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Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post

Hmmmm. .
My picks if in your shoes?
As said, 2nd gen MR2. Turbo, or n/a. Becuse these are candidates for some very cool swaps and mods. But are fun from the moment you first see it. Can build a super quick parts bin special from one. And just a little more focused and legit than what others are starting on.
2nd gen Because it has a hard top. 3rd gens are exclusively convertibles. (Sorry @horndog)

Personally, I wouldn't even consider a Miata. Running the stock engine (weak), and also convertible. (Chassis rigidity). There is a super rare hardtop varient here. But no.

 

I'm not sure that, in these cases, the rigidity is a particularly huge issue.  Both cars were designed ground-up to be convertibles, so a lot of the stiffness factor is taken into account in the design stages.  Unlike a car like the rx-7 which was originally a hardtop and redesigned as a convertible, in which case I totally agree.  But the NB Miata at least is supposed to be pretty stiff, and if it's not stiff enough here are tons of easy (and cheap-ish) parts out there to fix it.  At the end of the day, it'll be about as stiff as any other early late 80s/early 90s sports cars.

I agree that the engine is anemic, but they love turbos and if you don't fear a swap, there's kits for damn near anything.  

The 3rd gen MR2 is really hampered by its engine, so a swap would be a good priority.

I'm not a huge proponent of either of the cars per se, but I wouldn't dismiss them as quickly as you have.  

 

I've got updates on my Z forthcoming, but life keeps getting in the way.  I have to do the brakes on one corner and reinstall the interior, and she'll be road-worthy again!  Pictures as soon as I get that done.  Probably a week or so out.

post #362 of 546

To mirror the earlier post on the CWD thread.

I found two other things of interest:

 

01 Saab 9-3 convertible for 2100: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5616927311.html

 

03 mustang for 2k: http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/5650121033.html

post #363 of 546
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Dat Prelude.
A little riced, but not beyond redemption. -some decent affordable jdm rims. With good tires. You got a workable base to start from. Owner seems to jave really tried to care for it. Having done a compression test, and replacing the stuff that wears over time.
You might be up for 1/ 1.5k later for wheel arch rot. But still i'd kop it all day, all week.

The Bimmers look good. And very user friendly for learning to wrench on. Just get the best cared for one you can. Grab a coupe for a tuner car.

@sleeves, what you said about them being designed from day zero as a convertible is spot on. Not sure what my beef with them is. There are just better options. The answer is not always Miata. smile.gif

You know what i mean. Why start with a car that has serious flaws ? Like the engine, or needing chassis bracing? Why bother?
That's why imho, its a hardtop manual with a good engine or nothing.
Edited by Thrift Vader - 6/23/16 at 6:05pm
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rtc: you keep bringing up BMWs, but I keep thinking of your budget. I love BMWs, but I'd caution people about them because of the high costs of repairs.

Curious about something, and apologies if you mentioned this somewhere and I missed it, but why are you willing to buy a car just to learn a manual trans and then sell it? If you want to drive a manual trans car, sell your Subie and buy a DD with a manual trans. You'll learn quickly. You won't have a choice! lol! You'll have more cash to spend that way, and will be able to buy a newer car with potentially cheaper repair costs.

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rtc: you keep bringing up BMWs, but I keep thinking of your budget. I love BMWs, but I'd caution people about them because of the high costs of repairs.


Curious about something, and apologies if you mentioned this somewhere and I missed it, but why are you willing to buy a car just to learn a manual trans and then sell it? If you want to drive a manual trans car, sell your Subie and buy a DD with a manual trans. You'll learn quickly. You won't have a choice! lol! You'll have more cash to spend that way, and will be able to buy a newer car with potentially cheaper repair costs.

I was just pointing out the bmws in the area that thrift Vader had said were decent. I don't care much about the brand for this purpose.

Regarding the subie, I think I have too much in it at this point to dump it. I might put out some feelers closer to the fall to see if anyone bites, but I'd feel kind of dumb to unload this car cheap after paying to make it reliable. I'd likely lose atleast 3k of what i put in.
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The e36 bimmers are fast becoming the darling of the tuner crowd. Especially with drifters. Used parts are cheap. With plenty of support out of europe. It's like a German toyota. That's the only reason i brought them up. While some might not be aware of the level of support they have. It is there.
post #367 of 546
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The e36 bimmers are fast becoming the darling of the tuner crowd. Especially with drifters. Used parts are cheap. With plenty of support out of europe. It's like a German toyota. That's the only reason i brought them up. While some might not be aware of the level of support they have. It is there.

BMWs have a big following in North America too, even in the Chump Car and 24 Hours of LeMons series. lol! Some local autocross guys are using a BMW in these events. However, they great with turning wrenches and if they had to pay a shop to fix things, it would cost a lot of money. I suppose that rule would apply to most cars. It's just that BMW and other makes with all those electronics bits have larger repair bills. More things to go wrong. 

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Yeah, I'd probably be more worried about electrical gremlins than things breaking.
post #369 of 546
Yeah the E30s with the larger E36 engine owns Chump Car IIRC. Even with a low budget however, I would not buy any BMW. Stay jap or domestic.
post #370 of 546
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@horndog. What do you think of the Prelude. Compared to other affordable Jap cars?


