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By the way: Is there some consistent difference between lasts designated with three digits and lasts with two?
One needs a higher doctorate in EG lastology to anwer that question. I haven't come that far, but I'm working on it.
I don't think that there's that much system to the last numbers. Most of the current-generation lasts are 3 digits (808, 888, 202, 606), while most of the two-digit lasts are previous-generation (32, 33, 88, 61, 64). Of course, 89 and 82 are exceptions to the rule.
post #32 of 43
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Although it is true that this is the only way to get the 707 last, with its recreation of the famous "Peal Toe."
Here's what Tony wrote to me about the 707 (with some comments about the 404 thrown in because I asked him about it, too):
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There is quite a lot of difference between the 404,707 and even the original peals last. First, obviously there was the peal last which was really quite short and quite banana like and in my opinion not all that attractive compared to the Flusser last. I am not sure how the Peal last fit because it was before my time, but it looks like it would not fit the modern day foot very good (believe it or not the average foot size has gone up two sizes over the last 30 years)... Flusser developed his own last which is much longer in the toebox than most regular lasts, and to be honest is a bit longer than it should be for practical reasons, But the extra length with the peal toe gave the last the elegance that was missing in the 404 and the peal last, It's still not that great fitting last but I think it is certainly the best version of that last that has been developed.
I wonder if EG would make up a special order on the 707 or if they have an agreement with Flusser only to do so through Flusser's shop.
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Manton, I was told they would take an order on the 707. Will
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I am sorry to resuscitate a dead topic. However, I am hoping that some of my fellow shoe (not "shoo") enthusiasts, as well as Tony Gaziano, could help me out with a question regarding some of the new Green lasts. Does anyone know how the 707 compares with the 82 and the 909? I had never heard of the 909 until I saw this page, translated for gaijin. http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfi....1013%2f It looks like a long last with a pointy rounded toe. Does anyone know whether any of these fit like the 888? I'd like to find a last like the non-square-toed Cleverley shoes: longish, shapely, rounded but not dull, pointed but not sharp. Thank you in advance.
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(Kaga @ 12 Nov. 2004, 2:18) I'd like to find a last like the non-square-toed Cleverley shoes: longish, shapely, rounded but not dull, pointed but not sharp.
That sounds like the 707.  Here are some pics, from Flusser's homepage: http://www.alanflussercustom.com/customshoes.html
Ah yes, but Manto-san, have you looked at the pictures of the 909? It appears very similar and I'd be honored if you supplied your honorable evaluation thereof.
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Does anyone know how the 707 compares with the 82 and the 909? I had never heard of the 909 until I saw this page, translated for gaijin.
The chart on p. 53 of Men's Ex's The World of High End Shoes, Vol. 2 seems to indicate that 707 and 909 are cousins. I say seems because I can't read the Japanese text. In e-mail exchanges that I've had with Tony Gaziano, he's written that the fit of the 82 is most comparable to the fit of the 606 or 888. The 707 is extremely long and not particularly similar in fit to any of EG's other lasts. I've only ever seen the 909 used for loafers. I suppose that it would be possible for EG to make a lace-up on that last, but they tend not to mix their loafer lasts with their lace-up lasts. I've never worn a 909 shoe, so I can't comment on its fit. I don't think that Tony has ever posted here. He has posted on the Ask Andy forum, and he has always been very willing to answer e-mail asking about subjects like these.
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Thanks. Do you know if the Attlee (ie like the shoe sold by Flusser) is considered a loafer and would take a loafer last? It seems like a hybrid loafer/laceup. So would my 888 size be identical to my 606 size? My impression was that the 888 was quite long (and wideish) as well. Thanks again.
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