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post #421 of 586
I had to supply the fabric since he does not have any cotton or linen fabrics in his shop. All my instructions and discussions are with Cornelio. I even had to give him a 2 pages of instructions and photos to ensure that all the details will be put in place. But I think some of these instructions were not relayed properly or completely to the trouser maker so my first batch of trousers had to undergo several revisions. I went to his shop for around 3 to 4 times a week to monitor the progress. In the end, the final output was good, not Ambrosi Napoli level of course, but good. You just have to be patient with him. Now, they just have to copy all the details for my next 8 trousers.

As for jackets and suits, his work is decent enough compared to other local tailors. But if you bring him a high end jacket, let's say RLPL or Partenopea, and you ask him to copy it, do not expect that he will be able to achieve the same cut and all the details. I have had several jackets/suits made by him but I rarely wear them anymore. I've switched to high end RTW, with alterations done by Cornelio.
post #422 of 586
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I had to supply the fabric since he does not have any cotton or linen fabrics in his shop. All my instructions and discussions are with Cornelio. I even had to give him a 2 pages of instructions and photos to ensure that all the details will be put in place. But I think some of these instructions were not relayed properly or completely to the trouser maker so my first batch of trousers had to undergo several revisions. I went to his shop for around 3 to 4 times a week to monitor the progress. In the end, the final output was good, not Ambrosi Napoli level of course, but good. You just have to be patient with him. Now, they just have to copy all the details for my next 8 trousers.

As for jackets and suits, his work is decent enough compared to other local tailors. But if you bring him a high end jacket, let's say RLPL or Partenopea, and you ask him to copy it, do not expect that he will be able to achieve the same cut and all the details. I have had several jackets/suits made by him but I rarely wear them anymore. I've switched to high end RTW, with alterations done by Cornelio.

 

I'm amazed you had the time and patience to work with Cornelio. I went through that phase as well and have almost given up on tailors here. Now I am buying suits and sport coats off-the-rack. Glad to see a fellow Carmina fan. Hope you can join our meetup on August 21.

post #423 of 586
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I'm amazed you had the time and patience to work with Cornelio. I went through that phase as well and have almost given up on tailors here. Now I am buying suits and sport coats off-the-rack. Glad to see a fellow Carmina fan. Hope you can join our meetup on August 21.

I still have patience for trousers. But for jackets and suits I have also given up on local tailors. It's also a good thing that Cornelio's shop is in Makati. I can drop by his shop before going to my office.

For shoes, after trying several brands, I have decided that my future purchases will be from Carmina and Vass. Hard to beat the quality they offer for the pricepoint.

Thanks for the invite Kevin. It's a holiday and I have Daddy duties but I'll see if I can drop by. If ever I do, I hope you won't mind me showing up in shorts and nike flyknits with a baby stroller.
post #424 of 586
BTW, Cornelio's still a better option for alternations than those alteration shops in the malls. I have trusted him with my RLPL, Borrelli, Isaia, Partenopea, etc. I'm not sure though if he will accept an alteration job from a new customer.
post #425 of 586
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I still have patience for trousers. But for jackets and suits I have also given up on local tailors. It's also a good thing that Cornelio's shop is in Makati. I can drop by his shop before going to my office.

For shoes, after trying several brands, I have decided that my future purchases will be from Carmina and Vass. Hard to beat the quality they offer for the pricepoint.

Thanks for the invite Kevin. It's a holiday and I have Daddy duties but I'll see if I can drop by. If ever I do, I hope you won't mind me showing up in shorts and nike flyknits with a baby stroller.

 

 

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BTW, Cornelio's still a better option for alternations than those alteration shops in the malls. I have trusted him with my RLPL, Borrelli, Isaia, Partenopea, etc. I'm not sure though if he will accept an alteration job from a new customer.

 

+1 on the value of Carmina. But I'm looking to explore English shoes next. I just haven't found the right one that appeals to my Italian aesthetic. Alfred Sargent maybe.

 

I don't mind if you show up in shorts and flyknits but I really would like to see one of your Borrelli, Isaia and Partenopea sport coats. But that's just me. :)

post #426 of 586
^ For english shoes, I have tried Grenson, Cheaney, and C&J handgrade and I really like C&J especially the 337 last (but I would prefer Carmina over C&J handgrades). Can't justify buying EG or G&G because there is Vass at a lower price point.
post #427 of 586
Handmade buttonholes by Cornelio:




The jacket is from Eidos Napoli (Isaia's other brand). I asked Cornelio to redo the buttonholes and to take in the waist a bit.


post #428 of 586

Maybe it's just the picture, but the jacket seems a bit short.

post #429 of 586
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Originally Posted by jasonmx3 View Post

Maybe it's just the picture, but the jacket seems a bit short.

Yeah I think its just the angle. But the jacket is defintely not short.
post #430 of 586
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Yeah I think its just the angle. But the jacket is defintely not short.

 

Or maybe I just prefer longish jackets/SCs (cross-post).

 

post #431 of 586
^ I actually prefer that length for suit jackets. For sports jackets I prefer them to be around 2 cm shorter or as long as the ass is covered. I also do not like short jackets with high buttoning point like those being sold in Zara or Massimo Dutti.

Here's another angle of the Eidos Napoli jacket:



I'll post photos of other jackets tweaked by Cornelio next week.

BTW Jason, your avatar is familiar. I think I saw it before in PhilMug.
post #432 of 586
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Originally Posted by aon View Post

^ I actually prefer that length for suit jackets. For sports jackets I prefer them to be around 2 cm shorter or as long as the ass is covered. I also do not like short jackets with high buttoning point like those being sold in Zara or Massimo Dutti.

Here's another angle of the Eidos Napoli jacket:



I'll post photos of other jackets tweaked by Cornelio next week.

BTW Jason, your avatar is familiar. I think I saw it before in PhilMug.


The jacket looks great on you.

 

Massimo Dutti's buttoning point is not as aggressive as Zara because it is also not as short. But it is higher because the jackets are generally shorter by an inch.

post #433 of 586
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Originally Posted by aon View Post

Handmade buttonholes by Cornelio:




The jacket is from Eidos Napoli (Isaia's other brand). I asked Cornelio to redo the buttonholes and to take in the waist a bit.



nice work! hope you can convince him to accept alterations from other people who aren't his clients or haven't had stuff made from him. I've tried numerous alterations/ tailors and they've all murdered my sleeves!
post #434 of 586
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Originally Posted by aon View Post

^ I actually prefer that length for suit jackets. For sports jackets I prefer them to be around 2 cm shorter or as long as the ass is covered. I also do not like short jackets with high buttoning point like those being sold in Zara or Massimo Dutti.

Here's another angle of the Eidos Napoli jacket:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 



I'll post photos of other jackets tweaked by Cornelio next week.

BTW Jason, your avatar is familiar. I think I saw it before in PhilMug.

 

You're right. It was just the angle of the photo. Although the jacket is indeed on the short(er) side, which makes it a bit more trendy I guess.

 

And yes, I used to be regular at Philmug. Not so much lately. Were you using the same handle there?

post #435 of 586
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nice work! hope you can convince him to accept alterations from other people who aren't his clients or haven't had stuff made from him. I've tried numerous alterations/ tailors and they've all murdered my sleeves!

 

I think the reason why most tailors would not do this (at least initially), is that they don't want to be made liable in case the alteration does not meet the customer's standards. The business is not just worth the risk (e.g., they are asked to pay for $1,000+ suits). Of course, once you've had a relationship with the tailor and they know what your expectations are, they might be more willing to accept your alterations requests.

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