (especially with a high instep) is going to fit into an 8.5D Barrie shoe (especially the PTB, which tends to be a touch tighter than other styles). Given his statement that the toebox on his 9.5D pair feels good, even the 9D will likely be too short for him. An 8.5D is going to be laughably small.

 

Like I said above, the best option for him is to try a 10C and a 9.5C. Going shorter than that is going to lead to crushed toes and some nasty nerve pain down the road.

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Respectfully, unless he was sized by a total novice on the Brannock, there is no way a 10D Brannock foot (especially with a high instep) is going to fit into an 8.5D Barrie shoe (especially the PTB, which tends to be a touch tighter than other styles). Given his statement that the toebox on his 9.5D pair feels good, even the 9D will likely be too short for him. An 8.5D is going to be laughably small.

Like I said above, the best option for him is to try a 10C and a 9.5C. Going shorter than that is going to lead to crushed toes and some nasty nerve pain down the road.

I certainly respect your opinion and I welcome additional insights as I find them beneficial to the entire community...however my own personal experience differs significantly.

As previously mentioned I am both a 10 in length and instep on both of my feet. I've been measured under a variety of different variables (dress socks, boot socks, no sock, 10AM - 9PM) and can definitely claim to be said length beyond any and all reasonable doubt. My width in both feet is closer to a C than D and my arches/instep are low. That said, for me, a 9.5D is huge all-around, a 9.5C is 'okay' in width but too long in length and a 9.5B is too tight. Going down a half size the 9D is pretty good and I still have ~.5" left in toe length. Additionally I wear a UK8.5 in EG's.

I think the overarching theme here is that fit is a relative term unique to the perspective of the wearer. While advice can be offered via second perspective there is absolutely no substitute for a first hand experience trying on different sizes in person.


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Hey guys, I appreciate all the feedback I'm getting with regards to sizing. As a sanity check, I just got back from my local Allen Edmonds store where I got properly measured on the Brannock. What they measured was pretty much exactly what I remembered from the last time I was measured:

 

Heel to toe: 10

Instep: 12

Width: D

 

Because of the high instep, he recommended a 10-10.5 in Allen Edmonds.

 

What's baffling to me is why the 9.5 Barrie looks and feels so long. I tried them on again and there's easily 1.25"+ of extra space. And because of my instep, shouldn't the ball of my foot be resting more forward in a narrower part of the shoe? 


Edited by tobiasfunke - 3/9/16 at 4:39pm
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Color 8 Alt Wein x Epaulet

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Those look great!  I noticed they've released a natty CXL version, but have already sold out of 11.5.  I wish Alden or whoever orders sizing would put a higher mix of 11.5's out there.  Always seems very hard to get..

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Those look great!  I noticed they've released a natty CXL version, but have already sold out of 11.5.  I wish Alden or whoever orders sizing would put a higher mix of 11.5's out there.  Always seems very hard to get..

Thanks! I think there were very few stock units available for the natty Alt Wein, most were spoken for through pre-orders.
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Thanks! I think there were very few stock units available for the natty Alt Wein, most were spoken for through pre-orders.

 



When did the preorder happen? Surprised I missed that...

Still seems true in any case - lots of 11 and 12's in shoes I'm interested in, but 11.5D seems to sell out quickly and often. e.g. Yenni's brown CXL NST's. I'd buy a pair today if she had them in 11.5, but she has an 11 and a 12.
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Originally Posted by tobiasfunke View Post
 

Hey guys, I appreciate all the feedback I'm getting with regards to sizing. As a sanity check, I just got back from my local Allen Edmonds store where I got properly measured on the Brannock. What they measured was pretty much exactly what I remembered from the last time I was measured:

 

Heel to toe: 10

Instep: 12

Width: D

 

Because of the high instep, he recommended a 10-10.5 in Allen Edmonds.

 

What's baffling to me is why the 9.5 Barrie looks and feels so long. I tried them on again and there's easily 1.25"+ of extra space. And because of my instep, shouldn't the ball of my foot be resting more forward in a narrower part of the shoe? 


Traditionally you size at the larger of the ball or toe measurement, and adjust the width accordingly. so in a 12, you'd be closer to a B width (estimating, no factual evidence). I would suggest going to get professionally fit. 

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Thanks! I think there were very few stock units available for the natty Alt Wein, most were spoken for through pre-orders.

 



When did the preorder happen? Surprised I missed that...

I have February 27, 2015 as the date for my preorder for the Epaulet natural Alt Wein.
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Traditionally you size at the larger of the ball or toe measurement, and adjust the width accordingly. so in a 12, you'd be closer to a B width (estimating, no factual evidence). I would suggest going to get professionally fit. 

So I've heard. Based on what I've seen from this 9.5, a 12 would look like clown shoes.

 

My only other pair of dress shoes I have to compare these to is a cheap pair of Stafford Wing tips: http://dappered.com/2014/06/in-review-the-jc-penney-stafford-logan-wingtip/

 

They recommended going a half size down on those, so I went with a 9.5D and they fit perfectly. Placed side by with my Barrie, the Barrie dwarfs the shoe, and is a good inch longer.

 

Is it possible I got a mislabled pair? How much extra toe box space do you guys have when sizing 1/2 down from Brannock?


Edited by tobiasfunke - 3/9/16 at 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by M635Guy View Post
 

Those look great!  I noticed they've released a natty CXL version, but have already sold out of 11.5.  I wish Alden or whoever orders sizing would put a higher mix of 11.5's out there.  Always seems very hard to get..


If you are referring to the just arrive EP natty alt wein, I have 11.5D enroute but might not be keeping them. If you might be interested, PM me and I'll follow back up with you once I get them in my hands and make the determination.

 

Thanks

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