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Wanted - designer jeans made in Italy

post #1 of 19
12/9/07 at 9:59pm
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Required : Any make of designer mens jeans in wiast size 34 inches and leg length 34 inches.
MUST BE MADE IN ITALY.
Please either PM me or tag onto this thread.
Mucho Gracias.
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post #2 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:01pm
Japan and the good ol' US of A make outstanding denim, too... better (with Japan, anyway) in most cases than what's made in Italy. Dior, for example, had the best jeans they made when they were produced in Japan; the Italian ones are definitely lower quality. Same with Jil Sander. Same with a whole bunch of designers. As well, most of the big name Italian designers outsource their denim all over the place... Turkey, Romania, China, etc. Why the worry about made in Italy? Italians have their cheap-o brands, too.
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post #3 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:05pm
MII Diors?
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post #4 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
Japan and the good ol' US of A make outstanding denim, too... better (with Japan, anyway) in most cases than what's made in Italy. Why the worry about made in Italy? Italians have their cheap-o brands, too.

It's just that here in England,we have an influx of designer clothes that are italian (Versace,Armani,Sportswear Company etc.) where the labels have started producing in low cost countries for cheapness and the pieces made are pure crap IMO.You get AJ that are made in Hong Kong and the quality is well inferior to an italian produced version.
I was requiring any product as long as it's italian made.Even american companies such as Hollywood Trading Company fall into this.(I have a pair of HTFC jeans MII and they are truly awesome).
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post #5 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:08pm
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It's just that here in England,we have an influx of designer clothes that are italian (Versace,Armani,Sportswear Company etc.) where the labels have started producing in low cost countries for cheapness and the pieces made are pure crap IMO.You get AJ that are made in Hong Kong and the quality is well inferior to an italian produced version. I was requiring any product as long as it's italian made.Even american companies such as Hollywood Trading Company fall into this.(I have a pair of HTFC jeans MII and they are truly awesome).
You need to learn what makes a good pair of jeans as opposed to simply where it is made. Look at Japanese denim or some American denim and see just how it compares. Italy has some fine denim, too, but it's not the be-all and end-all. Basically, you might also want to look for jeans made by companies whose primary purpose is to make jeans. Regardless of whether it is made in Italy or not, most of the designers use pretty low quality denim and mark it up to the price of premium thanks to "branding." Again, older Dior and 2005 Jil Sander were made in Japan and were far superior to any of their Italian made stuff. They were also more expensive.
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post #6 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:08pm
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MII Diors?

Diors as in Christian Dior ?
Didn't realise they produced jeans ! My wardrobe only stretches to the most basic of labels !
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post #7 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:11pm
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Diors as in Christian Dior ? Didn't realise they produced jeans ! My wardrobe only stretches to the most basic of labels !
Exactly. If you do your research first, you'll save yourself a lot of $$$ and get a wardrobe of items that will be worth your time and effort. Just buying "made in Italy" doesn't really mean ANYTHING. Check out the streetwear and denim forum around here; there are TONS of discussions about really excellent jeans that will be much more satisfactory to you than a made in Italy jean that has a huge designer logo on the ass.
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post #8 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:12pm
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You need to learn what makes a good pair of jeans as opposed to simply where it is made. Look at Japanese denim or some American denim and see just how it compares. Italy has some fine denim, too, but it's not the be-all and end-all.

I agree.Back in the late 80s I used to buy 501s that were produced in the States.Then I moved onto Timberland (also produced in USA) then Armani.
I remember how I felt when I found out that Levis started producing batches of jeans away from America,and believe me,I dare not write how I felt on here !
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post #9 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:13pm
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
Exactly. If you do your research first, you'll save yourself a lot of $$$ and get a wardrobe of items that will be worth your time and effort. Just buying "made in Italy" doesn't really mean ANYTHING. Check out the streetwear and denim forum around here; there are TONS of discussions about really excellent jeans that will be much more satisfactory to you than a made in Italy jean that has a huge designer logo on the ass.

Okay buddy,can you just list a few labels that you think I should be looking at,please ?
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post #10 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:17pm
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Okay buddy,can you just list a few labels that you think I should be looking at,please ?

Pure Blue Japan, Iron Heart, 45rpm, Stronghold, Eternal, Warehouse, Oni, Chimala, Flat Head, Imperial, and on and on. Maybe Burgus Plus, Japan Blue, I dunno, lots of options.
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post #11 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:50pm
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Pure Blue Japan, Iron Heart, 45rpm, Stronghold, Eternal, Warehouse, Oni, Chimala, Flat Head, Imperial, and on and on. Maybe Burgus Plus, Japan Blue, I dunno, lots of options.

Thanks mate,but I have to admit to never hearing about ANY of these brands on this side of the Pond !
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post #12 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:54pm
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Thanks mate,but I have to admit to never hearing about ANY of these brands on this side of the Pond !

I know Iron Heart is available in London. Not sure on the rest.
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post #13 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:56pm
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I know Iron Heart is available in London. Not sure on the rest.

Cheers,but I also have to ask you what is your take on the so called italian super brands ? (Armani,Versace,Prada etc.)
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post #14 of 19
12/9/07 at 10:59pm
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Cheers,but I also have to ask you what is your take on the so called italian super brands ? (Armani,Versace,Prada etc.)

Their denim is complete shit. Since we're talking about jeans, I'll leave it at that. They're poorly made, thin denim, occasionally pre-distressed in half-hearted ways, though fortunately just boring. The denim and construction are almost embarassing, though sometimes the cuts can be very nice.
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post #15 of 19
12/9/07 at 11:01pm
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Cheers,but I also have to ask you what is your take on the so called italian super brands ? (Armani,Versace,Prada etc.)

Nothing compared to Japanese brands. I own Dolce and Gabbana, Prada, etc. And I also own higher end Japanese stuff, which is much better than designer denim.

Even Dior denim, which I also own, and is liked by denim enthusiasts still doesn't have the quality of Japanese denim.
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