@sleeves. Deetz on the Z?
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I dig em... they're underappreciated because they're not quite a sports car; more of a sporty commuter and bigger Integra. They look great.
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It just seems like way too much money for a 98 with 187k miles on it. 

post #373 of 546
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rtc: you keep bringing up BMWs, but I keep thinking of your budget. I love BMWs, but I'd caution people about them because of the high costs of repairs.

Curious about something, and apologies if you mentioned this somewhere and I missed it, but why are you willing to buy a car just to learn a manual trans and then sell it? If you want to drive a manual trans car, sell your Subie and buy a DD with a manual trans. You'll learn quickly. You won't have a choice! lol! You'll have more cash to spend that way, and will be able to buy a newer car with potentially cheaper repair costs.

 

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I was just pointing out the bmws in the area that thrift Vader had said were decent. I don't care much about the brand for this purpose.

Regarding the subie, I think I have too much in it at this point to dump it. I might put out some feelers closer to the fall to see if anyone bites, but I'd feel kind of dumb to unload this car cheap after paying to make it reliable. I'd likely lose atleast 3k of what i put in.

 

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Originally Posted by Thrift Vader View Post

The e36 bimmers are fast becoming the darling of the tuner crowd. Especially with drifters. Used parts are cheap. With plenty of support out of europe. It's like a German toyota. That's the only reason i brought them up. While some might not be aware of the level of support they have. It is there.

 

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Yeah the E30s with the larger E36 engine owns Chump Car IIRC. Even with a low budget however, I would not buy any BMW. Stay jap or domestic.

 

 

BMWs get a bad rap because people try to buy the cheapest one that has been driven hard without maintenance and then buyers are surprised that the years of accumulated abuse has resulted in catastrophic failures or, at the least, the death by a thousand cuts because the car nickle and dimes them to death. 

 

Here is the rule to live by:  There is nothing more expensive than a cheap BMW (or Mercedes).   But, a BMW that has been taken care of will be a pleasure to drive and will last MUCH longer than a Toyota, Honda, Subaru, etc.  Of course, I am biased I have two BMWs.   I have two 7 series (e38) and the conventional wisdom is these cars are the most expensive to maintain and repair.  But, one of mine has 235,000 and is an amazing car.  The other has 130,000 is also a great driver, very reliable, and still looks great.  But, both of mine were owned by people who took care of them.  I don't mean they were babied or pampered.  They were maintained.  The biggest and most expensive repairs you will face on a BMW (in my experience) is the suspension and this will only be an issue about every 100,000 miles.  If you find one and it has over 100,000 miles and the suspension has not been addressed, it will be a problem.  But, if you buy one with 115,000 and the suspension has already been done, you now have a car you can drive for years without issues.  

 

The most reliable BMWs are the 5 series.  The 3 series tend to be rode hard by kids who don't maintain them.  The 7 series are the ultimate driving machine.  They are big. They are fast. They also have more luxury options and that means eventually little things will go wrong.   The 5 series is a great compromise.  They are still very sporty and nimble, but they probably have been driven by people who have to keep up their cars and need them to last.

 

I'm not saying Toyota, Honda, Subaru are not good cars.  But, a lot of the understanding about BMWs can be attributed to people who are unwilling to spend a few hundred dollars every year for maintenance in exchange for long lasting durability.  

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@Nobleprofessor the 325ic i posted was supposedly completely rebuilt. Engine and all.  https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/5643881252.html

 

Here's another one that popped up locally, but it's an 88: https://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5633836023.html

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@sleeves. Deetz on the Z?

ooooooh okay...:D

As a reminder, the day I got it:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I replaced the radiator, but didn't take pictures, as there's nothing to see.  It's angled up behind that long bumper.  

Taking apart the front suspension:

Replaced the springs and shocks, and all rubber bushings with poly.  Springs were swapped out for a mild drop.  

Got bored, polished the engine cover as a change of pace.

Back on the ground, about one inch lower.  should look good once the rear catches up.

Dropped rear suspension and subframe.  The big subframe bushings in these guys rot away and allow the whole suspension to clunk back and forth during braking/acceleration and every gear change.

Found this.  Might as well address now, before I go any further.

Pulled up the carpet and found this.  Neither very bad, but the whole interior came out so I didn't set it on fire while welding.  Got a shampoo and wash while it's out.  Didn't help much but it'll do for now.  Carpet kits are <$200, so that'll happen soon enough.

Thick, strong, ugly welds.  Not my best work, but I didn't bother dressing them down.  I want strength, as they'll be covered by carpet and seam sealer.  

 

And that's where I've stopped.  I actually have the suspension back in, with the exception of the sway bar.  I just need to finish putting the rear brakes back in, bleed, add sway bar, and plop her back on the ground.  I've got new tires waiting to go on, so once I get a free afternoon I should have her driving again.  As you can see, she hasn't moved since I drove her home.  

 

Then it's on to diagnosing the exhaust.  It's still smoking a greyish smoke, so it's hard to tell exactly what it is, but I honestly haven't even pulled the plugs yet to check.  I've been 100% suspension thus far.  I suspect a gasket job is in my future, but I try not to think about it yet.  

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