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post #766 of 1082
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Originally Posted by 41L35W View Post

Three of my more recent tie purchases simply do not dimple for me. ... Or some trick I am missing?

Dimples are rarely a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's in the technique. Use your pointer finger to create the dimple while tightening the tie.
post #767 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Veremund View Post

Dimples are rarely a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's in the technique. Use your pointer finger to create the dimple while tightening the tie.

Veremund,


I agree - completely.

Wider ties will be easier to create dimples with but even narrow ties can have nice dimples with some patience and practice.
post #768 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Sam Hober View Post


Veremund,


I agree - completely.

Wider ties will be easier to create dimples with but even narrow ties can have nice dimples with some patience and practice.
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Originally Posted by Veremund View Post

Dimples are rarely a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's in the technique. Use your pointer finger to create the dimple while tightening the tie.

Thank you both. I will keep trying. I will say that some of my ties dimple naturally without even trying, and others dimple with some effort. Knowing it should be possible in all ties, I'll try some more!
post #769 of 1082
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Originally Posted by 41L35W View Post


Thank you both. I will keep trying. I will say that some of my ties dimple naturally without even trying, and others dimple with some effort. Knowing it should be possible in all ties, I'll try some more!

41L35W,


Perhaps some of the ties are wider than others?

I wonder what the difference is in fabrics?
post #770 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Sam Hober View Post


41L35W,


Perhaps some of the ties are wider than others?

I wonder what the difference is in fabrics?

At least one of them is ?36? ounce silk. What seems common among them is what I characterize as stiffness. They just are not soft like other ties, if that makes sense. The lack of suppleness makes it harder to form the dimple.
post #771 of 1082
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Originally Posted by 41L35W View Post

At least one of them is ?36? ounce silk. What seems common among them is what I characterize as stiffness. They just are not soft like other ties, if that makes sense. The lack of suppleness makes it harder to form the dimple.

4135W,

"36oz" is an old term that used to refer to the weight of a length of silk around 10 yards long. Now it is a marketing term used by Adamley in Macclesfield England for one variety of their printed silks.

The silk is a twill weave and not heavy nor is it stiff - so there must be some other variable at play here such as perhaps a heavy and stiff interlining that is not what you are comfortable with?

Is your tie a printed twill silk?
post #772 of 1082

actually, I prefer a stiff fabric to make a nice dimple that will last all day long without having a too tight knot.

 

anyway, you can try this simple trick: pinch the front blade fabric both above and under the knot just before tightening the knot so that the dimple is held by the whole knot.

post #773 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Sam Hober View Post

4135W,

"36oz" is an old term that used to refer to the weight of a length of silk around 10 yards long. Now it is a marketing term used by Adamley in Macclesfield England for one variety of their printed silks.

The silk is a twill weave and not heavy nor is it stiff - so there must be some other variable at play here such as perhaps a heavy and stiff interlining that is not what you are comfortable with?

Is your tie a printed twill silk?

One is a Drake's. Here is the description:

Drake's hand printed fine silk twill foulards are the quintessential English ties, elegant and classic.
100% silk, spun & net
36 oz. handprinted silk foulard
Self-tipped (in the same cloth)
Handmade in London, England

The Kiton actually tied a decent knot today so maybe previously the problem was operator error:

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The third tie, an HN White, actually is a 50oz silk:

50oz silk twill, digitally printed in Macclesfield
Mid blue and off-white houndstooth
Medium weight pure wool interlining
Self tipped
9cm wide x 150cm long
Handmade in England

Thanks for lending your expertise to this!!
post #774 of 1082
Thank you!! I will try that next time.
post #775 of 1082
Cross post.
Some new Cappelli ties arrived today.


Very happy with all of them. They are all much lovelier than my poor picture shows. One can not have too many classics.

Wife was not that impressed. -“Three blue and two green? How adventurous… Can’t you buy some fun ties once in a while?”

I tried to explain that all of these are fun in their own way. She didn’t buy it.
post #776 of 1082
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post #777 of 1082
Dear @Sam Hober

At some point, in your Appreciation Thread there was a discussion, suggestion rather from a lot of gentlemen concerning your disposition versus the production of knit ties. Since it's been a while, is there any new input on the subject matter?

Cheers

Dimitris
post #778 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Big Bird View Post

 Can’t you buy some fun ties once in a while?”
 

Fun usually means obnoxious or 'cute'. :facepalm: 

post #779 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Bespoke DJP View Post

Dear @Sam Hober

At some point, in your Appreciation Thread there was a discussion, suggestion rather from a lot of gentlemen concerning your disposition versus the production of knit ties. Since it's been a while, is there any new input on the subject matter?

Cheers

Dimitris

Dimitris,


Interesting that you should mention knits as my daughter Samantha - Sam Hober - has been knitting scarves recently and is working on ideas for knitting ties.

We still want to create knit ties but we are not yet ready.

Normally knit ties are made like very long socks which limits the number of sizes that are practical.

We need to come up with a solution that allows us to quickly change widths and lengths etc..
post #780 of 1082
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Originally Posted by Sam Hober View Post


Dimitris,


Interesting that you should mention knits as my daughter Samantha - Sam Hober - has been knitting scarves recently and is working on ideas for knitting ties.

We still want to create knit ties but we are not yet ready.

Normally knit ties are made like very long socks which limits the number of sizes that are practical.

We need to come up with a solution that allows us to quickly change widths and lengths etc..

Dear David,

Thank you very much for your kind reply which is very informative. We have a saying stating that the apple will fall just at the bottom part of the apple tree; if you dont't come with a solution, Samantha will do it soon (I know she is still very young, but consider the apple tree...).

I truly hope that we will all receive news on knit ties from your part, and it will be my honor to host this information to a thread that I just started. There, I am waiting all knit-tie aficionados to participate.

Best

Dimitris

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