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post #1951 of 2146
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I find it unethical to impose

Regardless of what you feel about EU laws, you do not find it unethical that a company tries to enforce proprietary policies that are in practice illegal as they limit rights granted by said laws?
post #1952 of 2146
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Originally Posted by m1kko View Post


Regardless of what you feel about EU laws, you do not find it unethical that a company tries to enforce proprietary policies that are in practice illegal as they limit rights granted by said laws?

honestly it seems perfectly reasonable for a company to have such policies, if you're preordering or indeed custom ordering a piece in why should they provide you with a back-out option to their detriment?

post #1953 of 2146
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Originally Posted by m1kko View Post

Regardless of what you feel about EU laws, you do not find it unethical that a company tries to enforce proprietary policies that are in practice illegal as they limit rights granted by said laws?

jesus wept, just stop already
post #1954 of 2146
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Originally Posted by m1kko View Post


Regardless of what you feel about EU laws, you do not find it unethical that a company tries to enforce proprietary policies that are in practice illegal as they limit rights granted by said laws?

 

nothing unethical about it. proprietary policies are only enforced on specific aspects of the business to protect the company, not to screw the customer over.

 

where special orders are concerned, an order is placed specifically for you and it is your liability to fulfil payment when the product is delivered - simple as that. you could argue about the derbies since it was already on the store's order, but there's really no obligation for them to refund you payment on the jacket.

post #1955 of 2146
So you expect him to order a BIAS-PTC/35 dildo in size 56 just for you
Then you change your mind
And he's left with a potentially unsaleable item ?


If that was the case he would just stop offering special orders and that fucks everyone else
post #1956 of 2146
Thread Starter 
Could anyone give me sizing tips on the PH bread maker? I'm an S in coats and long blazers, an M in blazers and shirts

Thanks!!
post #1957 of 2146
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Originally Posted by skeen7908 View Post

So you expect him to order a BIAS-PTC/35 dildo in size 56 just for you
Then you change your mind
And he's left with a potentially unsaleable item ?


If that was the case he would just stop offering special orders and that fucks everyone else

 

the titanium dildos are better tbh

post #1958 of 2146
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

i don't really wear "traditional" trouser unless i wear a suit.

That's kinda strange when you consider how recant skinny/ tapered pants are in terms of fashion trends and acceptance. Regular fit trousers, at least here in the UK, are increasingly harder to come by. The whole twosizestoosmallmust conform trousers fad is indeed interesting. I guess people don't want to be called "grandad" or something
post #1959 of 2146
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Originally Posted by m1kko View Post

Regardless of what you feel about EU laws, you do not find it unethical that a company tries to enforce proprietary policies that are in practice illegal as they limit rights granted by said laws?

The EU laws were enacted to protect the consumer from unfair contract terms, specifically because it is assumed that there is a knowledge asymmetry between the vendor and the consumer.

 

Generally, the three tenets of EU consumer protection laws are to ensure

fair treatment; (of consumers)
products which meet acceptable standards;
a right of redress if something goes wrong.

 

Of course, how legislation actually plays out is not always congruent with the intent of the law.  

 

Certainly, looking at your specific case, I don't see how the contract terms were unfair, nor how you were 1) treated unfairly, 2) How the products do not meet acceptable standards, 3) Why you should have redress when nothing went wrong.

 

Therefore, no, I do not feel that you were treated unethically. 

post #1960 of 2146

Not really the thread for civic lessons, but generally:

1) Illegal acts are not necessarily unethical.

2) Legal acts are not necessarily ethical.

 

There is certainly a strong overlap between ethical and legal practices, but there is certainly not a 1:1 mirror.

 

In your specific case, I would say that you acted unethically, regardless of whether your actions are legal or not.

post #1961 of 2146
I said I'd never let it go for under 1K but I must be crazy. bounce2.gif

$900 plus shipping and fees takes my LUC long coat (retail $2500)

See my sig. HMU if interested. It's an amazing coat but I, like, need to buy some musical gear because that's kinda what I do. smile.gif
post #1962 of 2146
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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Could anyone give me sizing tips on the PH bread maker? I'm an S in coats and long blazers, an M in blazers and shirts

Thanks!!

Hmmm you'd probably more likely be a medium as I'm a small in most Harnden (including shirts) and my Breadmaker is the same size. I think we're similar sizes but you're maybe slightly broader than me, would sending measurements of mine help you at all?
post #1963 of 2146
Thread Starter 
@Guy Burgess Thank you for the information. The measurements I got for a size M (40cm shoulders, 52cm chest) seem to work perfectly for me, but from what I remember, the cut is rather generous.
post #1964 of 2146

Leon Emanuel Blanck Guidi horse leather distortion jacket with hemp lining.

 

 

 

 

post #1965 of 2146
How is the lining attached? Where'd you get it?
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