Originally Posted by ethanm
Salafi and Wahhabi are the same thing. Wahhabi is a derogatory term.
Not exactly, you should know better !
Wahhabi = Follower of the teachings of abd al-Wahhab, who in the 18th Century decided to he was the righteous one charged with halting decay in Muslim society by reviving a puritanical interpretation based on his understanding of the earliest generations of Muslims.
Salafis, on the other hand, can be Wahhabi, or they can follow the teachings of others. Many actually do not follow abd al-Wahhab, and revert to ibn Taymiyyah or his studnet ibn Qayyim, both of which are referenced heavily by abd al-Wahhab but of course through his lens. So you can have non-violent Salafis for example in N. Africa, other Gulf states that didn't rely on abd al-Wahhab's scholarship to justify their take over (as was the case with the al-Saud family trying to consolidate total power), etc.
It is not a stretch to claim that ibn Taymiyyah was actually one of the strongest proponents of secularism as in the separation of mosque and state, and the context for much of his writings is completely ignored.
In fact, every generation (say 50 years or so) the meaning of Salafism changes, and many of the current and strict "tests" for who is a salafi would not even be passable by the very people they claim to be emulating as most of the issues are identical to philosophical questions brought up but thinkers and reformists of the Christian faith (for example, the attributes of God -- are they literal or not).
Anyway this is a huge derailment that won't help the current issue being discussed here so we can move it elsewhere, but you were being a naughty generalist so I had to clarify.
And so Fuuma's facetious joke actually does
make sense in some way because it is consistent with this differentiation.