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post #1 of 11
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Hello-
I am new to the forum and just wanted to start out by saying hello to everyone. I am glad that i have found a place where i can get some solid advice on menswear topics. So here's the story:

A few weeks back I went to my local Allen Edmonds shop and, after trying on a pair of the First Avenue and Dalton boots, finally decided to pull the trigger on a new pair of First Ave boots. I had my foot measured by one of their salesman and settled on a size 9D (I usually range between an 8.5 - 9D in dress shoes / boots). They fit great (especially since i have a narrow foot and its hard to find boots that fit well), there is no heel slippage, and they're not too wide in the toe. However, I have realized they are a little long. This is my first pair of actual dress boots so I am not too sure what to expect.

My question is essentially two-fold at this point and some advice is greatly appreciated:

1. Does anyone have experience with this boot? If so, has anyone else noticed they run a little on the long side?

2. Would going to a different size width reduce the overall length of the boot? I can honestly say that if i went to an 8.5 D the boots would be too tight because they fit snug already in the sides and the heel.

I tried searching the forum for general information but was hoping someone could point me in the right direction as this question may have been asked before. I am relatively new to the world of shoe buying and quality > quantity. I do understand, however, the point of saving to buy a quality pair of shoes / boots that are made of higher quality materials and can be re-crafted. I am also early in my career and find that Allen Edmonds is the perfect balance between quality/price for the time being. 

 

Thanks for listening to a rather long, drawn out post. 

post #2 of 11
Id say either the shoe fits or it doesnt. The last will be different than you are used to and the fit will probably be different than the dalton. Maybe try a smaller size/narrower shoe?
post #3 of 11
Sounds like you know they are long. Don't keep them. I just tried sizing half a size up for their loafers which were supposed to run small, but the heel slips a little. Wish I had gone a half size down, but I bought these used so I'll make do. But you should exchange. There are a lot of different sizing options and lasts, so get it right from the beginning. Take them back.
post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post

Id say either the shoe fits or it doesnt. The last will be different than you are used to and the fit will probably be different than the dalton. Maybe try a smaller size/narrower shoe?

 

The fit is definitely different than the Dalton - I tried on both the Dalton and the First Ave. I think i just need to go down a 1/2 size and up a size in width. The 9D felt good in the store but walking around it feels like there is just too much room in the front. Just curious if anyone had a pair of first ave boots / similar experience. 

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Originally Posted by angelescrest View Post

Sounds like you know they are long. Don't keep them. I just tried sizing half a size up for their loafers which were supposed to run small, but the heel slips a little. Wish I had gone a half size down, but I bought these used so I'll make do. But you should exchange. There are a lot of different sizing options and lasts, so get it right from the beginning. Take them back.

 

I hear you on that one...they feel great its just that little bit of extra room in the toe and the fact that when i lace them up the uppers almost cross over one another that makes my second guess...i think i will try an 8.5E vs. 9D and see how it goes.

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Originally Posted by concrtejngle View Post
 

 

I hear you on that one...they feel great its just that little bit of extra room in the toe and the fact that when i lace them up the uppers almost cross over one another that makes my second guess...i think i will try an 8.5E vs. 9D and see how it goes.

So there's no gap in the lacing at all? Wow, so it's not just length that's an issue.  If these are your first pair of higher end shoes, then perhaps the sizing isn't just slightly off but significantly.  The fitting sounds suspect.

 

I spent 2 hours in the AE store to get my fitting right, and even then I sometimes wonder--but I have always had a tough time finding the right fit for my shoes.  I didn't just go by the associate's recommendation, I tried on various sizes and spent a good 5 minutes walking around in that particular shoe in the store.  Also, use a thin pair of typical dress socks you wear.  Anyhow, sounds like the sizing is way off.  

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Originally Posted by angelescrest View Post
 

So there's no gap in the lacing at all? Wow, so it's not just length that's an issue.  If these are your first pair of higher end shoes, then perhaps the sizing isn't just slightly off but significantly.  The fitting sounds suspect.

 

I spent 2 hours in the AE store to get my fitting right, and even then I sometimes wonder--but I have always had a tough time finding the right fit for my shoes.  I didn't just go by the associate's recommendation, I tried on various sizes and spent a good 5 minutes walking around in that particular shoe in the store.  Also, use a thin pair of typical dress socks you wear.  Anyhow, sounds like the sizing is way off.  

 

Not my first pair of higher end shoes but definitely my first pair of higher end boots...The fit is definitely off for sure. I tried on the boots in store with a typical pair of dress socks - i just made a bad judgment call in terms of fit. I called the store and they agreed to order me both an 8.5D and an 8.5E to try on in store and see which one fits better. If that doesn't work i can try another size, or maybe the First Ave Boot just won't fit me. In that case I'm not sure what i will do but hopefully it will be resolved before then.

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Yeah, boots (especially as high as those are) can be finicky.  I have a major injury to my right ankle (too many years of competitive volleyball) and it's much more swollen with scar tissue than my left.  Ironically my left foot is slightly shorter (this is pretty common) than my right so it makes finding shoes all the more fun.  You're probably right, those pair of boots might not be for you!  Ever try Chelsea boots?  My fav kicks...and not too tall, and with the elastic, easy to find a fit.

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Originally Posted by angelescrest View Post
 

Yeah, boots (especially as high as those are) can be finicky.  I have a major injury to my right ankle (too many years of competitive volleyball) and it's much more swollen with scar tissue than my left.  Ironically my left foot is slightly shorter (this is pretty common) than my right so it makes finding shoes all the more fun.  You're probably right, those pair of boots might not be for you!  Ever try Chelsea boots?  My fav kicks...and not too tall, and with the elastic, easy to find a fit.

 

The main reason i go for boots that tall is due to ankle support. Prior to working in an office environment i spent a good amount of time working for my step-father in the heavy diesel repair industry where I always wore boots that came up high over the ankles. I tend to shy away from shorter boots but will still buy them if the fit is good and i like them. I may have to look into Chelsea boots as i do not own a pair yet but like the sleekness of them.

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Yeah if you're used to that for ankle support, the shorter boots (chukkas, chelseas, etc) won't give you any ankle support whatsoever.  It's more about the comfort factor of having some leather wrapped softly around your ankles which I do enjoy.  I've never purchased a Dalton or any lace-up high ankle boot for that matter yet.

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Originally Posted by angelescrest View Post
 

Yeah if you're used to that for ankle support, the shorter boots (chukkas, chelseas, etc) won't give you any ankle support whatsoever.  It's more about the comfort factor of having some leather wrapped softly around your ankles which I do enjoy.  I've never purchased a Dalton or any lace-up high ankle boot for that matter yet.

 

I accidentally posted this thread twice so I apologize but here is a picture that i attached in the previous thread indicating the poor fit and hence my reason for needing to size down. Sorry for not posting this earlier i forgot.

 

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