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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Maybe he was being lobbied by the local recruiter in MN

Best post of this very sad thread.
post #122 of 324
Cnn is reporting that France has started direct bombing in Syria. Hard to see how this will be different compared to the current situation.

It seems that this was, at least partially, another homegrown terrorism story. While the Isis issue needs to be cleaned up and a effective government has to be implemented back in these recently failed states the issue still is a small portion of people willing to kill for killing. How does this stop when you have, seems to me, state support from some middle eastern countries? It's hard to imagine this has spiraled so far out of control if everyone wanted the same end goal.

Blah blah I guess.
post #123 of 324
Is it too early to say "I hope both sides exercise restraint"?
post #124 of 324
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Originally Posted by taxgenius View Post

Is it too early to say "I hope both sides exercise restraint"?


hm... do terrorists honor the geneva convention?

post #125 of 324
As long as we're not involved I hope they fucking butcher the shit out of each other.
post #126 of 324
Reports that "experts" think the voice of the radio announcement of ISIS taking responsibility is....Canadian.
post #127 of 324
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post


So you're accusing Kerry and Obama of abusing grammatical norms?

 

They're definitely guilty of not learning how to pronounce ع if nothing else. 

 

We should just call ISIS hizb al-ba'ath al-jadiid. 

post #128 of 324
How about we just call them "Not our fucking problem"?
post #129 of 324

Clearly that is not the case. 

post #130 of 324
If they weren't our problem before we started bombing them, they are now.
post #131 of 324
Sorry, I meant "our" as in the USA. The Europeans can figure that shit out on their own.
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Hm, well there's this thing called NATO. Either way it's only a matter of time before they hit us. 

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post #134 of 324
It might not be exact same groul of individuals who did this but it's the same mindset as those who have done the other attacks. Can you kill them all, probably not but it can't hurt. Somehow the overall way these people are influenced needs to change. Economic lifting needs to happen and women need to be a major part of it all. Things which, again IMO, did not happen in either the gulf war or the Arab spring.

Really I think the women need to take over the area's political parties, it's fairly clear the men are useless.
post #135 of 324
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Originally Posted by A Canuker View Post

It might not be exact same groul of individuals who did this but it's the same mindset as those who have done the other attacks. Can you kill them all, probably not but it can't hurt. Somehow the overall way these people are influenced needs to change.

 

The Pentagon’s own Defense Science Board Task Force came to this conclusion in 2004 when Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asked it to evaluate the Bush administration’s "war on terror" methods:

“American efforts have not only failed [to separate the vast majority of nonviolent Muslims from the radical-militant Islamist-Jihadists]: they may also have achieved the opposite of what they intended.

American direct intervention in the Muslim World has paradoxically elevated the stature of and support for radical Islamists, while diminishing support for the United States to single-digits in some Arab societies.

Muslims do not ‘hate our freedom,’ but rather, they hate our policies. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the longstanding, even increasing support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan, and the Gulf states….

“[Since 9/11] American actions and the flow of events have elevated the authority of the Jihadi insurgents and tended to ratify their legitimacy among Muslims….”
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