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If you wear a cheap suit that lasts for years, then is the quality good?

post #1 of 15
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I've worn a cheap (albeit altered) £100 suit for the past 3 years, at least 2 times a week.  I've heard cheap suits tend to wear off or something starts to go wrong.  If any cheap suits lasts that long over the years, then does it render it reliable even if the quality and price is "cheap"?

post #2 of 15
Depends, how are things working out for you career wise?
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by David Reeves View Post

Depends, how are things working out for you career wise?

I'm getting paid two million dollars to endorse a whiskey when I could be doing a play somewhere.

 

Jokes aside, I'm just starting work next year while doing my post-grad.


Edited by Suntory - 12/10/15 at 8:00pm
post #4 of 15
if i could run a 4 minute mile, is that still the fastest means of traveling from los angeles to new york?
post #5 of 15
You pose a different question in the subject title of this thread, than you do in your initial post to this thread.

Specifically, in the subject title, you ask whether the suit is of good quality. I would say, "not necessarily." Such a suit has proven durable. But there is more to quality than mere durability.

In your post, you ask such a suit is "reliable." I'd counter that it depends on how you define reliability. For example, if "reliable" means "will last for lots of wear," than sure, such a suit has proven itself reliable. (Basically, if "reliable" = "durable," the answer is yes.)

On the other hand, some people might equate reliability with appropriateness for a given purpose. In which case, lasting for lots of wear may have little to do with reliability.

I would add that many cheap articles of clothing can be quite durable. And many expensive and high quality articles of clothing can be somewhat fragile, at least in some ways. (Denim tends to be more durable than cashmere, for example.)

It's sort of like automobiles. A $19,000 Toyota Corolla may prove more durable than an $85,000 Jaguar. That doesn't mean the Toyota is necessarily of higher quality than the Jaguar. It doesn't necessarily mean it's a better choice than the Jaguar. It simply means that it's more durable. And while durability is nice, it is but one aspect of overall value and suitability.
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post

It's sort of like automobiles. A $19,000 Toyota Corolla may prove more durable than an $85,000 Jaguar. That doesn't mean the Toyota is necessarily of higher quality than the Jaguar. It doesn't necessarily mean it's a better choice than the Jaguar. It simply means that it's more durable. And while durability is nice, it is but one aspect of overall value and suitability.

 

I like your analogy. 

post #7 of 15
I think we must always wear quality. The fit is indisputable. Better to have in your closet a few heads but good. I am an artisan Neapolitan tailoring serving wonderful dresses in USA
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I think we must always wear quality. The fit is indisputable. Better to have in your closet a few heads but good. I am an artisan Neapolitan tailoring serving wonderful dresses in USA

 

Website?  Do you have good customer reviews? Will you offer us huge discounts? Do you ship to the UK, etc?

post #9 of 15
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I would add that many cheap articles of clothing can be quite durable. And many expensive and high quality articles of clothing can be somewhat fragile, at least in some ways. (Denim tends to be more durable than cashmere, for example.)

It's sort of like automobiles. A $19,000 Toyota Corolla may prove more durable than an $85,000 Jaguar. That doesn't mean the Toyota is necessarily of higher quality than the Jaguar. It doesn't necessarily mean it's a better choice than the Jaguar. It simply means that it's more durable. And while durability is nice, it is but one aspect of overall value and suitability.

Great example and analogy. 

post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by David Reeves View Post

Depends, how are things working out for you career wise?

I sat in a meeting today with a CEO of a large company.  His bonus (not his total income) was $7 million last year.  He wears JosABank or something like it, poorly tailored. we all like clothes here, but lets stop pretending it will actually negatively impact your lifestyle if you aren't well dressed by styfo standards.  most people dont know or care anymore

post #11 of 15
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His bonus (not his total income) was $7 million last year.  He wears JosABank or something like it, poorly tailored
Once a man reaches the point where he's a CEO earning tens of millions of dollars per year, he can attend a meeting in sweat pants, a stained t-shirt, and barefoot, and still be taken seriously by many of those present.

But for the 99.995% of men who have not achieved that level of professional achievement, wardrobe choice can still matter a lot.



Einstein could show up at a reception at the home of the University President, in fuzzy slippers, his hair a mess, holes in his sweater at the elbows, mumbling about kissing a girl while driving, and the most brilliant minds at Princeton would pay rapt attention to his every word. Because he was Albert Freakin' Einstein. Were some Assistant Physics Professor to have shown up looking and acting like that, he'd have been escorted out within a minute or two of having arrived, and he'd have been a former Assistant Professor by the next morning.
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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Once a man reaches the point where he's a CEO earning tens of millions of dollars per year, he can attend a meeting in sweat pants, a stained t-shirt, and barefoot, and still be taken seriously by many of those present.

But for the 99.995% of men who have not achieved that level of professional achievement, wardrobe choice can still matter a lot.



Einstein could show up at a reception at the home of the University President, in fuzzy slippers, his hair a mess, holes in his sweater at the elbows, mumbling about kissing a girl while driving, and the most brilliant minds at Princeton would pay rapt attention to his every word. Because he was Albert Freakin' Einstein. Were some Assistant Physics Professor to have shown up looking and acting like that, he'd have been escorted out within a minute or two of having arrived, and he'd have been a former Assistant Professor by the next morning.

 

Love your banter, damn those fluffies...

post #13 of 15
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Website?  Do you have good customer reviews? Will you offer us huge discounts? Do you ship to the UK, etc?

 

I like your style.

post #14 of 15

Actually though, he was wearing a business suit, like all the other men in the meeting.  his happened to be cheap, didnt fit well, and was badly accessorized.  His poor dress isnt a personal flamboyance. 

 

are you and david reeves both suggesting that in 2015 a man cant succeed in their career simply because their clothes aren't expensive?  

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by 12345Michael54321 View Post


Once a man reaches the point where he's a CEO earning tens of millions of dollars per year, he can attend a meeting in sweat pants, a stained t-shirt, and barefoot, and still be taken seriously by many of those present.

But for the 99.995% of men who have not achieved that level of professional achievement, wardrobe choice can still matter a lot.



Einstein could show up at a reception at the home of the University President, in fuzzy slippers, his hair a mess, holes in his sweater at the elbows, mumbling about kissing a girl while driving, and the most brilliant minds at Princeton would pay rapt attention to his every word. Because he was Albert Freakin' Einstein. Were some Assistant Physics Professor to have shown up looking and acting like that, he'd have been escorted out within a minute or two of having arrived, and he'd have been a former Assistant Professor by the next morning.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by colco View Post

are you and david reeves both suggesting that in 2015 a man cant succeed in their career simply because their clothes aren't expensive?
I wouldn't presume to speak for David Reeves.

What I'm saying, is that in 2015, a man's clothes can affect how he is perceived. And failure to dress in what others consider to be the "right" manner, can negatively impact one's career.

And that, yes, some extremely successful men needn't worry much about this, but they (the occasional Fortune 500 CEO or Nobel Laureate, for example) represent an extremely tiny percentage of people.

And no, the right clothes needn't be particularly expensive. Nor are expensive clothes necessarily the right ones. I've seen $5000 suits which were appalling. I've also seen men in $300 Jos. A. Bank suits who looked exactly right.
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