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I'll be the du in Crocs and cargo shorts.
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Not sure if this is equivalent to a thread, but I'd like to ask, what's missing with philippine tailors? What would be that one (or two/three) thing that you'd like to improve?

 

Price?

Fit?

Quality?

 

Price for quality? Is this even possible if we want something really nice?

post #334 of 579

Goodmorning,

 

I'd like to ask your recommendations for tailors that accept alterations in the manila/sta mesa area? lost weight and most of my pants dont fit right anymore. I tried the tailors in the malls but they didnt do a proper job (like it was rushed).

 

This tailor will be for the long term, he will be my go to guy in case I need alterations or for custom fit clothes.

I'll be starting at a new job that doesn't neccessarily require good clothes, but I'd like to start dressing properly for my age (don't want to look like the highschool/college kid anymore) and I don't know where to start.

 

Thanks!

post #335 of 579
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Originally Posted by aon View Post

Here's my third fitting from a local tailor. Soft construction, draped chest, with an attempt at neapolitan shoulders:




Feel free to comment.

This Jacket doesn't look too bad. I think if you had the patience of working with them over several jackets it would start to look right. Get them to get rid of the Grinza out of the shoulders. It should look a little more subtle than that. Ask them if they can take the side panels in under the arm of the jacket and reduce the chest a little. At the moment the jacket looks blocky in this area. The draped chest needs to have canvas in it. Can you please PM me the contact details of the tailor that made it for you if you dont mind.
post #336 of 579

You can get suits taken in at Bergamo in Rustans, Makati. I've had a few done there. Not that cheap. But reliable.

post #337 of 579
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Originally Posted by Cesp View Post

Goodmorning,

I'd like to ask your recommendations for tailors that accept alterations in the manila/sta mesa area? lost weight and most of my pants dont fit right anymore. I tried the tailors in the malls but they didnt do a proper job (like it was rushed).

This tailor will be for the long term, he will be my go to guy in case I need alterations or for custom fit clothes.
I'll be starting at a new job that doesn't neccessarily require good clothes, but I'd like to start dressing properly for my age (don't want to look like the highschool/college kid anymore) and I don't know where to start.

Thanks!

Would also depend on how much you want them taken in. If it's too much in the waist then the back pockets would look to close to each other. If too much in the side then it might shorten your pocket space.
post #338 of 579

Most fabric stores here sell fabric for men's shirts but you will definitely find differences in quality as well as price. Fabric in Divisoria is much cheaper but usually the quality is also a lot worse! So it depends on your expectations and your budget! I recently bought a nice 100% cotton stripe in the new Glorietta (top floor I think) in a small fabric store called Projections. They said it was japanese cotton, but who really knows? I don't remember how much it was though. 

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Originally Posted by govner View Post

Not sure if this is equivalent to a thread, but I'd like to ask, what's missing with philippine tailors? What would be that one (or two/three) thing that you'd like to improve?

 

Price?

Fit?

Quality?

 

Price for quality? Is this even possible if we want something really nice?

 

I'm not really answering your question here, but I've been wanting to say this for a long time, so am just using your questions as an opportunity to do so!

 

In my opinion 50% of the problem with tailors in the Philippines lies with what they put into their garments. Very few fabrics are made in the Philippines so 100% of the fabric suitable for men’s wear is imported. Importing is a huge pain here and the market for higher quality bespoke men’s wear is not that big. This means that fabrics are only imported in small quantities ensuring a high mark-up up to start with. It sometimes takes literally years  (take a look at the dust collecting on the folded edges of some rolls of fabrics!) for someone to buy a certain fabric adding to the cost.

On top of this, the quality of interfacings (the stuff tailors put into collars, lapels, shoulder to give it more stiffness, body, or to stop it from stretching) whether it’s non-woven or canvas, fusible or sewn in, is horrible. Even what is available for women’s wear, which is a much bigger market is terrible. The collars on bespoke shirts and suits usually come out feeling much too stiff and rarely have the hand feel that even half-way decent ready to wear has. If someone started importing good quality interfacings suitable for men’s wear in quantities big enough to keep the price down, you would see the quality of bespoke tailoring in the Philippines go up immensely. That said, customer would have to be willing to pay the extra couple of hundred pesos that this would cost, as left to their own devices, many tailors would just use whatever is the cheapest!

Another factor is the bad habit many tailors (as well as women’s wear dressmakers ) have is to nearly complete a garment before letting the client fit it. Once you get to this stage of constructing a garment, there are many fit adjustments you just will not be able to do anymore. Ripping out seams, can and does damage fabrics especially densely woven shirt fabrics. It would be much easier to get good fit if you let the client try on the garment much earlier in the construction process.

Bigger tailors, like Bergamo for instance have front of the store staff fitting, whereas the cutters and sewers are in a workshop somewhere and never see their products on an actual body.  A good cutter/ pattern maker, needs to see the body he is making a pattern for to be able to do this properly. A set of measurements says a lot, but posture also has so much to do with the fit of a garment. My husband is currently on his second fitting for a suit at Bergamo’s and if I would have not been with him, the fitters would have let him walk out of there in a suit that fitted really badly from the back.  If he ever has a suit made again, I would rather take him to a small workshop where the fitter is also the pattern maker!

And let’s also blame the customers! After all, if there were enough customers willing to pay for and expecting decent fit and quality, the tailoring industry would grow to that level. At that moment, this is just not the case in the Philippines…. After all men here still have the option of wearing a Barong! Cheaper and definitely more comfortable in the tropical heat!

post #340 of 579
bergamo is shit. terrible, expensive shit. and its shit.
post #341 of 579
^ hey man what do you think of bergamo? biggrin.gif

And how's your project (that you PMed me about in Feb.) coming along?
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oh I think bergamo's okay. lol.....
post #343 of 579

I called Cornell's Custom Tailor.

 

He quoted me 13,000php for jacket and pant. Also, 1,500php for shirt. This isn't even discussing fabric or any custom requirements.

 

I find these prices way to high for the PI. You can get a really good suit in China for that price and most likely better quality.

 

Does anyone have a recommendation for places in Makati, or anywhere near Metro Manila? I've tried to back read but the prices seem out dated. Thanks.

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Yeah those prices are too high. Cornell charges me P650 for a shirt if I provide my own fabric. When I used their fabric (white "swiss" cotton) the shirt was P1000. Last time I asked about a sportcoat they said it would cost P8000, so I don't think a suit would cost more than P10k.

Do visit the shop and speak with the elder Cornell if you can.

As far as other tailors go, MrUnicorn recommends Abdul Dimaporo. Kevin recommends Secret Armory. I have no experience with either but check them out, they are both in Metro Manila.
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Originally Posted by bbaquiran View Post

Yeah those prices are too high. Cornell charges me P650 for a shirt if I provide my own fabric. When I used their fabric (white "swiss" cotton) the shirt was P1000. Last time I asked about a sportcoat they said it would cost P8000, so I don't think a suit would cost more than P10k.

Do visit the shop and speak with the elder Cornell if you can.

As far as other tailors go, MrUnicorn recommends Abdul Dimaporo. Kevin recommends Secret Armory. I have no experience with either but check them out, they are both in Metro Manila.

I'm not sure why the person I talked to quoted me that price. Maybe because I'm American and spoke to him in English. But still doesn't make sense. When I'll be in Manila and looking for the price quote everyone else gets.

 

Well my question now would be how much would the price range be if I'm looking for a custom black suit, with a white shirt. What would be the price range that is fair for Manila?

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